***ALL THINGS IRISH WATER/WATER CHARGE RELATED POST HERE***

Banjo String

listermint wrote: »

Running scared trying to buy back sentiment



http://www.thejournal.ie/water-charges-relief-social-welfare-1742674-Oct2014/

Water charges relief for all. Wooo waves flag

They are back-pedalling now. Still feel anything less than a complete abolishment of Irish Water will satisfy the people.


They ballsed it up, and they ballsed it up good. No Govt will want to touch water taxes with a forty foot pole for the foreseeable future after this hames.

Expect the whole is to crash spectacularly around their ears before Christmas.

Any wonder FG never go more than one term in Govt.

papu

Banjo String wrote: »

Isn't there another thread about protesters (two in fact) ?

True.

Banjo String wrote: »

That post is but a sad attempt to take this one off topic with a 'all protesters are tick' youtube video tbh.

False , It's showing the true nature of this fella and the patience the gardaí are showing to these muppets.
"All protesters are wasting Gardaí time and resources."

Banjo String

papu wrote: »

False , It's showing the true nature of this fella and the patience the gardaí are showing to these muppets.
"All protesters are wasting Gardaí time and resources."

Which is probably why it's better suited for the actual protester thread (of which there are two) , no?

Streetwalker

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

I feel sorry for the gardaí, ordinary decent people having to put up with this rubbish.

How you know they are ordinary decent people.

Iwasfrozen

Streetwalker wrote: »

How you know they are ordinary decent people.

Because the patience they are displaying with these idiots is near superhuman levels.

Tony EH

SaveOurLyric wrote: »

This is true. Buts its in a good cause and generally well motivated.

Oh dear.

Irish Aris

Pwindedd wrote: »

I rang them today. Being a tenant in a house I quite like, at a reasonable rate of rent I don't want to go rocking any boats. Got through straight away and they gave me an application no and pin over the phone straight away. Registered online in minutes.

As everyone is going to be issued with a bill anyway, regardless of wether they've registered, if IW are to be believed, then I would like that bill to be as low as possible. If the allowances are not claimed then billing will be higher - does this not increase IWs balance sheet and make them more economically viable on paper at least.

Same here, rang them early in the morning and got through immediately.
I wasn't able to register over the phone (apparently that's an option) as they asked me something and I didn't know the answer, so we agreed that they will send me a registration pack by mail.
Obviously when we verified the address, it wasn't my name-I assume that it was my landlady (I asked her, but she didn't tell me, referencing the data protection policy, which is a good sign), but at least we changed it to my name.

Has the one month extension for the registration been finalised?

hju6

papu wrote: »

This is Hilarious,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSn-9zzMxIU

The density of this lad with the camera.

This is more hilarious, and sums up the mood of the majority of the citizens in the "Republic"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSs0W19t5RY

listermint

Irish Aris wrote: »

Same here, rang them early in the morning and got through immediately.
I wasn't able to register over the phone (apparently that's an option) as they asked me something and I didn't know the answer, so we agreed that they will send me a registration pack by mail.
Obviously when we verified the address, it wasn't my name-I assume that it was my landlady (I asked her, but she didn't tell me, referencing the data protection policy, which is a good sign), but at least we changed it to my name.

Has the one month extension for the registration been finalised?

Lots of these posts today, have you guys been sent out today to make it look as of there are more than 80,000 people signed up?

What about the other Million needed ?? :P :P


Gas Stuff

Irish Aris

listermint wrote: »

Lots of these posts today, have you guys been sent out today to make it look as of there are more than 80,000 people signed up?

What about the other Million needed ?? :P :P


Gas Stuff

Nothing like that listermint, just replied to a post that had a similar experience as me.
I don't post in this thread that much anyway (1-2 times maybe), mostly follow it so I can keep up-to-date with what's happening.

Going Forward

http://i.imgur.com/YCG0KPl.jpg

Another leak??

Iwasfrozen

hju6 wrote: »

This is more hilarious, and sums up the mood of the majority of the citizens in the "Republic"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSs0W19t5RY

Ignorant idiot. He can't even write a good song.

hju6

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Ignorant idiot.

Post reported.

The Moldy Gowl

hju6 wrote: »

Post reported.

Post unreported

Highflyer13

listermint wrote: »

Running scared trying to buy back sentiment



http://www.thejournal.ie/water-charges-relief-social-welfare-1742674-Oct2014/

Water charges relief for all. Wooo waves flag

Too late Enda. You have got your chance and you've monumentally fcuked it up. Get out with FF ye treacherous b****ds


http://youtu.be/AX-Rt7JIhIw

mynameismud

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

"No contract no consent" means sweet FA. The legislation states that if you use the services you are contracting with IW and unless this legislation is struck down by a constitutional challenge, it won't be overruled by the legal equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and saying "la la la I can't hear you".

Best of luck to them trying to prove use of services in the 80% of unmetered homes.

hju6

mynameismud wrote: »

Best of luck to them trying to prove use of services in the 80% of unmetered homes.

My meter is easily accessed outside in the footpath

It's so easily accessed I fear it may get stolen

In Lonesome Dove

hju6 wrote: »

My meter is easily accessed outside in the footpath

It's so easily accessed I fear it may get stolen

I thought about this. Not digging it up and taking it or anything. All it will take is for a neighbour to come about in the middle of the night to dig it up or damage it or whatever.

hju6

In Lonesome Dove wrote: »

I thought about this. Not digging it up and taking it or anything. All it will take is for a neighbour to come about in the middle of the night to dig it up or damage it or whatever.

If it's not there I suppose there will be no proof of usage, and the forced contract (tax) will be void.
Just a thought

Banjo String

hju6 wrote: »

If it's not there I suppose there will be no proof of usage, and the forced contract (tax) will be void.
Just a thought

I'll rob yours if you rob mine.

Edit, an entrepreneurial fella should definitely be considering a water meter removal business now, and prob some storage for them too.

E-voting machines, move over and make room for these hoors.

gladrags

In Lonesome Dove wrote: »

I thought about this. Not digging it up and taking it or anything. All it will take is for a neighbour to come about in the middle of the night to dig it up or damage it or whatever.

It could become a collectors item,and very valuable.

An artefact of the past,?

hju6

Banjo String wrote: »

I'll rob yours if you rob mine.

Edit, an entrepreneurial fella should definitely be considering a water meter removal business now, and prob some storage for them too.

E-voting machines, move over and make room for these hoors.

DOB bought won by tender that contract ,TWO WEEKS before setting up GMC REMOVALS

Larbre34

Larbre34 wrote: »

Y'know, the way things are going now, the panic and backtracking, the gathering fury, the momentum and focus of a population bled dry - I'd be willing to bet you the value of a year's worth of water that the charges never happen, or at least are ignored and never enforced by a company that collapses.

The charges will happen alright either in their current form or else just by increases in income tax or other taxes, anyone thinking otherwise is extremely naive. Cancelling the water charges and reversing the income tax changes in the recent budget would leave me a few 100 euro worse of for instance and something like that is all they have to do, they won't say it's to cover the charges but it will.

Those who pay tax will also be hit harder than with the charges as they will have to make up the difference for those not paying or paying little tax. At least with the charges everyone pays for what they use (once the meters are in).

hju6

Rosa Hot Lumberman wrote: »

The charges will happen alright either in their current form or else just by increases in income tax or other taxes. Cancelling the water charges and reversing the income tax changes in the recent budget would leave me a few 100 euro worse of for instance and something like that is all they have to do, they won't say it's to cover the charges but it will.

Those who pay tax will also be hit harder than they are now as they will have to make up the difference for those not paying or paying little tax. At least with the charges everyone pays for what they use (once the meters are in).

Not true, a single person or a couple with no children will be paying through General taxation for the "free" allowances granted to others as well as paying for their own water,

So a single person or couple with no children will be paying more than others

yipeeeee

186 for an emergency call out????

They can sing for it!!

Banjo String

yipeeeee wrote: »

186 for an emergency call out????

They can sing for it!!

Very coincidental that the callout charge is almost exactly the amount of a weeks social. :cool:

yipeeeee

Banjo String wrote: »

Very coincidental that the callout charge is almost exactly the amount of a weeks social. :cool:

Strange alright, just heard it on Vincent brown.

Larbre34

Yeah but it's the basis on which they are charged - the rate per 1000 litres was calculated off the back of a ridiculous estimated cost to fund the administration of a completely unnecessary organisation and has nothing to do with the production cost of potable mains water.

Furthermore, the costs incurred by the county councils remain the same, as they are doing exactly the same as regards water supply functions as they were before IW came along as they immediately became agency suppliers to IW on its establishment.

In my view, paying charges would be legitimising this gargantuan duplication of a bureaucracy that is not needed in the state, so I encourage everyone not to do it.

yipeeeee

yipeeeee wrote: »

186 for an emergency call out????

They can sing for it!!

How much would your local plumber charge? I doubt it'd be very much different!

Little CuChulainn

Jaycornyn wrote: »

Ok. I've read that the legislation is in conflict with constitution and EU law. What carries the most power? What overrides what? As i've said I don't know anything about law.

I was under the impression that a contract had to be physically signed before it became binding? If so does this legislation not break laws? I still haven't got a clear answer on this from someone who seems to know what they are on about.

If it is a case that they turn my water to a trickle, what is stopping me from going out and turning it back on?

It would have to be found to be unconstitutional in the Supreme Court to be considered invalid. A guy on Facebook calling it unconstitutional doesn't change the law. The folks in the likes of Dublin says No have shown they don't understand the constitution a number of times. "Unconstitutional" is just a buzz word they use when they don't agree with something. If someone tells you something is unconstitutional ask them what article it breaches.

mynameismud wrote: »

Best of luck to them trying to prove use of services in the 80% of unmetered homes.

Do you use these pipes?

No.

Ok we'll cut them off so.