Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Notes in OP 24/08

.jacksparrow.

byrneg28 wrote: »

That's a bare faced lie, we conceded two against Liverpool, Skrtel's first two goals...

I don't know lads he said it last night.

Soups123

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

I don't know lads he said it last night.

He did say it alright it got my attention

tayto lover

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

I don't know lads he said it last night.

He did but he was wrong.

.jacksparrow.

Soups123 wrote: »

He did say it alright it got my attention

Cheers.

.jacksparrow.

Soups123 wrote: »

He did say it alright it got my attention

Cheers.

.jacksparrow.

Giroud out until new year??

According to areblog.

omega man

Almunia forced to retire due to failed medical. Although sad to hear, it was a heart condition detected and catching it may have saved his life. This condition is a cause of sudden adult death. Surprised previous medicals didn't pick it up. Wish him all the best.

http://news.arseblog.com/2014/08/report-heart-problem-forces-almunia-retirement/

fearrua

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Giroud out until new year??

According to areblog.

Link here: http://news.arseblog.com/2014/08/giroud-ruled-out-until-new-year/

Well, fúck.

gandalf

Bugger we have to sign someone now!

.jacksparrow.

fearrua wrote: »

Link here: http://news.arseblog.com/2014/08/giroud-ruled-out-until-new-year/

Well, fúck.

Ughhhh

omega man

Falcao on loan, I'd be having that. Won't hold my breath........

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/11057381/Arsenal-manager-Arsene-Wenger-faces-striker-crisis-over-Oliver-Giroud.html

shano_88

Danny Welbeck anyone?

Alfred Borden

shano_88 wrote: »

Danny Welbeck anyone?

Im really mixed on that one. the brother (united fan) rates him and thinks he needs a change of scenery but cant tell if he is laughing behind my back or not :pac:

Fuzzy_Dunlop

Welbeck is a good player but he doesn't score enough goals.

Spanish Johnny

Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote: »

Welbeck is a good player but he doesn't score enough goals.

Yip agree. Wouldn't have minded him as an addition to Giroud but can't replace him.

gosplan

I really don't think Welbeck is good enough and anyone with designs on the top 4 would be nuts to sell us a striker right now.

Unless there's something that's going to quickly knit that we haven't seen, Wenger needs to buy.

brianregan09

If we signed Falcao even just for a year i may actually cum in my pants

overpronator

omega man wrote: »

Falcao on loan, I'd be having that. Won't hold my breath........

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/11057381/Arsenal-manager-Arsene-Wenger-faces-striker-crisis-over-Oliver-Giroud.html

Wouldn't believe a word Matt Law writes, he's click fodder of the highest order. (Falcao would be sweet though!)

Spanish Johnny

brianregan09 wrote: »

If we signed Falcao even just for a year i may actually cum in my pants

I dunno would many managers/clubs pay a 20 million loan fee for a striker coming back from a cruciate injury.

Particularly after your striker is out for 4 months after the ball hits him!

omega man

overpronator wrote: »

Wouldn't believe a word Matt Law writes, he's click fodder of the highest order. (Falcao would be sweet though!)

Guardian reporting it too. Big fee but includes wages so in the bigger scheme it would be worth it. We are not signing Falcao ;-)

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/aug/26/arsenal-striker-reinforcement-olivier-giroud

shano_88

Falcao just isnt realistic. £20m for a loan fee is ludicrous.


Cavani would be great but again I dont think its realistic given Zlatans injury and PSGs reluctance to sell.

Remy and Welbeck are two decent options I think. Both can play in a few positions, have pace and are available. Although It is debatable whether United would sell to us at this stage.

I would take Welbeck. His finishing has let him but he is a very hard worker and has great physical attributes. I do think there is potential for him to get better.

omega man

shano_88 wrote: »

Falcao just isnt realistic. £20m for a loan fee is ludicrous.


Cavani would be great but again I dont think its realistic given Zlatans injury and PSGs reluctance to sell.

Remy and Welbeck are two decent options I think. Both can play in a few positions, have pace and are available. Although It is debatable whether United would sell to us at this stage.

I would take Welbeck. His finishing has let him but he is a very hard worker and has great physical attributes. I do think there is potential for him to get better.

The fee includes his wages. How much have we wasted on wages for complete dross over the years.

If the club are aiming for the likes of welbeck then we won't be winning much this season.

shano_88

omega man wrote: »

The fee includes his wages. How much have we wasted on wages for complete dross over the years.

If the club are aiming for the likes of welbeck then we won't be winning much this season.

Is it including his wages? I didnt realise that. I still dont think it will happen.

Re Welbeck, Im not saying hes a world beater but hes a good player with the potential to become a very good player imo. There really isn't much out there and he looks like one of the better, more realistic, options in my eyes.

overpronator

Yeah Falcao just isn't a goer. United wouldn't sell us Welbeck, it would be downright stupid and on their part. (I know I know, let's not), plus with his age it would probably be the end for Sanogo who Wenger seems to see as his latest project.
If its anyone it might be Cisse bit he doesn't seem fancied at all. I can see it being someone from leftfield, Llorente, is he fit and/or available.

In saying all if this I can quite easily see it being nobody.

omega man

overpronator wrote: »

Yeah Falcao just isn't a goer. United wouldn't sell us Welbeck, it would be downright stupid and on their part. (I know I know, let's not), plus with his age it would probably be the end for Sanogo who Wenger seems to see as his latest project.
If its anyone it might be Cisse bit he doesn't seem fancied at all. I can see it being someone from leftfield, Llorente, is he fit and/or available.

In saying all if this I can quite easily see it being nobody.

Well I'm going to cling to the minimal chance of Falcao because the alternatives are depressing!!

kronsington

I'm just in the door from work and my housemate has informed me we are likely to miss out on Manolas to Roma.. Is this true??

shano_88

kronsington wrote: »

I'm just in the door from work and my housemate has informed me we are likely to miss out on Manolas to Roma.. Is this true??

Yup, I think it was confirmed today. Benatia to Bayern Munich and Manolas to Roma.

Ed Winchester

kronsington wrote: »

I'm just in the door from work and my housemate has informed me we are likely to miss out on Manolas to Roma.. Is this true??

Indeed it is.

Spanish Johnny

omega man wrote: »

The fee includes his wages. How much have we wasted on wages for complete dross over the years.

If the club are aiming for the likes of welbeck then we won't be winning much this season.

It would include 8 months wages. That's still an astronomical fee...

Spanish Johnny

kronsington wrote: »

I'm just in the door from work and my housemate has informed me we are likely to miss out on Manolas to Roma.. Is this true??

Yip...if not happy to be guaranteed a first team place then that's understandable.

omega man

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

It would include 8 months wages. That's still an astronomical fee...

Agreed but he's some player. How much would he cost to buy? I suspect the reported loan fee is proportionate to his market value.

I wonder if Balotelli hadn't gone to Liverpool would we have changed our position on him under the circumstances..........??

enfant terrible

omega man wrote: »

Agreed but he's some player. How much would he cost to buy? I suspect the reported loan fee is proportionate to his market value.

I wonder if Balotelli hadn't gone to Liverpool would we have changed our position on him under the circumstances..........??

Why would Monaco sell him though, maybe he's forcing his way out.

Do Monaco have another decent striker at the club?

Ajfunky

PSG manager says Cavani wouldnt go for less than 60m Euros (47.5m sterling).. really at that price, would we have been complaining if we had done it already? Slightly more than Ozil and we all know Strikers add about double onto their value by the goals they provide.

If he is available, Im kinda thinking this is a no brainer. And the Psg manger is coming out with quotes like that he has to be ready for offers. Pretty much the transfer we were all hoping for, just a lot more forced to do so -might cost us an extra 10mil due to our circumstances..

Spanish Johnny

omega man wrote: »

Agreed but he's some player. How much would he cost to buy? I suspect the reported loan fee is proportionate to his market value.

I wonder if Balotelli hadn't gone to Liverpool would we have changed our position on him under the circumstances..........??

Ya fair point. But he is not exactly young and just back from a bad injury.

Re Balotelli I don't think so. Id say there is little doubt these guys at the club and Wenger have targets and a preference list. I don't think it's a case of scrambling around

extra gravy

Falcao could win us the league...the £20m would be worth it then. Or he could get injured in his first game...It might be a goer for the sugar daddy clubs but I can't see a prudent club like ours taking a risk that big.

Ajfunky

For me, Falcao would be a no go. As great as he is, we CANNOT have another season of "oh he's coming off a big injury, he'll have to take his time" and we certainly cant risk getting in an injury prone player to cover our injury list.

Can someone give me an idea of what this Loan figure means? 20m for his wages only or including some transfer fee or? (Obviously that 20mil is speculation anyway but some idea..)

Soups123

There isn't a hope in hell after years of managing finances well that we will blow 20m on a loan player and I wouldn't expect them to

omega man

Ajfunky wrote: »

For me, Falcao would be a no go. As great as he is, we CANNOT have another season of "oh he's coming off a big injury, he'll have to take his time" and we certainly cant risk getting in an injury prone player to cover our injury list.

Can someone give me an idea of what this Loan figure means? 20m for his wages only or including some transfer fee or? (Obviously that 20mil is speculation anyway but some idea..)

20m includes loan fee and wages......it's reported.

Apparently he's a Real Madrid target too.

L'prof

Ajfunky wrote: »

Can someone give me an idea of what this Loan figure means? 20m for his wages only or including some transfer fee or? (Obviously that 20mil is speculation anyway but some idea..)

£20m includes loan fee and wages. Never gonna happen, if he's £47m to buy then that makes far more sense!

Soups123

He 's reported to be on. €350k per week

omega man

L'prof wrote: »

£20m includes loan fee and wages. Never gonna happen, if he's £47m to buy then that makes far more sense!

Maybe not. You'd have all the risk then associated to his previous injury then on top, due to his age, his sell on value after 3-4 years would be low enough.

extra gravy

Now according to some South American reporter, we're supposed to be making a £50m bid for Cavani...it's going to be a long week

Spanish Johnny

Soups123 wrote: »

He 's reported to be on. €350k per week

And that boat definitely sails so! Madness.

enfant terrible

extra gravy wrote: »

Now according to some South American reporter, we're supposed to be making a £50m bid for Cavani...it's going to be a long week

Would prefer Falcao, a year older but better striker.

Marty McFly

There's going to be lots and lots of speculation until the transfer window closes now.

Giroud out till next year.

Our striking options being Campbell untried and untested, Sanogo tried and lots of question marks and Sanchez who is undeniably class and improves our first eleven were not quite sure were in the front three Wenger sees him playing.


Falcao/Cavani or whoever money wise I couldn't care how much it costs to be honest if it takes 20 million for Falcao for one season then so be it.

Godge

Marty McFly wrote: »

There's going to be lots and lots of speculation until the transfer window closes now.

Giroud out till next year.

Our striking options being Campbell untried and untested, Sanogo tried and lots of question marks and Sanchez who is undeniably class and improves our first eleven were not quite sure were in the front three Wenger sees him playing.


Falcao/Cavani or whoever money wise I couldn't care how much it costs to be honest if it takes 20 million for Falcao for one season then so be it.

Podolski? Akpom?

Not saying they are the answer but for completeness......

jank

Torres anyone?

batistuta9

Soups123 wrote: »

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

I don't know lads he said it last night.

He did say it alright it got my attention

7 is the actual number, lowest in the league

the presenter said it to carragher after the palace game when he was on about zonal marking

L'prof

jank wrote: »

Torres anyone?

Not a hope in hell, high wages and I can't see him ever being the player he once was.

Fuzzy_Dunlop

Marty McFly wrote: »

There's going to be lots and lots of speculation until the transfer window closes now.

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That why I can't wait to go to EP at the weekend, keep away from it all for the most part.

Last year I came back to Wenger's smirk and Ozil signing! :pac: