Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Notes in OP 24/08

Drexel

Fab was one of my favourite players but Özil is goina have a great season for us. Not too bothered.

Costa looks the business. In, admittedly what little I've seen of him he never really stood out I thought but he has been good tonight

Royale with Cheese

bad2dabone wrote: »

Cesc is a fine player and will most likely lead chelsea to the title. Him playing for that manager in that shirt turns my stomach.

However the manager made his decision regarding re signing him, and so be it. We can move on.

Aye, Wenger made his decision so I won't be moaning about it anymore. Just wanted to call it now so nobody can accuse me of being fickle at the end of the year.

The fact Ramsey is potentially a better player than both of them softens the blow somewhat.

bad2dabone

Looper007 wrote: »

Pretty much from his Fan club , I don't understand why we are so worried. We have top class talent in the midfield. Poor Wilshire is taking the blunt of the abuse.

Remember when pirlo was wilshere's age he was on loan at brescia. Wilshere is still a young player. Granted he needs games, but I've still got faith.

HazDanz

Confident Wilshere and Ozil will do their stuff this season. Ozil in particular is going to clean up when back imo.

We've a super offensive midfield. Wouldn't change it.

Looper007

bad2dabone wrote: »

Cesc is a fine player and will most likely lead chelsea to the title.

until the fat lady sings and if they/he do this agaisn't the top teams. Christ it's Burnely and everyone on here is already handing them the title.

Mickeroo

Cesc is world class, it's not even up for debate imo, we of all people should know how good he is. I think we made the right decision not to buy him back with our current squad considering how we've strengthened.

bad2dabone

I'm more jealous of matic to be honest

Alfred Borden

Matic and Costa compared to Arteta and Giroud is why they will be coming ahead of us. Pretty much even otherwise but the gap in quality between them two sets of players is massive.

extra gravy

Like Manolas, have seen him play a few times and he has impressed me every time. Reckon Wenger will play Chambers DM in a few cup games to see how he gets on.

Godge

Raf32 wrote: »

I dont rate Wilshere. Why not replace him with a far better player?

Our front six is Arteta, Ramsey, Ozil, Sanchez, Giroud, Walcott.

Wilshere will be fighting Cazorla, Ox, Podolski, Rosicky and Sanogo for a place on the bench. Why would you spend £32m to upgrade a substitute? Better spending the money on upgrading Arteta or Giroud if there are suitable players available.

Soups123

Raf32 wrote: »

Matic and Costa compared to Arteta and Giroud is why they will be coming ahead of us. Pretty much even otherwise but the gap in quality between them two sets of players is massive.

Matic over Arteta for sure

The other the jury is out on.

Mickeroo

bad2dabone wrote: »

I'm more jealous of matic to be honest

Yup, and Schuurle think he's going to have a savage season.

emergingstar

Raf32 wrote: »

Matic and Costa compared to Arteta and Giroud is why they will be coming ahead of us. Pretty much even otherwise but the gap in quality between them two sets of players is massive.

Unlimited funds compared to a budget is a bigger difference

Looper007

jonny666 wrote: »

Costa looks the business. In, admittedly what little I've seen of him he never really stood out I thought but he has been good tonight

agaisn't a team that can't spend any real money and most of their players haven't played in the premiership. Wait until he comes up agaisn't decent opposition. Once he comes up agaisn't top class teams he's wanting imo.

Soups123

What is the crack with Girouds fitness? Why is he not up to pace like the rest of them? Was he injured after the WC?

emergingstar

Mickeroo wrote: »

Yup, and Schuurle think he's going to have a savage season.

Where would he play in our team?

He wouldn't make it

Alfred Borden

Godge wrote: »

Our front six is Arteta, Ramsey, Ozil, Sanchez, Giroud, Walcott.

Wilshere will be fighting Cazorla, Ox, Podolski, Rosicky and Sanogo for a place on the bench. Why would you spend £32m to upgrade a substitute? Better spending the money on upgrading Arteta or Giroud if there are suitable players available.

We dont seem to be upgrading on Arteta this summer at least not with a specialist DM so could have slotted Cesc in there. Or as a #10 with Ozil out wide. The reason we rejected Cesc was because we had other areas to strenghten, im just gutted that we our starting team will consist of Arteta and Giroud.

Gringo180

Looper007 wrote: »

"It was his Home club, how could he turn them down". Wenger didn't take him back cause we have Ramsey who will get better. Get over it people, support the club and our players instead of ****ting on them.

He practically went AWOL to force the move through :rolleyes: And when it doesn't work out he expects us to take him back :pac: Delighted we got Sanchez in instead, just what we need against the big clubs in England and away ties for the latter stages of the Champs Lge, soaking up play and hitting teams on the counter with his and Walcotts pace with Ozil teeing them up, getting excited here even thinking about it :pac:

Looper007

Raf32 wrote: »

Matic and Costa compared to Arteta and Giroud is why they will be coming ahead of us. Pretty much even otherwise but the gap in quality between them two sets of players is massive.

Costa who was caught wanting at the end of the season and was totally lost at the world cup.

Matic I give but costa is hugely overrated and Giroud totally underrated by our own fans.

emergingstar

Raf32 wrote: »

We dont seem to be upgrading on Arteta this summer at least not with a specialist DM so could have slotted Cesc in there. Or as a #10 with Ozil out wide. The reason we rejected Cesc was because we had other areas to strenghten, im just gutted that we our starting team will consist of Arteta and Giroud.

Spend 30+ million on cesc, then stick him in at DM

RIGHT

salmocab

If Manolas is done then the Rabiot deal would make sense I think, if Wenger is happy with his defensive options then bringing in a young DM would seem to be a long term Wenger thing to do.

HazDanz

Soups123 wrote: »

What is the crack with Girouds fitness? Why is he not up to pace like the rest of them? Was he injured after the WC?

It's all the shagging. I've nothing to back this view up, it's what my brain automatically reaches for.

Looper007

Gringo180 wrote: »

He practically went AWOL to force the move through :rolleyes: And when it doesn't work out he expects us to take him back :pac: Delighted we got Sanchez in instead, just what we need against the big clubs in England and away ties for the latter stages of the Champs Lge, soaking up play and hitting teams on the counter with his and Walcotts pace with Ozil teeing them up, getting excited here even thinking about it :pac:

People (his fans) ignore or call b.s on this, that he went awol. He wasn't wanted and i'm happy with that. We have top class midfield and sadly most of our fan's can't and won't see it cause they are more loyal to a guy who wanted out.

Sanchez will come good once he find he's feet and all this talk of Cesc will be put to one side.

Alfred Borden

emergingstar wrote: »

Spend 30+ million on cesc, then stick him in at DM

RIGHT

Not as a Dm, as a deep lying playmaker which is what Arteta is in fairness. Big improvement

Soups123

HazDanz wrote: »

It's all the shagging. I've nothing to back this view up, it's what my brain automatically reaches for.

I was thinking there was more to it unless he was injured!

Debuchy is playing are others from the WC yet he looks to be struggling

emergingstar

Mr Blobby wrote: »

Some really bad knee jerk reactions here.
People saying they'd swap *insert Arsenal player* for Cesc need to cop on.

Fair enough you want Cesc, but don't be slating players that are actually willing to stay and play for our club... Unlike Cesc.

Love this post

Looper007

Raf32 wrote: »

We dont seem to be upgrading on Arteta this summer at least not with a specialist DM so could have slotted Cesc in there.

There's two weeks to go and When did Cesc turn into a DM, Raf?

Drexel

tayto lover wrote: »

I'd say that will be the end of the spending for this season.
We should have got and do need a big fast brute of a no-nonsense DM though.

Huge relief that we are getting a defender in.

Im not so sure we would be finished. I can see some deadline day action if in Wenger's words 'the right player becomes available'. Everyone and their dog were linking us with khedira. There seemed to be definite interest.

Fùcking hopefully anyway

tayto lover

salmocab wrote: »

If Manolas is done then the Rabiot deal would make sense I think, if Wenger is happy with his defensive options then bringing in a young DM would seem to be a long term Wenger thing to do.

What is Rabiot's first name so I can check him out please?
Is he really a DM?

Godge

Raf32 wrote: »

We dont seem to be upgrading on Arteta this summer at least not with a specialist DM so could have slotted Cesc in there. Or as a #10 with Ozil out wide. The reason we rejected Cesc was because we had other areas to strenghten, im just gutted that we our starting team will consist of Arteta and Giroud.

Arteta was an attacking midfielder slotted into DM, you want to repeat the example? Seriously, do you miss the irony in that statement.


As for strengthening other areas, that is what Debuchy, Chambers, Sanchez and Ospina have done. You can't solve every problem in one transfer window.

Alfred Borden

Looper007 wrote: »

There's two weeks to go and When did Cesc turn into a DM, Raf?

When did Arteta? Both would play as a deep lying playmaker

Looper007

Raf32 wrote: »

Not as a Dm, as a deep lying playmaker which is what Arteta is in fairness. Big improvement

We need a DM not a deep lying Midfield. We need someone to get a few crutching tackles in, not be bullied in the midfield. I don't see Cesc been that player plus we have Ramsey and Wilshire to do that deep lying playmaker role.

Looper007

Raf32 wrote: »

When did Arteta? Both would play as a deep lying playmaker

That's why I say we need a DM. Both aren't the answer Raf.

salmocab

tayto lover wrote: »

What is Rabiot's first name so I can check him out please?
Is he really a DM?

apparently he's a deep lying midfielder,don't know a thing about him not even a first name TBH but it sounds very Wengerish

Soups123

tayto lover wrote: »

What is Rabiot's first name so I can check him out please?
Is he really a DM?

Your useless Tayto just type into Google 'Football Rabiot'

Alfred Borden

Looper007 wrote: »

We need a DM not a deep lying Midfield. We need someone to get a few crutching tackles in, not be bullied in the midfield. I don't see Cesc been that player plus we have Ramsey and Wilshire to do that deep lying playmaker role.

But Wenger wont sign a specialist DM. Rabiot isnt one, either is Khedira. Cesc would be a massive upgrade on Jack and Arteta. If we sign a DM, ill admit im wrong and be delighted to say so.

tayto lover

jonny666 wrote: »

Huge relief that we are getting a defender in.

Im not so sure we would be finished. I can see some deadline day action if in Wenger's words 'the right player becomes available'. Everyone and their dog were linking us with khedira. There seemed to be definite interest.

Fùcking hopefully anyway

Just found this when looking for Rabiot BUT don't believe we will sign all these lads.

http://www.theweek.co.uk/football/premier-league/59993/arsenal-eye-rabiot-and-khedira-as-wilshere-fears-grow

wonga77

Looper you havent been about for ages, where did you disappear to?
Agree about Cesc, im sick we didnt get him and it kills me to see him in blue but its done and we have to move on. I was one of those who wanted him back but it aint happening and we shouldnt be turning on our own players over it

HazDanz

Soups123 wrote: »

I was thinking there was more to it unless he was injured!

Debuchy is playing are others from the WC yet he looks to be struggling

It might even be a lag from last season just catching up on him and Wenger giving him a chance to ease back in.

He played a serious amount of games last season.

Looper007

Raf32 wrote: »

But Wenger wont sign a specialist DM. Rabiot isnt one, either is Khedira. Cesc would be a massive upgrade on Jack and Arteta. If we sign a DM, ill admit im wrong and be delighted to say so.

As I said two weeks left, none of us know what Wenger is up too Raf. We can complain about it once that clock stops. I think it be a massive mistake if he doesn't sign one, it's been a problem for years.

Alfred Borden

Looper007 wrote: »

As I said two weeks left, none of us know what Wenger is up too Raf. We can complain about it once that clock stops. I think it be a massive mistake if he doesn't sign one, it's been a problem for years.

Agreed, i hope he does and then that will justify not signing Fabregas. Hopefully he can see that but it seems to have gone so quiet which is worrying

Looper007

wonga77 wrote: »

Looper you havent been about for ages, where did you disappear to?
Agree about Cesc, im sick we didnt get him and it kills me to see him in blue but its done and we have to move on. I was one of those who wanted him back but it aint happening and we shouldnt be turning on our own players over it

I'm working Wonga Can't always get time to come on here and rant :pac:

Looper007

So less talk of Cesc and those blue boys.

Whats the news on Besiktas? Are they a team that could turn us over? Who are the players to watch out for?

Drexel

tayto lover wrote: »

Just found this when looking for Rabiot BUT don't believe we will sign all these lads.

http://www.theweek.co.uk/football/premier-league/59993/arsenal-eye-rabiot-and-khedira-as-wilshere-fears-grow

If we just got in the defender I wouldn't be freaking out but some sort of DM type player would be nice. It seemed like wages were the sticking point with Kedhira so as the window closes someone will back down. Says Chelsea are favourites thought but they have Matic there already.

Loved this from the article

'Jack Wilshere's early promise has been extinguished like one of his cigarettes'

Alfred Borden

As much as it would be nice to get Manolas and Rabiot, it would be absolute criminal for Arteta and Giroud to be in our first 11. One of them i could handle but both would be horrible.

tayto lover

Looper007 wrote: »

I'm working Wonga Can't always get time to come on here and rant :pac:

There ya go Looper, we are signing the new Cesc :pac:

http://www.theweek.co.uk/football/premier-league/59630/arsenal-to-loan-out-campbell-as-new-fabregas-signs-on

Looper007

tayto lover wrote: »

There ya go Looper, we are signing the new Cesc :pac:

http://www.theweek.co.uk/football/premier-league/59630/arsenal-to-loan-out-campbell-as-new-fabregas-signs-on

"I'm buggering off back to Barca, thanks for making me the star I am today you gits. I might come back if all doesn't go well or to Chelsea" :pac:

Mr Blobby

So looks like Manolas is on for 11M.

bad2dabone

In fairness to Burnley they try to play.

We'll destroy them

jonneymendoza

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Cesc should be with us, no two ways about it.

Going to be weird when chelsea come to the emirates