Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Notes in OP 24/08

MonsterCookie

CaughtOffside seem certain there is an agreement with AC for Mario.

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2014/07/19/exclusive-arsenal-agree-15-8m-deal-to-sign-mario-balotelli-squad-number-assigned-and-personal-terms-reached/

Are they usually reliable?

Fuzzy_Dunlop

MonsterCookie wrote: »

Are they usually reliable?

Nope

Redzer7

Anyone going the Mercantile Saturday for the Red Bulls match?

Paj

Redzer7 wrote: »

Anyone going the Mercantile Saturday for the Red Bulls match?

Nope but heading in for the palace game

UnknownSpecies

Saw this on twitter:

Diaby wrote:

I tell myself that if I was in another club, I would have been thrown away a long time ago. I want to reply on the pitch.

Hope he can back the words up, would be great if he does a job for us.

dorgasm

dorgasm wrote: »

Saw this on twitter:



Hope he can back the words up, would be great if he does a job for us.

People hammer Diaby but his only crime is being so unfortunate with injury and willing to do whatever it took to return to full fitness. Super pro. Would love if he could manage 30+ appearances this season. Hell even 25 wouldn't be bad across all competitions.

gnfnrhead

AdamD wrote: »

Is Jenkinson a possible 4th CB?

Isn't that where he originally played before being moved to RB? Wenger might be thinking of Jenkinson as an option for both positions. Bit of a utility player.

Mr Blobby

Arsenal daily transfer news update!!

Nice Martin -

BREAKING: Arsenal have reached a total agreement with OGC Nice for the transfer of David Ospina.

Paul Breen-Turner -

There are unconfirmed reports on Spanish radio that Real Madrid Star Sami Khedira has agreed personal terms with @Arsenal #LaLiga

Los Blancos -

BREAKING: Sami Khedira will be confirmed as an Arsenal player tomorrow after at fee of £19.8m was agreed (Los Blancos)

For people wondering Los Blancos are the same people that have reported the James Rodriguez to Real Madrid.

gnfnrhead

£20m seems like a steal if true.

extra gravy

Tony Leen's Twitter (Irish Examiner):

"O Jogo blow Arsenal cover on moves for midfielder Carvalho. Things gonna have to move fast."

"Was told there was interest there. Was hoping radio silence meant things were still bubbling along. Now with O Jogo story, dunno.."

Hmmm...

tayto lover

Good man Arsene, wave d'auld cheque book at them all

Redzer7

Khedira to Arsenal of a Monday morning wouldn't be a bad start to the week :pac:

Mickeroo

Nice to see a few rumours,thought Khedira was dead in the water.

ronjo

tayto lover wrote: »

Good man Arsene, wave d'auld cheque book at them all

I really hope he writes an auto biography. It would be fascinating reading obviously and would be very interesting to know how much his hands were tied regarding transfer spending.

Marty McFly

I'd say it will be a case of one or the other with Carvalho or Khedira.

emergingstar

Marty McFly wrote: »

I'd say it will be a case of one or the other with Carvalho or Khedira.

Carvalho looks like he is going to be world class think I would rather go there

fearrua

ronjo wrote: »

I really hope he writes an auto biography. It would be fascinating reading obviously and would be very interesting to know how much his hands were tied regarding transfer spending.

He might even explain why he bought Park

Marty McFly

emergingstar wrote: »

Carvalho looks like he is going to be world class think I would rather go there

Don't know much about him but as I said before big fan of Khedira but once we buy someone to play DM whether it be Bender, Khedira, Carvalho I'll be happy.

extra gravy

emergingstar wrote: »

Carvalho looks like he is going to be world class think I would rather go there

Me too. Here's a good article on him http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/jun/05/world-cup-2014-portugal-william-carvalho He's a gooner too apparently

wonga77

fearrua wrote: »

He might even explain why he bought Park

Or what he saw in Bendtner for so long, theres a good few questions need answering :pac:

JPA

emergingstar wrote: »

Carvalho looks like he is going to be world class think I would rather go there

But Khedira IS world class.

tayto lover

extra gravy wrote: »

Me too. Here's a good article on him http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/jun/05/world-cup-2014-portugal-william-carvalho He's a gooner too apparently

He certainly looks the part if that report is accurate, "a cross between Yaya and Viera". Like that.

extra gravy

Meanwhile, Fabianski gets surrounded by Gooners in the US while on Swansea's pre-season tour...

emergingstar

JPA wrote: »

But Khedira IS world class.

I don't think he is been
Honest

Hyzepher

If true, I think the Carvalho thing is a two fingers at RM/Khedira - either sign or be left behind. Not often the real Arsenal business gets leaked.

jonneymendoza

Redzer7 wrote: »

Khedira to Arsenal of a Monday morning wouldn't be a bad start to the week :pac:

That plus asking potentially asking girl out i know tomorrow = great start to the week!

Mr Blobby

jonneymendoza wrote: »

That plus asking potentially asking girl out i know tomorrow = great start to the week!

Its gonna be a long weekend for you if there's 2 rejections tomorrow :pac:

extra gravy

Media in France are reporting that Ospina is a done deal with medical tomorrow. Would be great business and serious competition for Szcz.

king Henry 14

We are not signing khedira.
We are not signing khedira.
We are not signing khedira.
:):):)

gosplan

I'm suspicious.

If you look at what the Internet and social media has done to player profiles, really the biggest thing is that a huge amount of players are overrated.

I mean how many CMF/DMF's were really that great when Vieira was about?

Vieira, Keane, Makelele, Gatusso.

It's a fairly limited number that really made an impact that is memorable.

Now we've currently Alsono, Pogba, Vidal, Khedira, Yaya, Carv, Matuidi and so on and so forth.

I don't want to get into itty bitty arguments about specific players or positions.

I just find it hard to believe that Juve really have two midfielders THAT good, just like Roma had 2 strikers THAT good last year.

Thankfully I think Wenger is immune to this which will probably be a huge bonus in the next few years.

Kerrigooney

Is it true Khedira is looking for £150,000 per week? How much is your top earner at the moment getting and who is it? Ozil?

Skylinehead

gosplan wrote: »

I'm suspicious.

If you look at what the Internet and social media has done to player profiles, really the biggest thing is that a huge amount of players are overrated.

I mean how many CMF/DMF's were really that great when Vieira was about?

Vieira, Keane, Makelele, Gatusso.

Djorkaeff, Ballack, Scholes, Pirlo, Cambiasso, Davids, Seedorf. Definitely more than that too.

Now we've currently Alsono, Pogba, Vidal, Khedira, Yaya, Carv, Matuidi and so on and so forth.

I don't want to get into itty bitty arguments about specific players or positions.

I just find it hard to believe that Juve really have two midfielders THAT good, just like Roma had 2 strikers THAT good last year.

Thankfully I think Wenger is immune to this which will probably be a huge bonus in the next few years.

The 2 Juventus players definitely are that good. Vidal is probably the best CM in the world, and Pogba is just going to get better and better.

greendom

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Is it true Khedira is looking for £150,000 per week? How much is your top earner at the moment getting and who is it? Ozil?

Apparently both Ozil and Sanchez are on 130k per week. They're our top earners.

greendom

Skylinehead wrote: »

Djorkaeff, Ballack, Scholes, Pirlo, Cambiasso, Davids, Seedorf. Definitely more than that too.



The 2 Juventus players definitely are that good. Vidal is probably the best CM in the world, and Pogba is just going to get better and better.

Pogba does have spells of inconsistency though. He has amazing talent but it's not always in evidence. As was seen at the WC he needs to be better at controlling his emotions at tines too.

He is still very young too and has had an awful lot of responsibility placed on his shoulders.

jonneymendoza

Mr Blobby wrote: »

Its gonna be a long weekend for you if there's 2 rejections tomorrow :pac:

indeed

lol!!!!!!!!!!!!

Topbike77

Vieira, Keane, Gatusso.

I would love a strong DMF like one of these legends, someone thats a leader, a character, someone willing to put their body on the line for the team.

Theres no-one out there at the moment that I can think of that fits that profile do.

AdamD

The statistics really don't seem to back up the idea of Khedira being our DM, hes definitely more of a box to box. Of course it wouldn't be an issue if he and Ramsey developed a good understanding, his height would be useful too.

If Khedira and Bender are our 2 main targets for CM/DM then its pretty clear Wenger wants a double pivot and not a specialised DM.

Mr Blobby

Truth is Arsenal have never really played with a full DM. We've always had players that could carry the ball forward but also contribute defensively.

You go through all our previous DMs and most were very good on the ball and were given a lot of freedom to go forward.

Having a holding mid who would only sit back and defend isn't really a good idea imo. Getting Khedira gives us the best of both worlds really.

tayto lover

Mr Blobby wrote: »

Truth is Arsenal have never really played with a full DM. We've always had players that could carry the ball forward but also contribute defensively.

You go through all our previous DMs and most were very good on the ball and were given a lot of freedom to go forward.

Having a holding mid who would only sit back and defend isn't really a good idea imo. Getting Khedira gives us the best of both worlds really.

True that. But i think we need a dedicated DM. I'd have one who wouldn't cross the half-way line as he would steady the ship. I still get nightmares thinking about that Chelsea game last year in particular.

UnknownSpecies

Mr Blobby wrote: »

Truth is Arsenal have never really played with a full DM. We've always had players that could carry the ball forward but also contribute defensively.

You go through all our previous DMs and most were very good on the ball and were given a lot of freedom to go forward.

Having a holding mid who would only sit back and defend isn't really a good idea imo. Getting Khedira gives us the best of both worlds really.

I'd love to have someone in the Gilberto mould in the team. Certainly a DM but well able to contribute to an attack if needed. That's the kind of DM style that Wenger's seemed to prefer down the years.

Skylinehead

Mr Blobby wrote: »

Truth is Arsenal have never really played with a full DM. We've always had players that could carry the ball forward but also contribute defensively.

You go through all our previous DMs and most were very good on the ball and were given a lot of freedom to go forward.

Having a holding mid who would only sit back and defend isn't really a good idea imo. Getting Khedira gives us the best of both worlds really.

Gilberto was a DM really, but technically good too.

I still miss him

cson

fearrua wrote: »

He might even explain why he bought Park

There's a book of its own in that.

Re Khedira; if he's signed I'd expect something similar to the Vieira/Petit partnership between himself and Ramsey - one goes forward, the other stays back.

Fairly worried about the CB situation though. When you look at Liverpool for example with Agger, Skrtel, Sakho, Lovren and even Kolo Toure. Some serious depth there.

AdamD

cson wrote: »

There's a book of its own in that.

Re Khedira; if he's signed I'd expect something similar to the Vieira/Petit partnership between himself and Ramsey - one goes forward, the other stays back.

Fairly worried about the CB situation though. When you look at Liverpool for example with Agger, Skrtel, Sakho, Lovren and even Kolo Toure. Some serious depth there.

Serious depth but would you start any of them here? They had a horrid defensive record last season

jonneymendoza

AdamD wrote: »

Serious depth but would you start any of them here? They had a horrid defensive record last season

vermahlen is better then most of there cb's

wawaman

According to the latest Wenger musings we will not be signing another attacker, puts an end to the Ballotelli rumours. Also we will be getting a keeper in (Ospina done by all accounts), a CD (if Vermaelan goes) and a midfielder possibily

dibs101

Just stumbled across this....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2600714/Former-Arsenal-player-Lassana-Diarra-forced-deny-jihadst-fighting-Syria-rumours-sweep-social-media.html

Always wondered what happened to lasagne...

Ken Shamrock

STOP WITH THE DAILYMAIL!!!!!!

Fuzzy_Dunlop

Ornstein update

David Ornstein ‏@bbcsport_david 9s
Arsenal no longer pursuing Khedira but still in market for DMF, will sign GK & probably DF depending on Jenkinson/Vermaelen situations #AFC

Mickeroo

Well that's that then.

shano_88

Not surprised. I'm guessing wages were the stumbling block.