Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Notes in OP 24/08

GavRedKing

F**k sake Giroud.


* Fantasy football

tayto lover

Cannot understand that substitution at all.:eek:

Gringo180

Sanchez off is baffling.

greendom

greendom wrote: »

We played poorly, bad marking for the first and got ripped apart from the second even though there was a foul and an offside

And what's the cause of the players not playing to their apparent potential?

.jacksparrow.

I said it earlier we haven't improved our first 11.

Take Sanchez off,great for his confidence at his new club Wenger.

omega man

What's with wengers tactical decisions lately. They've regressed, if that was even possible.

That_Guy

Ugh, Giroud in my FF team. Second week in a row he comes on from the bench. A hat trick please.

Omeceron

Deleted User wrote: »

And what's the cause of the players not playing to their apparent potential?

Spit it out FFS

greendom

Deleted User wrote: »

And what's the cause of the players not playing to their apparent potential?

Sh*t happens

wonga77

thats a strange call by Wenger, why not leave the two of them on? there are far worse players still on the park

.jacksparrow.

Ozil still on the wing doing nothing.

He isn't a winger.

greendom

greendom wrote: »

Sh*t happens

And has been happening for a decade at this stage. What constant has there been in that time?

Omeceron wrote: »

Spit it out FFS

Not too hard to work out buddy.

Y2KBOS86

Hyzepher wrote: »

Cesc showing that he is far from what we need

We didn't need Ozil or Alexis either to be fair.

Luxury players as much as Cesc.

This team has needed a strong, tall, central midfielder who can tackle and a pacy, mobile, 6 foot or so striker for years.

Omeceron

Deleted User wrote: »

And has been happening for a decade at this stage. What constant has there been in that time?


Not too hard to work out buddy.

So have your usual whinge and move on.

Y2KBOS86

Wenger will never learn tactically.

Doesn't matter who we buy!

GavRedKing

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Ozil still on the wing doing nothing.

He isn't a winger.

He was good for Germany out left.

fulmer1984

Mourinho's right, we are easy to play against. Nothing changes with this team and Wenger, outdone against good teams more often than not

Bobby Baccala

Y2KBOS86 wrote: »

We didn't need Ozil or Alexis either to be fair.

This team has needed a strong, tall, central midfielder who can tackle and a pacy, mobile, 6 foot or so striker for years.

You just described henry and vieira

completely agree though

niallo27

Deleted User wrote: »

And what's the cause of the players not playing to their apparent potential?

The manager can't get the full potential out of his players anymore. It pretty clear for years now. The fa cup was papering over the cracks.

Redzer7

GavRedKing wrote: »

He was good for Germany out left.

We're not Germany though, far from it.

bad2dabone

Lucky jack.

michael999999

Wilshere really is a coward!

greendom

lucky not to be a red there

extra gravy

Jack showing his immaturity again with that reckless challenge. Wenger's insistence on accommodating him is proving detrimental to the team.

Omeceron

Omeceron wrote: »

So have your usual whinge and move on.

Yeah sure it's great. 2 trophies in 4 months!

GavRedKing

Redzer7 wrote: »

We're not Germany though, far from it.

He had periods where he was poor for Germany and then would do something brilliant, its only a matter of time before he gets involved.

.jacksparrow.

Just can't be negative around here.

Blind faith.

tayto lover

Wilshere could end up being sent off so should be substituted.

TimeToShine

It's so depressing watching Wilshere play like this when you really want him to succeed. He has been one of my favourite players for years but this is bordering on indefensible.

omega man

Anyone for a game of super market sweep??!!

Y2KBOS86

wonga77 wrote: »

thats a strange call by Wenger, why not leave the two of them on? there are far worse players still on the park

There are better tacticians on this thread.

Honestly believe that,

Posters calling for Wilshere to come off and Giroud on are more clued in than Arsene.

It's shocking really.

Losing that FA Cup would have better for us long term.

Mr Blobby

Y2KBOS86 wrote: »

There are better tacticians on this thread.

Honestly believe that,

Posters calling for Wilshere to come off and Giroud on are more clued in than Arsene.

It's shocking really.

Losing that FA Cup would have better for us long term.

And.... Proof you're nuts!

That_Guy

Arsenal could really do with somebody like Chieck Tiote in their midfield. Far too bloody weak. Infuriating to watch.

omega man

Have we had a shot on target yet...??

Really disappointed in Ramsey of all the players.

gandalf

Y2KBOS86 wrote: »

Losing that FA Cup would have better for us long term.

I honestly don't understand how someone can call themselves an arsenal fan and post statements like this?

Omeceron

Y2KBOS86 wrote: »

Losing that FA Cup would have better for us long term.

By this logic losing this game is a good thing...

kronsington

Come on lads, show some some ****ing Heart and salvage something from this for Christ sake

Redzer7

That_Guy wrote: »

Arsenal could really do with somebody like Chieck Tiote in their midfield. Far too bloody weak. Infuriating to watch.

Are you mental ? He can't play ball, not technical enough.

Bobby Baccala

Redzer7 wrote: »

Are you mental ? He can't play ball, not technical enough.

Agree, more rash than flamini and thats not what we need

Could do with someone who can take corners.

omega man

remember when our biggest complaint was that we tried to pass the ball into the back of the net? God how miss those days now..............

the untitled user

Really really disjointed performance from Arsenal so far. Overall, it feels this team has taken a step or two backwards since last season.

I don't like Ramsey as the highest of the midfield three, his passing isn't incisive enough, and Wenger learned that already. Ozil would be far more effective for his if he were moved in there, and putting a hard runner like Ox/Sanchez in the wide areas would have given Monreal much better protection for the goals.

On that note, it was Wilshere Wenger should have taken off and not Sanchez. We're getting a lot of space in the wide areas that we aren't exploiting due to our narrowness, having Sanchez on the wings would have opened the game up for us and kept one of Baines/Coleman pegged back and ultimately prevented the first goal.

Oh and Per should not be on the left side of the CB pairing, he's getting sucked too high up the field and the distance between him and Chambers is way to high at times. This was evident in both goals I felt.

Even the Dutch commentator I have on is talking about how Debuchy came from Newcastle as he's crossing the ball in. No danger or worries for the opposition.

.jacksparrow.

That's 2 chances, 3 more and he will score.

Unless Wenger signs 3 top players we are screwed this season.

the untitled user

the untitled user wrote: »

Really really disjointed performance from Arsenal so far. Overall, it feels this team has taken a step or two backwards since last season.

I don't like Ramsey as the highest of the midfield three, his passing isn't incisive enough, and Wenger learned that already. Ozil would be far more effective for his if he were moved in there, and putting a hard runner like Ox/Sanchez in the wide areas would have given Monreal much better protection for the goals.

On that note, it was Wilshere Wenger should have taken off and not Sanchez. We're getting a lot of space in the wide areas that we aren't exploiting due to our narrowness, having Sanchez on the wings would have opened the game up for us and kept one of Baines/Coleman pegged back and ultimately prevented the first goal.

Oh and Per should not be on the left side of the CB pairing, he's getting sucked too high up the field and the distance between him and Chambers is way to high at times. This was evident in both goals I felt.

Should be set up more like a 4-3-3 with the midfield 3 fairly tight but whoever is on Ozil's side being tasked with getting a bit wider when we don't have the ball.

Counter-attack, running in space with the ball, nah, play a slow pass so the opposition get 7 behind the ball. The ****?

tayto lover

Wilshere gives the ball away far too often.

omega man

Wenger mustn't rate Campbell at all.

Referee giving a few favorable decisions.

the untitled user

Deleted User wrote: »

Should be set up more like a 4-3-3 with the midfield 3 fairly tight but whoever is on Ozil's side being tasked with getting a bit wider when we don't have the ball.

Wholeheartedly agree. Keeping Evertons fullbacks pegged back in their own half is the best approach against, their midfield simply aren't dynamic enough to open up space without them and they start lumping the ball long.

As much as I like Everton and the way they play, we really should be beating a team like this easily. With new arrivals and the German's missing the preseason we're really disjointed but Wenger has most of the blame here, we're not taking advantage of Everton's obvious tactical weaknesses.