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***ALL THINGS IRISH WATER/WATER CHARGE RELATED POST HERE***

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    #6962
    papu
    Registered Users Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭papu


    EazyD wrote: »
    I'm not thick, I realise any water you buy/consume has trace elements. That doesn't explain why there is excess amounts of visible particulates floating in the glass.

    Solubility of Calcium carbonate decreases as Temperature increses. This means that in the colder pipes and reservoirs the same volume of water can hold more.

    When its out of the tap , and warming this excess crashes out as the solubility goes down.

    Blame mother nature.


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    #6963
    EazyD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭EazyD


    Barely There wrote: »
    Get your water tested and see if it complies with EU drinking water regulations.
    If it does, you've nothing to be complaining about.

    So you would have no problem paying for that glass of water which I posted on the previous page?


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    #6964
    papu
    Registered Users Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭papu


    EazyD wrote: »
    So you would have no problem paying for that glass of water which I posted on the previous page?

    Biologically speaking it is better for you. Why are you so caught up with the aesthetics?


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    #6965
    EazyD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭EazyD


    papu wrote: »
    Biologically speaking it is better for you. Why are you so caught up with the aesthetics?

    You might be one to enjoy a creamy glass of water but I think I speak for most people when I say it isn't acceptable.


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    #6966
    Going Forward
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,224 ✭✭✭Going Forward


    papu wrote: »
    Biologically speaking it is better for you. Why are you so caught up with the aesthetics?

    Some people don't know their own luck, eh?


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    #6967
    papu
    Registered Users Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭papu


    EazyD wrote: »
    You might be one to enjoy a creamy glass of water but I think I speak for most people when I say it isn't acceptable.


    Throw the glass into the fridge , decant the clear water , whatever helps curb your child like fussiness.


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    #6968
    Chance The Fapper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 628 ✭✭✭Chance The Fapper


    papu wrote: »
    Throw the glass into the fridge , decant the clear water , whatever helps curb your child like fussiness.

    Have a chat with yourself


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    #6969
    BoJack Horseman
    Registered Users Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    EazyD wrote: »
    You might be one to enjoy a creamy glass of water but I think I speak for most people when I say it isn't acceptable.

    Mmmm..... Creamy water.
    Goes down smooth!


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    #6970
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    papu wrote: »
    Throw the glass into the fridge , decant the clear water , whatever helps curb your child like fussiness.

    Expecting water to look like water, and not a glass of milk is childlike fussiness.

    Jesus wept.


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    #6971
    papu
    Registered Users Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭papu


    Banjo String wrote: »
    Expecting water to look like water, and not a glass of milk is childlike fussiness.

    Jesus wept.

    Crying over excess calcium, because of natural processes?


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    #6972
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    papu wrote: »
    Crying over excess calcium, because of natural processes?

    If you where in a bar and you asked for a water, and that was poured for you, would you pay for it?


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    #6973
    DamagedTrax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,277 ✭✭✭DamagedTrax


    papu wrote: »
    Crying over excess calcium, because of natural processes?

    over calcification has some (albeit weak) links to cardiovascular problems in men. but it has stronger links to the onset of eczema in children.

    i have no idea of what levels need to be present for those dangers to be a consideration but it goes to show, hard water is not 100% safe.


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    #6974
    Barely There
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    EazyD wrote: »
    So you would have no problem paying for that glass of water which I posted on the previous page?

    None at all if it complies with the EU standard.

    Why would you?


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    #6975
    Cantona's Collars
    Registered Users Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    papu wrote: »
    Crying over excess calcium, because of natural processes?

    Tell that to the people who spend fortunes getting treatment kits or replacing wrecked appliances.

    IW told the people of Sth. Wexford that treating the water is not their problem,they want money for the water so imo it is their problem.


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    #6976
    Barely There
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    zerks wrote: »
    Tell that to the people who spend fortunes getting treatment kits or replacing wrecked appliances.

    IW told the people of Sth. Wexford that treating the water is not their problem,they want money for the water so imo it is their problem.

    You opinion won't count for much if the water complies with EU standards I'm afraid.


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    #6977
    Going Forward
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,224 ✭✭✭Going Forward


    Barely There wrote: »
    You opinion won't count for much if the water complies with EU standards I'm afraid.

    If the product supplied is damaging appliances, consumer regulations may apply and recourse should be sought.

    That was the opinion of a barrister interviewed by Sean O Rourke about a year ago.

    I'm not sure how it would fare, but if IW refuse to address the problem, refusing to pay for such water would be the first step in the process.


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    #6978
    Barely There
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    Going Forward wrote: »
    but if IW refuse to address the problem, refusing to pay for such water would be the first step in the process.

    If the water complies with EU standard, there's simply no problem for them to address.


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    #6979
    BoJack Horseman
    Registered Users Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    Going Forward wrote: »
    If the product supplied is damaging appliances, consumer regulations may apply and recourse should be sought.

    That was the opinion of a barrister interviewed by Sean O Rourke about a year ago.

    Hard water areas are not exempt from paying.... I don't think that's the case in other countries either.

    Calgon ftw.


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    #6980
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Going Forward wrote: »
    If the product supplied is damaging appliances, consumer regulations may apply and recourse should be sought.

    That was the opinion of a barrister interviewed by Sean O Rourke about a year ago.

    I'm not sure how it would fare, but if IW refuse to address the problem, refusing to pay for such water would be the first step in the process.

    If that was the case then why haven't the local authorities been held responsibility in the past? IW didn't invent hard water.


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    #6981
    Going Forward
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,224 ✭✭✭Going Forward


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    If that was the case then why haven't the local authorities been held responsibility in the past?

    I don't know if it was ever pursued TBH.
    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    IW didn't invent hard water.
    No, but they'll be billing people for it.
    And it's damaging appliances.


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    #6982
    Anatom
    Registered Users Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭Anatom


    Going Forward wrote: »
    I don't know if it was ever pursued TBH.


    No, but they'll be billing people for it.
    And it's damaging appliances.

    People have tried to take cases to LAs before but, as long as the water complies with the EU regulations (and limescale doesn't breach those regs) then the LA or now IW have no case to answer.

    Simply put, limescale is a natural occurrence and although it does damage appliances over time, it is the householders' problem.

    Tough though it may be, that's the truth.


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    #6983
    Barely There
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    Going Forward wrote: »

    No, but they'll be billing people for it.
    And it's damaging appliances.

    If it's such an issue for you, why didn't you do something about it before now?


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    #6984
    Chance The Fapper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 628 ✭✭✭Chance The Fapper


    Barely There wrote: »
    If it's such an issue for you, why didn't you do something about it before now?

    How do you know what he did or didn't do?

    Either way, there's a difference between getting a free inadequate service, and having to pay for inadequate service.


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    #6985
    Barely There
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    Chance The Fapper wrote: »
    How do you know what he did or didn't do?.
    He can't have done much if it's still a problem.
    Chance The Fapper wrote: »
    Either way, there's a difference between getting a free inadequate service, and having to pay for inadequate service
    .

    You don't pay taxes I assume.


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    #6986
    EazyD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭EazyD


    papu wrote: »
    Throw the glass into the fridge , decant the clear water , whatever helps curb your child like fussiness.

    Calling me "fussy" for expecting normal clean water from my taps is a bit much. When you pay for a product you expect a certain level of quality, which in this case I'm not getting.


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    #6987
    EazyD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭EazyD


    Barely There wrote: »
    He can't have done much if it's still a problem.



    You don't pay taxes I assume.

    Why would you make such an assumption? Not exactly justified is it?


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    #6988
    Going Forward
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,224 ✭✭✭Going Forward


    Barely There wrote: »
    If it's such an issue for you, why didn't you do something about it before now?

    I'd be interested in knowing why you're so protective of Irish Water and so dismissive of the public experiencing problems with the product?


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    #6989
    Andy From Sligo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,799 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    Meanwhile Nestlé want to Privatise water across the world...

    http://youtu.be/SEFL8ElXHaU


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    #6990
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Chance The Fapper wrote: »
    How do you know what he did or didn't do?

    Either way, there's a difference between getting a free inadequate service, and having to pay for inadequate service
    Barely There wrote: »



    You don't pay taxes I assume.

    .

    I think it's been demonstrated enough times by now, everyone pays taxes in some form or another.

    Nice to see some sort of acceptance that we're being asked to pay for water twice though.


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    #6991
    EazyD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭EazyD


    Going Forward wrote: »
    I'd be interested in knowing why you're so protective of Irish Water and so dismissive of the public experiencing problems with the product?

    I've gotten that exact vibe off a number of particular posters. A quick glance at post histories says it all.


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