Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Notes in OP 24/08

Marty McFly

gosplan wrote: »

Chelsea will win the league this year

....... Unless

Jose has taken Terry a year too far.

Cahill seems the real deal but Terry is the lion of that defence. Problem is he's 34 in a few months.

He's early matched that great Drogba-Lampard-Terry spine with Costa-Fab-Terry but that question is there.

But early to be saying that early days in the league yet.

gosplan

Marty McFly wrote: »

But early to be saying that early days in the league yet.

I'm basing it more on Jose's past than anything else.

He's gotten exactly what he was missing, a beast of a CF and an all-rounder in AMF.

Apart from Madrid, I don't think he's ever not won a league with such a complete team.

Obviously there could be injuries and all that but as it stands right now, I find it hard to look beyond them.

Alfred Borden

Have to agree, Chelsea look formidable. Hopefully we do a bit of business in the coming days which puts us in with a shout.

gosplan

Raf32 wrote: »

Have to agree, Chelsea look formidable. Hopefully we do a bit of business in the coming days which puts us in with a shout.

Tbh I just don't think we are in with a shout.

We need one or two more perfect additions to bed in straight away, not sure they're out there right now.

It's cool though. Let Wenger build. What Chelsea and City have shown over the last decade is that they are all about ups and downs. We'll capitalise when they have a lull.

I also think Wenger is well in his way to building a team to match the invincibles. It just won't be ready for a year or two.

cson

01 Cech
03 Filipe Luis
05 Zouma
11 Drogba
12 Mikel
14 Schürrle
17 Salah

Look at Chelsea's bench there. No Van Ginkel and Remy either. Far stronger than us.

Player for player they're considerably better in a couple of positions; Matic and Costa being those positions.

cson

gosplan wrote: »

I also think Wenger is well in his way to building a team to match the invincibles. It just won't be ready for a year or two.

I'd agree somewhat. We're at least keeping a team together; Sagna aside anyone who's left over the last 2 seasons has been the clubs shout.

That being said; if the cash is there its frustrating that we're not going for the improvements we need.

AdamD

cson wrote: »

01 Cech
03 Filipe Luis
05 Zouma
11 Drogba
12 Mikel
14 Schürrle
17 Salah

Look at Chelsea's bench there. No Van Ginkel and Remy either. Far stronger than us.

Player for player they're considerably better in a couple of positions; Matic and Costa being those positions.

Erm? Not denying they're strong but that's a poor bench
06 Koscielny
07 Rosicky
12 Giroud
19 Cazorla
26 Martinez
28 Campbell
39 Bellerín

I'd rather ours from the equivalent game..

Marty McFly

AdamD wrote: »

Erm? Not denying they're strong but that's a poor bench
06 Koscielny
07 Rosicky
12 Giroud
19 Cazorla
26 Martinez
28 Campbell
39 Bellerín

I'd rather ours from the equivalent game..

This 100 times.

I think Chelsea are certainly contenders but to say they will win it far to early.

Chelsea have been favorites for the league the last two seasons as well hasn't worked for them yet.

Plus many in here are far to quick to write off our own chances.

gosplan

cson wrote: »

I'd agree somewhat. We're at least keeping a team together; Sagna aside anyone who's left over the last 2 seasons has been the clubs shout.

That being said; if the cash is there its frustrating that we're not going for the improvements we need.

Yeah tbh. That's the downside of Wenger. All that patience.

But look, Jose's simply a better manager when it comes to delivering titles and he has exactly what he needs with that squad. I'm not for a minute saying I want anyone other than Wenger at the helm but sometimes there are things you just can't match and it's unrealistic to get pissed off because Wenger's not doing what Jose does.

Whether he'll last more than the standard season or two is the question.

I think if we had say Henry and Vieira in their pomp and stuck them in, then we'd have the match of the invincibles team. But Wenger's looking for a Henry and Vieira, not Balotelli and Carvalho.

People want the quick fix but long term we need to be adding players like Ozil, Sanchez and Ramsey. Players that will never need replacing until they get too old.

I think that's the only route for us. And when it happens we WILL win a league and then all the jibes and nonsense from pundits will turn into almost sickening sycophantic praise of Wenger for taking such a long, patient but definite route towards creating one of the best teams in the world.

The he'll retire.

emergingstar

I think this is our year

tayto lover

emergingstar wrote: »

I think this is our year

Not unless we get a good DM in my opinion.
We need to block the gaps that the top teams exploited last season. We are also weak on our left flank defensively.

Crann na Beatha

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emergingstar

tayto lover wrote: »

Not unless we get a good DM in my opinion.
We need to block the gaps that the top teams exploited last season. We are also weak on our left flank defensively.

I think Sanchez and Walcott been fit were the missing pieces

tayto lover

emergingstar wrote: »

I think Sanchez and Walcott been fit were the missing pieces

Will certainly help but we also need a new player or two.

emergingstar

tayto lover wrote: »

Will certainly help but we also need a new player or two.

I wouldn't say no to new players and I would welcome them and I think we will get them

I'm just saying I think we're strong enough anyway

Alfred Borden

IMO as it stands we can come third. With a couple more additions who knows.

tayto lover

Ah to Hell with third or fourth.
I want to see us with a strong and ambitious panel of players who will challenge to WIN the title. Feck third or fourth.

Alfred Borden

tayto lover wrote: »

Ah to Hell with third or fourth.
I want to see us with a strong and ambitious panel of players who will challenge to WIN the title. Feck third or fourth.

I feel the same. Just saying with the current team thats all im expecting. Hopefully we get a few.

tayto lover

2 days and 2 hours left in the window.
Anyone really confident of signings? I'm not.

Alfred Borden

tayto lover wrote: »

2 days and 2 hours left in the window.
Anyone really confident of signings? I'm not.

No not me either. Wont do anything tomorrow with the match so cant see us getting a few in in less than one day. Hopefully we are wrong though!

emergingstar

tayto lover wrote: »

2 days and 2 hours left in the window.
Anyone really confident of signings? I'm not.

I think we will get 2

greendom

Raf32 wrote: »

No not me either. Wont do anything tomorrow with the match so cant see us getting a few in in less than one day. Hopefully we are wrong though!

Hopefully the ground work has already been done. Like with Ozil last year the deal was completed in the last hours of the window but the deal had been ongoing for much of the Summer

omega man

Walcott and Giroud will be like new signings when they return.

Seriously though, you just know wenger will wait til the last second and offer devalued bids on a couple of players to chance his arm. Don't think he'll be too bothered if he doesn't get anyone in.

Meanwhile we'll be an injury or 2 away from panic mode. I think the city game in September will tell us everything we need to know about our title winning aspirations.

Drexel

tayto lover wrote: »

2 days and 2 hours left in the window.
Anyone really confident of signings? I'm not.

Not really. I do think we will get some defensive cover in but I'd be worried about the quality.

kronsington

Sky Sports are now saying Rabiot is now off to Roma.. First Manolas and now Him, apparently. I don't like this. Two young players we could have done with.

AdamD

Can't do much if Manolas wants guaranteed starts

extra gravy

Rumours now that we've bid for Remy. So if us and Chelsea have both activated his clause, it's up to him...

Alfred Borden

David McIntyre @davidmcintyre76 · 15m
It seems Arsenal have come in for Remy, also activating release clause. #QPR

If true this makes me happy

HazDanz

Delighted we have a game tomorrow. Can focus on that rather than transfers.

omega man

extra gravy wrote: »

Rumours now that we've bid for Remy. So if us and Chelsea have both activated his clause, it's up to him...

With giroud out long term he's going to get game time with us I'd reckon. Major bench time at Chelsea.

Alfred Borden

We had all summer to buy him why wait until now if true? maybe the champions league clause didnt count until we were fully in?

omega man

Raf32 wrote: »

We had all summer to buy him why wait until now if true? maybe the champions league clause didnt count until we were fully in?

No, wenger saw Jose wanted him so probably felt he's actually not a half bad option for squad depth.

Mickeroo

Raf32 wrote: »

We had all summer to buy him why wait until now if true? maybe the champions league clause didnt count until we were fully in?

Wouldn't be buying him Giroud was fit I reckon.

Alfred Borden

I really like Remy, hopefully its true, would leave Chelsea in the lurch too with backup to Costa

Drexel

HazDanz wrote: »

Delighted we have a game tomorrow. Can focus on that rather than transfers.

What'll the line up be??

Szcz
Chambers mert kos monreal
Flamini
Ox whilshere Ramsey ozil
Sanchez

Prob the strongest team we could put out. Will some lads be rested??

extra gravy

From an article when Remy was at Nice:

"Arsenal are the club I want to join. I won't deny they are my priority," said Remy, who has been advised to link up with Wenger by Thierry Henry.

"Arsenal are a young, ambitious side and I love to watch them play.

"It is the ideal place for me. I spoke with Thierry about them and asked him lots of questions about life there.

"That is because I have been an Arsenal fan since I was little. I was not disappointed with what he told me."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/7518753/Loic-Remy-wants-Arsenal-move.html

It these comments are true, fairly sure if it's a choice between us and Chelsea, he'll choose us...

Drexel

extra gravy wrote: »

From an article when Remy was at Nice:

"Arsenal are the club I want to join. I won't deny they are my priority," said Remy, who has been advised to link up with Wenger by Thierry Henry.

"Arsenal are a young, ambitious side and I love to watch them play.

"It is the ideal place for me. I spoke with Thierry about them and asked him lots of questions about life there.

"That is because I have been an Arsenal fan since I was little. I was not disappointed with what he told me."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/7518753/Loic-Remy-wants-Arsenal-move.html

It these comments are true, fairly sure if it's a choice between us and Chelsea, he'll choose us...

Wenger is trying to **** Chelsea over like they did to us with ba!

wawaman

Allegedly we have met Remys release clause aswell

omega man

jonny666 wrote: »

What'll the line up be??

Szcz
Chambers mert kos monreal
Flamini
Ox whilshere Ramsey ozil
Sanchez

Prob the strongest team we could put out. Will some lads be rested??

Is Debuchy injuried? I'd play Santi over Ox based on the CL game.

cathalio11

extra gravy wrote: »

From an article when Remy was at Nice:

"Arsenal are the club I want to join. I won't deny they are my priority," said Remy, who has been advised to link up with Wenger by Thierry Henry.

"Arsenal are a young, ambitious side and I love to watch them play.

"It is the ideal place for me. I spoke with Thierry about them and asked him lots of questions about life there.

"That is because I have been an Arsenal fan since I was little. I was not disappointed with what he told me."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/7518753/Loic-Remy-wants-Arsenal-move.html

It these comments are true, fairly sure if it's a choice between us and Chelsea, he'll choose us...

Not if they fling an extra million or two per year at him.

extra gravy

I know he's not Cavani or Falcao or the world class striker we crave but he scored 14 goals playing for Newcastle last season. How many could he score with Ozil, Sanchez and Walcott behind him? Would be happy if we get him.

wawaman

extra gravy wrote: »

I know he's not Cavani or Falcao or the world class striker we crave but he scored 14 goals playing for Newcastle last season. How many could he score with Ozil, Sanchez and Walcott behind him? Would be happy if we get him.

If we got him and carvalho it would rate as a good days work

tayto lover

Any word of a DM.?

AdamD

extra gravy wrote: »

From an article when Remy was at Nice:

"Arsenal are the club I want to join. I won't deny they are my priority," said Remy, who has been advised to link up with Wenger by Thierry Henry.

"Arsenal are a young, ambitious side and I love to watch them play.

"It is the ideal place for me. I spoke with Thierry about them and asked him lots of questions about life there.

"That is because I have been an Arsenal fan since I was little. I was not disappointed with what he told me."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/7518753/Loic-Remy-wants-Arsenal-move.html

It these comments are true, fairly sure if it's a choice between us and Chelsea, he'll choose us...

It all means nothing once it comes to contract negotiations

emergingstar

I reckon his agent is trying to get a few extra grand out of Chelsea

cson

Team needs Chamberlain to start for balance and pace.

greendom

Raf32 wrote: »

We had all summer to buy him why wait until now if true? maybe the champions league clause didnt count until we were fully in?

Perhaps, maybe we weren't interested at all until the Giroud injury.

I hope he chooses Arsenal, will it come down to wages offered?

Drexel

omega man wrote: »

Is Debuchy injuried? I'd play Santi over Ox based on the CL game.

Suspended I think. From his red at everton

HazDanz

jonny666 wrote: »

Suspended I think. From his red at everton

He got the red in Champion's league Jonny so no ban for league.

kronsington

jonny666 wrote: »

Suspended I think. From his red at everton

He was sent off in the CL game midweek