***ALL THINGS IRISH WATER/WATER CHARGE RELATED POST HERE***

youllbemine

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donvito99

twowheelsgood wrote: »

Er, our public representatives surely?

But it's not like those arrogant, fascist, nazi, corrupt, sell out, west Brit clowns elected by the people are in any way representative of them... :rolleyes::D:D

sonofenoch

In Lonesome Dove wrote: »

I'm just of the phone from family living abroad in Australia and Canada. Some of them are on Facebook and from their Facebook feeds, they are kinda glued in to events happening here at home. Anyways I told them that I was out protesting against water charges in the rain and got soaked. They had a great laugh at that news but gave support too and one of them said 'it's about time the Irish are rising'.

Are you sure they didn't say it's about time the Irish are paying......everyone else does

donvito99

yipeeeee wrote: »

Should have just burned the bond holders when sinn fein told us, none of this would be happening now.

Yeah, 'cos the bondholders were the ones demanding a tax on water.

twowheelsgood

donvito99 wrote: »

But it's not like those arrogant, fascist, nazi, corrupt, sell out, west Brit clowns elected by the people are in any way representative of them... :rolleyes::D:D

Not too worry. I'm sure FreeTV's assassins are assembling as we speak to sort them out. :P

cajonlardo

sonofenoch wrote: »

Are you sure they didn't say it's about time the Irish are paying......everyone else does

about taking bribes from Dirty Denis because F.G do?

Beaner1

Beaner1 wrote: »

Look at them. These are the dregs of society. Throw in the unnecessary triclours and the average person will want nothing to do with them.

They look like average adults and children.

You should really stop trying to troll, you're not very good at it.

sonofenoch

cajonlardo wrote: »

about taking bribes from Dirty Denis because F.G do?

That too probably....but everyone else in the EU pays for water, in the UK they've been paying since the 80's

Heroditas

In Lonesome Dove wrote: »

I'm just of the phone from family living abroad in Australia and Canada. Some of them are on Facebook and from their Facebook feeds, they are kinda glued in to events happening here at home. Anyways I told them that I was out protesting against water charges in the rain and got soaked. They had a great laugh at that news but gave support too and one of them said 'it's about time the Irish are rising'.

Will they show their support via refusing to pay their own water charges?

donvito99

lanos wrote: »

the opinion polls would suggest otherwise

BTW do you think Mary Lou McDonald has ever handled an Armalite
what about Aengus Ó Snodaigh
or Pearse Doherty
or Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin
or Peadar Tóibín

this is the real face of Sinn Fein
professional educated candidates without self-interest motivating them

now don't bother mentioning ferris, adams or mcGuinnesss even
these are dinosaurs and won't be relevant soon.

Gerry Adams said in 1994 that he wasn't a career politician, and yet he upped sticks and moved south to sit in Leinster House as Úachtaráin SF. If any of the SF TDs you mentioned had any guile or interest in the governing of the 26 counties they wouldn't stand for Adams and all his baggage, harmful to their new, mainstream cause. But SF still has the unrealistic fetish with the 32 counties and is in many moderate sympathetic socialist eyes as being unelectable.

Bongalongherb

sonofenoch wrote: »

That too probably....but everyone else in the EU pays for water, in the UK they've been paying since the 80's

If all the other countries of the EU said Hey, we are all going to jump-off this mountain and kill ourselves, do you think we should follow them ?. Who cares that the rest of the EU countries pay for water, we already pay for it and have done for decades. So what's your point.

tayto lover

dxhound2005 wrote: »

The RNU in Dundalk are the main organisers of water protests. Only people know what sort of characters they are and meter installation continues locally without interruption. They have an inflated senses of their own importance.

Even when the government offers the pensioners money to buy chickens and turkeys they are not happy.

http://www.republicanunity.org/rnu-congratulate-people-of-dundalk-on-mass-protest-against-water-taxes/

Their response was to continue to insult the intelligence of the Irish people, by throwing crumbs at us under the guise of the recent budget. Their belief that reinstating a poultry Christmas bonus for Social welfare recipients would outweigh the introduction of this unfair and unjust tax

I am not a member of any organisation and was at today's march in Dundalk.
That RNU statement was not made from the platform in fairness so you are making a very unfair claim by implying that it was and as such doing a very underhand job of trying to contaminate many of the decent law-abiding and hard working ctizens of Dundalk who attended the protest.

twowheelsgood

Bongalongherb wrote: »

If all the other countries of the EU said Hey, we are all going to jump-off this mountain and kill ourselves, do you think we should follow them ?. Who cares that the rest of the EU countries pay for water, we already pay for it and have done for decades. So what's your point.

Of course we should blindly follow what any other country does. But if we are going to do things a different way surely we should make the argument as to why we are right and they are all wrong.

donvito99

Bongalongherb wrote: »

If all the other countries of the EU said Hey, we are all going to jump-off this mountain and kill ourselves, do you think we should follow them ?. Who cares that the rest of the EU countries pay for water, we already pay for it and have done for decades. So what's your point.

Hey, if all other countries in the EU have abortions on demand, do you think we should follow them?

sonofenoch

Bongalongherb wrote: »

If all the other countries of the EU said Hey, we are all going to jump-off this mountain and kill ourselves, do you think we should follow them ?. Who cares that the rest of the EU countries pay for water, we already pay for it and have done for decades. So what's your point.

They probably say the same... the fact of the matter is the majority will pay these charges whether right or wrong, they're not going away no matter how hard you stamp your feet......and for those who don't and for those again who are singled out for it who else is going to pay your fines or do your prison time? aside from the masses declaring it a disgrace you'll be on your own

dxhound2005

tayto lover wrote: »

I am not a member of any organisation and was at today's march in Dundalk.
That RNU statement was not made from the platform in fairness so you are making a very unfair claim by implying that it was and as such doing a very underhand job of trying to contaminate many of the decent law-abiding and hard working ctizens of Dundalk who attended the protest.

In my understanding of law abiding you have to abide by the law. Even if it a new law from a government which you oppose.

Bongalongherb

donvito99 wrote: »

Hey, if all other countries in the EU have abortions on demand, do you think we should follow them?

You are off topic. The abortion thread is elsewhere.

tayto lover

dxhound2005 wrote: »

In my understanding of law abiding you have to abide by the law. Even if it a new law from a government which you oppose.

Are you still saying that statement was made from the platform or not?
If not then correct it. You do a disservice to many people by implying that todays protest in Dundalk was organised and run by Sf and RNU. The people I was with were working men from the locality and not affiliated to any group.

Neamhshuntasach

Larry Wildman wrote: »

I saw the march on the quays today.

First of all, the number were small relative to what was expected (3,000 to 5,000 I'd say).

Second of all, it was not what you'd call a disparate group. Everybody looked lower working class. Nobody looked like they had a job. There were a lot of people waving Dublin GAA flags. I saw no professional or middle class people at all. But then they work Monday to Friday to pay for those who were marching to live their lives...

Ha if you only you knew. Me and my 2 mates that were there have probably earned more money than you and you entire family will earn in your lives.

If your crowd size judgement is up there with your ignorance i'd say you're spot on with your 3000 to 5000 estimate.

donvito99

gladrags wrote: »

You have not answered the q.

But you don't need to.

Thats your choice.

I did. Today's protest - while mightily impressive and the best way to go about getting things changed - isn't representative.

Bongalongherb wrote: »

You are off topic. The abortion thread is elsewhere.

Your reasoning was woeful and I pointed that out to you. Nice to see it got the desired effect.

sammy37

sonofenoch wrote: »

That too probably....but everyone else in the EU pays for water, in the UK they've been paying since the 80's

Cant compare one countrys taxes to another cos if that was the case why dont they scrap the USC charge, have a free health service , no bin charges and low motor taxes just like the UK.

Beaner1

Neamhshuntasach wrote: »

Ha if you only you knew. Me and my 2 mates that were there have probably earned more money than you and you entire family will earn in your lives.

If your crowd size judgement is up there with your ignorance i'd say you're spot on with your 3000 to 5000 estimate.

Dealer?

gladrags

dxhound2005 wrote: »

In my understanding of law abiding you have to abide by the law. Even if it a new law from a government which you oppose.

Unbelieveable.

Bongalongherb

donvito99 wrote: »

I did. Today's protest - while mightily impressive and the best way to go about getting things changed - isn't representative.



Your reasoning was woeful and I pointed that out to you. Nice to see it got the desired effect.

I see the furious anger of attacks on posters are still going on here. If that is all you have to say, then welcome to my ignore list.

donvito99

Bongalongherb wrote: »

I see the furious anger of attacks on posters are still going on here. If that is all you have to say, then welcome to my ignore list.

If you can't field an argument then by all means use that obscure feature.

frazzledhome

I wonder did any if the protesters think to put a barrel under a down pipe before they went.

I suppose not with the free water in the tap. The water they're entitled to that costs nothing to get to the tap

Grandpa Hassan

Question for those marching: what happens now? What do you think the government will actually do in response?

donvito99

They'll put a tax on air next, Joe!

Smidge

dxhound2005 wrote: »

In my understanding of law abiding you have to abide by the law. Even if it a new law from a government which you oppose.

“One has not only a legal, but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.”

Martin Luther King said that

Beaner1

Smidge wrote: »

“One has not only a legal, but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.”

Martin Luther King said that

Who decides what is just? Consensus? Well that says we have a just law. Next.