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    #812
    pc7
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,121 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Smidge wrote: »
    So where exactly did IW get all of these details then?

    I don't know but mine was addressed to me and inside it had the details of my main residence and a property I own that's rented out, this makes me believe Revenue gave them the details from my income tax returns or something. It can't have been the local council as houses in different council areas. Will be contacting my tenants to see if their pack included my main residence details that is a huge breech if it's happened (IMO)


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    #813
    R P McMurphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭R P McMurphy


    rameire wrote: »
    could be from here

    The Register of Electors
    section of page
    The Electoral Register and direct marketing

    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/government_in_ireland/elections_and_referenda/voting/registering_to_vote.html

    In my case they didn't get it from there. I think it has to be the lpt.


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    #814
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    Got mine on Friday, sent it back this morning by registered post with a note attached explaining that I will not be entering any contract with them.

    €180 million to set up.

    €55k for a gym.

    €7k bonuses on the way for staff..

    They can f*** right off, I won't be paying to line a certain 'tax non dom's' pockets.......


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    #815
    Hitchens
    Registered Users Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭Hitchens


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    Got mine on Friday, sent it back this morning by registered post with a note attached explaining that I will not be entering any contract with them.

    €180 million to set up.

    €55k for a gym.

    €7k bonuses on the way for staff..

    They can f*** right off, I won't be paying to line a certain 'tax non dom's' pockets.......
    typical priest..............:D


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    #816
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 21,021 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    Got mine on Friday, sent it back this morning by registered post with a note attached explaining that I will not be entering any contract with them.

    €180 million to set up.

    €55k for a gym.

    €7k bonuses on the way for staff..

    They can f*** right off, I won't be paying to line a certain 'tax non dom's' pockets.......

    Why not go the whole way and get them to disconnect your house from their supply? Then you can make your own contract with an alternative supplier.


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    #817
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Why not go the whole way and get them to disconnect your house from their supply? Then you can make your own contract with an alternative supplier.

    I have been paying all my working life through my taxes.

    BTW, if only there was another 'supplier', talk about a monopoly......I'm sure there's some european law against that...


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    #818
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    When eventually the water services in this banana republic are privatised, which they will be, and the service is far worse than it is, don't say you weren't warned.


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    #819
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 21,021 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    When eventually the water services in this banana republic are privatised, which they will be, and the service is far worse than it is, don't say you weren't warned.

    You really should drill a private well. The Freemen who told you to write No Contract on the form are leading you astray. You will have to pay if you want to keep using the mains water.


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    #820
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    You really should drill a private well. The Freemen who told you to write No Contract on the form are leading you astray. You will have to pay if you want to keep using the mains water.

    There's not a chance of them even finding my water main, they couldn't prove I'm on it if they tried.



    The joys of living in the country.....


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    #821
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 21,021 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    There's not a chance of them even finding my water main, they couldn't prove I'm on it if they tried.



    The joys of living in the country.....

    I hear they have set up a special team to track down the Freemen who send them back forms with No Contract. And they will be passing over those details to the Revenue for special checks on all their tax affairs. Big Phil ordered that before he went to Brussels.


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    #822
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    Anyway, I'll have some fun with them as we go along.

    You guys pay up as much as you like, I'll look after myself.


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    #823
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    You really should drill a private well. The Freemen who told you to write No Contract on the form are leading you astray.

    It always comes back to the 'Freemen' when govt supporters run out of argument such a lazy response very predictable too.

    As for leading people astray, who was it told us the lpt would be used for local services?

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/490m-meant-for-local-services-diverted-to-irish-water-255608.html

    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    You will have to pay ( again) if you want to keep using the mains water.

    Fyp.


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    #824
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    I hear they have set up a special team to track down the Freemen who send them back forms with No Contract. And they will be passing over those details to the Revenue for special checks on all their tax affairs. Big Phil ordered that before he went to Brussels.

    Aaaaah 'special checks', they can check up on me as much as they want to, they can do an audit if they like.

    Just received my TCC for the next 12 months, 2013 liability paid in full and 2014 preliminary fully up to date as are all VAT returns.


    I don't mess with revenue......


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    #825
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 21,021 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    Aaaaah 'special checks', they can check up on me as much as they want to, they can do an audit if they like.

    Just received my TCC for the next 12 months, 2013 liability paid in full and 2014 preliminary fully up to date as are all VAT returns.


    I don't mess with revenue......

    TV licence inspector and dog warden will be round soon. I'd be very disappointed in your Freeman credentials if you are paying for these.


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    #826
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    BTW, when they sent out their pack they sent it to my wife, in her maiden name even though we've been married for nearly 15 years.....

    Where do these muppets get their info?

    They can summon me or her to court and it'll be laughed out of it....


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    #827
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    TV licence inspector and dog warden will be round soon. I'd be very disappointed in your Freeman credentials if you are paying for these.

    ROTFL, how desperate are you now......


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    #828
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 21,021 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    BTW, when they sent out their pack they sent it to my wife, in her maiden name even though we've been married for nearly 15 years.....

    Where do these muppets get their info?

    They can summon me or her to court and it'll be laughed out of it....

    She is bleesed amongst women.


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    #829
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    You do know, dxhound, that revenue are not in the business of collecting debts for private or semi private companies don't you?
    That threat is so hollow it's laughable.


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    #830
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    She is bleesed amongst women.

    Explain?


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    #831
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 21,021 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    You do know, dxhound, that revenue are not in the business of collecting debts for private or semi private companies don't you?
    That threat is so hollow it's laughable.

    I just made it up for a laugh, glad you appreciate it. The Freemen who told you to write No Contract are just making up stuff as well, gives me a good laugh.


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    #832
    Greenmachine
    Registered Users Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    Letter arrived in my shared hallway. With the street address and a name that does not correspond to the landlord or anyone working in the shop below or living in any of the flats in my building.
    No idea how one can possibly proceed or how much I might be expected to pay considering there is no meter.


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    #833
    mikeym
    Registered Users Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭mikeym


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    I hear they have set up a special team to track down the Freemen who send them back forms with No Contract. And they will be passing over those details to the Revenue for special checks on all their tax affairs. Big Phil ordered that before he went to Brussels.

    Big Phil also said that Irish Water can cut down the pressure to a trickle if the bill payer doesnt pay up.

    But what he said was unconstitutional because the UN have declared water a human right meaning that you wont get cut off.

    Thats Big Phil for you and now he has a cushy job in Brussels.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10797988


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    #834
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    I just made it up for a laugh, glad you appreciate it. The Freemen who told you to write No Contract are just making up stuff as well, gives me a good laugh.

    I didn't write 'No contract'
    I wrote to tell them that I don't consent to enter into a contract with them.

    Tell me this, would you enter into a legally binding contract with a company for a service that you're not sure of and where you were not given a contract price?


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    #835
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 21,021 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    I didn't write 'No contract'
    I wrote to tell them that I don't consent to enter into a contract with them.

    Tell me this, would you enter into a legally binding contract with a company for a service that you're not sure of and where you were not given a contract price?

    Under what legally binding contract are you receiving a supply of potable water at present?


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    #836
    mynameismud
    Registered Users Posts: 45 ✭mynameismud


    I welcome water charges.

    Like the rest of the pro side i'm happy to see that the old,the disabled,the sick,the poor and the unemployed will be paying their share.Means I have to pay less tax in the future

    Friends and family in the Public sector are happy with the charges also,the way they see it is if there is more tax raised the better the chances they have of having some of their pay cuts restored.

    Not a hope in hell they are getting my PPS number though.


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    #837
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    In other news, I see the SF motion to reduce the lpt by 15% has been passed by Dublin city council, South County Dublin council and by Wicklow council this evening.


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    #838
    Mrs Garth Brooks
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,865 ✭✭✭Mrs Garth Brooks


    Banjo String wrote: »
    In other news, I see the SF motion to reduce the lpt by 15% has been passed by Dublin city council, South County Dublin council and by Wicklow council this evening.

    Just Dublin?


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    #839
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Under what legally binding contract are you receiving a supply of potable water at present?

    That's not the point, there is no contract because there is nobody to have a contract with.

    Answer my question though, would you enter a contract with a company for a service when you haven't been told how much that service will cost you?

    A yes or no will do.


    Meantime, I'd suggest that you brush up on contract law.


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    #840
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Mrs Garth Brooks wrote: »
    Just Dublin?

    Dublin city, south county and Wicklow.

    That was tonight. Cork did earlier in the year also.

    Also, Labour voted against the cuts on Dublin city motion, working mans party lol.


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    #841
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users Posts: 28,861 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    mynameismud wrote: »
    I welcome water charges.

    Like the rest of the pro side i'm happy to see that the old,the disabled,the sick,the poor and the unemployed will be paying their share.Means I have to pay less tax in the future

    Friends and family in the Public sector are happy with the charges also,the way they see it is if there is more tax raised the better the chances they have of having some of their pay cuts restored.

    Not a hope in hell they are getting my PPS number though.

    Ya reckon? I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you...

    USC was supposed to be a "temporary" charge yet they're in no rush to end that one.

    At best it'll be a "neutral" charge - what they take off in water bills they'll "give back" in a tax cut, but given how many seem to have fallen for the spin on this whole mess, the same people will probably think it's a great deal.


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