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    #5252
    FREETV
    Registered Users Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    Yes Irish Water has been setup to make a profit at the expense of the Irish people and to the advantage of the Cronies.


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    #5253
    Valetta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    FREETV wrote: »
    Yes Irish Water has been setup to make a profit at the expense of the Irish people and to the advantage of the Cronies.

    What cronies would those be?


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    #5254
    BoJack Horseman
    Registered Users Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    In Lonesome Dove wrote: »
    The fact that the government gave Irish Water to Denis O Brien.

    Let's hope you kept the receipt for where you get your 'facts'.


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    #5255
    Essien
    Registered Users Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Essien


    Valetta wrote: »
    What cronies would those be?

    The cronies and the fat cats and the banksters of course.


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    #5256
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Banjo String wrote: »
    Except that's not exactly true, in fact it's a complete lie.



    http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/mary-lou-mcdonalds-business-class-flights-cost-fundraisers-10k-30567384.html

    And no, I'm on defending it either. Economy does the rest of us, I've only been business class once in my life, which I got bumped up to for voluntary taking a later flight from Hong Kong to Heathrow.

    Politicians aren't royalty tbh.

    A lie is it? Do you think she got the tickets on a promise that she would pay later?


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    #5257
    yipeeeee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,605 ✭✭✭yipeeeee


    In Lonesome Dove wrote: »
    My understanding is that the allowance is 30,000 per household.

    I agree with you too. I reckon Irish Water has been set up to make a profit. The fact that the government gave Irish Water to Denis O Brien. It's just going to be sold on in the future to make a profit for him.

    Which is all not true.

    Jesus this mob has truly brainwashed a good few.

    Good work.


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    #5258
    Satriale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭Satriale


    yipeeeee wrote: »
    Which is all not true.

    Jesus this mob has truly brainwashed a good few.

    Good work.

    The lines get blurred with the corrupt dealings FG have had with Mr O Brien before. The best thing to do would be for FG not to have had any more to do with him, then nobody could question their motives in this regards.


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    #5259
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    A lie is it? Do you think she got the tickets on a promise that she would pay later?

    It is a fact that fundraising covered the trip, and that isn't what you led people to believe.


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    #5260
    Leslie91
    Registered Users Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    The rest of their wage goes into a pot from which they draw it for expenses, such as Mary-Lous first class round trip to Australia.

    Not to mention 'the pension' from the 'job'.


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    #5261
    MadYaker
    Registered Users Posts: 12,218 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    This thread has gone into fantasy land.


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    #5262
    FREETV
    Registered Users Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    yipeeeee wrote: »
    Which is all not true.

    Jesus this mob has truly brainwashed a good few.

    Good work.[/QUO

    He bought the firm that installs the water meters.


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    #5263
    BoJack Horseman
    Registered Users Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    FREETV wrote: »
    yipeeeee wrote: »
    Which is all not true.

    Jesus this mob has truly brainwashed a good few.

    Good work.

    He bought the firm that installs the water meters.



    Apparently the man who owns the company that makes electricity metres "owns" ESB

    ......Said no one, ever.

    Saying the same about IW is equally false.


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    #5264
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    VinLieger wrote: »
    What politician isn't populist?
    Which is about as self serving as it gets. :rolleyes:
    Also there are level's of populism, SF are telling blatant lies

    What's the difference between a 'blatant' lie and a 'lie'
    FG/Lab lied through their teeth to get into power after all, look at the promises they reneged on.


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    #5265
    Satriale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭Satriale


    FREETV wrote: »

    He bought the firm that installs the water meters.

    True he bought it, but we(the taxpayers) paid for most of it.

    http://namawinelake.wordpress.com/2012/04/08/ten-things-to-know-about-the-denis-obriensiteserv-transaction/


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    #5266
    FREETV
    Registered Users Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    O'Brien bought the water meter fitting companies and won the contract.
    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/mick-wallace-obrien-buying-siteserv-very-questionable-290751.html


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    #5267
    rob316
    Registered Users Posts: 18,112 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    FREETV wrote: »
    yipeeeee wrote: »
    Which is all not true.

    Jesus this mob has truly brainwashed a good few.

    Good work.[/QUO

    He bought the firm that installs the water meters.

    But he doesn't own irish water as another posted stated as fact which is untrue.

    I went to a protest in Cork Saturday and the amount of ill informed morons was unreal, it made the rest of us look stupid.


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    #5268
    Valetta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    FREETV wrote: »
    O'Brien bought the water meter fitting companies.

    Was this before or after they were awarded the contracts?


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    #5269
    FREETV
    Registered Users Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    Valetta wrote: »
    Was this before or after they were awarded the contracts?[/
    Afterwards.


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    #5270
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Valetta wrote: »
    Was this before or after they knew they were going to be awarded the contracts?


    Fyp.

    Coincidental of course.


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    #5271
    FREETV
    Registered Users Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    rob316 wrote: »
    FREETV wrote: »

    But he doesn't own irish water as another posted stated as fact which is untrue.

    I went to a protest in Cork Saturday and the amount of ill informed morons was unreal, it made the rest of us look stupid.

    He will be next in line in the running to buy it when they do decide to Privatise Irish Water.
    Politicians are not to be trusted.


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    #5272
    Valetta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    FREETV wrote: »
    Valetta wrote: »
    Was this before or after they were awarded the contracts?[/
    Afterwards.

    So anyone else could have bought the company if they wanted.


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    #5273
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    BoJack Horseman wrote: »
    Apparently the man who owns the company that makes electricity metres "owns" ESB

    How dare you insult John ESB!


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    #5274
    Satriale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭Satriale


    Valetta wrote: »
    Was this before or after they were awarded the contracts?

    They underbid at least 2 other companies and still got it. One bid E52 million , and one bid E60 million . Mr o Briens company bid E45 million.
    We(the taxpayers) took a E100 million hit.

    Keep defending though.


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    #5275
    Satriale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭Satriale


    Valetta wrote: »

    So anyone else could have bought the company if they wanted.

    "Anybody" tried but couldnt get past Mr o briens underbid.

    see above and

    http://namawinelake.wordpress.com/2012/04/08/ten-things-to-know-about-the-denis-obriensiteserv-transaction/


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    #5276
    hju6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭hju6


    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2014/01/30/thicker-than-uisce/

    The whole timeline of Irish water, Siteserve, D. Obrien, Hogan, and how the web of cronyism, deals and jobs for the boys was spun


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    #5277
    FREETV
    Registered Users Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2014/10/09/contains-impurities/ Yes, I read that sometime earlier.


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    #5278
    FREETV
    Registered Users Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    Corrupt as hell your so called democratically elected Coalition, well I never voted for the shower but I will vote them all out of power!


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    #5279
    FREETV
    Registered Users Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    Those links need to be made more viral and posted on the Facebook water charges protest page.


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    #5280
    In Lonesome Dove
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 479 ✭✭In Lonesome Dove


    rob316 wrote: »
    FREETV wrote: »

    But he doesn't own irish water as another posted stated as fact which is untrue.

    I went to a protest in Cork Saturday and the amount of ill informed morons was unreal, it made the rest of us look stupid.

    Cheers for clearing that up. To be honest there is so much stuff online like politics.ie and the journal and Facebook and Irish politics has been very complex in the past with tribunals and all, I got my info wrong and wires mixed. My choice of wording was poor in the other post but went back and deleted it.


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    #5281
    FREETV
    Registered Users Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    When it is on Wikileaks you know that It will happen.https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/wikileaks


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