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    #1892
    Phoebas
    Registered Users Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    Is there a device or app that can read my water meter without me having to physically go to the meter.

    Laziness I know, but it is a pain in the arse having to pry open the lid, take out the foam, peer down in to the hole and read the number - 1st world propblem I know!
    Don't think there is - short of installing a secondary meter yourself.


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    #1893
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    sammy37 wrote: »
    So am i reading this right that whether i conserve water or leave the tap running 24/7 for the first 9 months i will pay the same amount or am i missing something here ?

    Its even better than that.

    If too many people conserve water and the expected revenue falls below the threshold, the government will increase the cost per unit of water!

    Got to get those taxes in to pay our Troika masters!


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    #1894
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    Daith wrote: »
    Don't you need an application and PIN? I guess you could ring up and ask for it maybe.

    But they are the suppliers. I resent paying on the double as it is. Im not about to assist them.


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    #1895
    Daith
    Registered Users Posts: 4,955 ✭✭✭Daith


    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    But they are the suppliers. I resent paying on the double as it is. Im not about to assist them.

    Well your house is going to be charged anyway :/


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    #1896
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Its nice to read so many compliant people willing to pay for extra taxes.

    I wonder if the government introduced an Air Tax how many would be willing to pay for that too?


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    #1897
    Barely There
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Got to get those taxes in to pay our Troika masters!

    Yep, nothing to do with our budget deficit.


    rabble, rabble, rabble.


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    #1898
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    Daith wrote: »
    Well your house is going to be charged anyway :/

    Thats called having your cake and eating it for Irish water. I will pay for what i use. They are the suppliers, they have already spent a fortune and yet seem incapable of getting their job done.
    Yes Im playing silly buggers here but my objection is not particulary about water rates but about the shoddy, murky, unfair, unequal ****ed up set up.
    If i were to pay for actual usage my bill would be well short of the 'estimates' as i conserve like a mad yoke and have harvesting down to a fine art. Screw em. Im not co-operating or helping them as they dont have their house in order...or mine!!!


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    #1899
    sammy37
    Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭sammy37


    Daith wrote: »
    No. If your water usage exceeds the assessed charge then it will be capped. If you conserve and it's less than the assessed charge you will pay less.

    Thanks thats makes more sense but i can still leave the tap on 24/7 and know that i will only pay a certain amount which kind of defeats the purpose of conserving water.
    Could someone tell me if this 278 euro cap charge for two adults does that include waste water out or not as i have a septic tank or will i be halve that figure.


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    #1900
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Its even better than that.

    If too many people conserve water and the expected revenue falls below the threshold, the government will increase the cost per unit of water!

    Got to get those taxes in to pay our Troika masters!

    Does anyone at this stage think that the set up of this super quango has anything to do with conserving or making better use of our water?
    Seriously???? Only the most DELUDED could or would think that.
    The super quango has one purpose and one purpose only, to screw the Irish people for money and in doing so be made look profitable so it can be sold off to 'tax non dom' himself at a knock down rate. It's another blueshirt scam, much like a phone license........

    The question that should be asked is why FG continue to bow down in front of this guy? When FG had a £1.3 million party debt, who paid it off?


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    #1901
    geeksauce
    Closed Accounts Posts: 826 ✭✭✭geeksauce


    What I don't understand is how easy it would be for Irish Water to ensure everyone returns their forms. All they have to say is IW are now supplying your water from the 1st October, if you wish to receive this water complete and return the packs straight away, if no pack is received from you we will assume you do not wish to be a customer of IW and will disconnect your supply to ensure you are not billed.

    That would solve everything in about a minute, sign up to be a customer and receive water don't sign up and you are declaring you don't want to be supplied with water.


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    #1902
    Daith
    Registered Users Posts: 4,955 ✭✭✭Daith


    geeksauce wrote: »
    What I don't understand is how easy it would be for Irish Water to ensure everyone returns their forms. All they have to say is IW are now supplying your water from the 1st October, if you wish to receive this water complete and return the packs straight away, if no pack is received from you we will assume you do not wish to be a customer of IW and will disconnect your supply to ensure you are not billed.

    That would solve everything in about a minute, sign up to be a customer and receive water don't sign up and you are declaring you don't want to be supplied with water.

    Not really because it remains to be seen just how easily they can disconnect your supply especially in the case of apartment blocks.

    Irish Water don't want to disconnect people. They want to charge people and disconnect would be a last resort.


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    #1903
    Barely There
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    Does anyone at this stage think that the set up of this super quango has anything to do with conserving or making better use of our water?
    Seriously???? Only the most DELUDED could or would think that.
    The super quango has one purpose and one purpose only, to screw the Irish people for money and in doing so be made look profitable so it can be sold off to 'tax non dom' himself at a knock down rate. It's another blueshirt scam, much like a phone license........


    funny how these kind of posters have always got a reason to justify trying to weasel out of paying their taxes.

    It's not that they'd rather freeload off the rest of us - of course not.

    They're a principled bunch standing up for the Irish people by not paying their tax, don't-cha know.:rolleyes:


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    #1904
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,557 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    Does anyone at this stage think that the set up of this super quango has anything to do with conserving or making better use of our water?
    Seriously???? Only the most DELUDED could or would think that.
    The super quango has one purpose and one purpose only, to screw the Irish people for money and in doing so be made look profitable so it can be sold off to 'tax non dom' himself at a knock down rate. It's another blueshirt scam, much like a phone license........

    Do you have a quota of how many times a day that you have to repeat those words? Do you manually type them EVERY time or do you use the copy/paste function?


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    #1905
    geeksauce
    Closed Accounts Posts: 826 ✭✭✭geeksauce


    Daith wrote: »
    Not really because it remains to be seen just how easily they can disconnect your supply especially in the case of apartment blocks.

    Apartment blocks aside they could easily disconnect a supply, it happens to businesses all the time.


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    #1906
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    What I don't understand is how council employees are posting on an internet board during office hours.


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    #1907
    Leroy42
    Registered Users Posts: 15,635 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    geeksauce wrote: »
    What I don't understand is how easy it would be for Irish Water to ensure everyone returns their forms. All they have to say is IW are now supplying your water from the 1st October, if you wish to receive this water complete and return the packs straight away, if no pack is received from you we will assume you do not wish to be a customer of IW and will disconnect your supply to ensure you are not billed.

    That would solve everything in about a minute, sign up to be a customer and receive water don't sign up and you are declaring you don't want to be supplied with water.

    Because then you would have loads of people complaining that their human rights are being ignored, access to water etc.

    That should have been the case, but as with everything we end up trying to find the least troublesome arrangement with inevitably is the worst option


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    #1908
    geeksauce
    Closed Accounts Posts: 826 ✭✭✭geeksauce


    Barely There wrote: »
    funny how these kind of posters have always got a reason to justify trying to weasel out of paying their taxes.

    It's not that they'd rather freeload off the rest of us - of course not.

    They're a principled bunch standing up for the Irish people by not paying their tax, don't-cha know.:rolleyes:

    I would imagine Fr. Ned will be sending the collection box around Sunday Mass a couple more times from next week.


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    #1909
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,557 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    What I don't understand is how council employees are posting on an internet board during office hours.

    Care to name one? Or just more baseless accusations?


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    #1910
    kneemos
    Registered Users Posts: 20,433 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Anybody mention what happens about who pays for replacing meters?presumably they don't last forever?


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    #1911
    geeksauce
    Closed Accounts Posts: 826 ✭✭✭geeksauce


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    Because then you would have loads of people complaining that their human rights are being ignored, access to water etc.

    That should have been the case, but as with everything we end up trying to find the least troublesome arrangement with inevitably is the worst option

    True, I do think we are far too nice as a nation, both the public and government, god forbid they actually upset somebody by telling them they need to declare their interest in receiving water from the new state water supplier. No declaration no water.


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    #1912
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    Barely There wrote: »
    funny how these kind of posters have always got a reason to justify trying to weasel out of paying their taxes.

    It's not that they'd rather freeload off the rest of us - of course not.

    They're a principled bunch standing up for the Irish people by not paying their tax, don't-cha know.:rolleyes:

    You do know what 'tax non domicile' means, don't you?
    You know, like the blueshirts buddy who gets phone license's, water meter contracts, debts written off at our expense etc etc etc.....


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    #1913
    Daith
    Registered Users Posts: 4,955 ✭✭✭Daith


    geeksauce wrote: »
    Apartment blocks aside they could easily disconnect a supply, it happens to businesses all the time.

    Probably but it would be a last resort. They want you to pay first.


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    #1914
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Care to name one? Or just more baseless accusations?

    Is it Wexford county council or Waterford county council??? I can't quite remember......


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    #1915
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,557 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    Is it Wexford county council or Waterford county council??? I can't quite remember......

    So just baseless accusations as usual? Thought so :rolleyes:


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    #1916
    sammy37
    Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭sammy37


    geeksauce wrote: »
    What I don't understand is how easy it would be for Irish Water to ensure everyone returns their forms. All they have to say is IW are now supplying your water from the 1st October, if you wish to receive this water complete and return the packs straight away, if no pack is received from you we will assume you do not wish to be a customer of IW and will disconnect your supply to ensure you are not billed.

    That would solve everything in about a minute, sign up to be a customer and receive water don't sign up and you are declaring you don't want to be supplied with water.

    Dont know what to say to this really but its a case of i am alright jack to hell with the rest.Now i know there are people who wont pay for anything but there is also genuine people out there who cannot afford this bill and i know some myself and whats your brilliant idea -deprive them of water a basic human right.Hope everything continues rosy in your garden anyway.


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    #1917
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    So just baseless accusations as usual? Thought so :rolleyes:

    PM's are great things for finding out who's who on here.....


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    #1918
    geeksauce
    Closed Accounts Posts: 826 ✭✭✭geeksauce


    Daith wrote: »
    Probably but it would be a last resort. They want you to pay first.

    True, but if somebody declares that they don't want to receive water then just disconnect them, they cant really complain after that and there is no point in IW supplying someone with water when they can be pretty confident payment will be withheld.


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    #1919
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,557 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    PM's are great things for finding out who's who on here.....

    And internet anonymity is a great way to make baseless accusations to muddy the debate.


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    #1920
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    geeksauce wrote: »
    What I don't understand is how easy it would be for Irish Water to ensure everyone returns their forms. All they have to say is IW are now supplying your water from the 1st October, if you wish to receive this water complete and return the packs straight away, if no pack is received from you we will assume you do not wish to be a customer of IW and will disconnect your supply to ensure you are not billed.

    That would solve everything in about a minute, sign up to be a customer and receive water don't sign up and you are declaring you don't want to be supplied with water.

    Lol. They expect 80%to be metered by the end of 2016.

    You're advocating they spend even more of the cash provided to them disconnecting homes?

    Without customers, they fail, they bankrupt themselves.


    Your masterplan has a few flaws in it.


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    #1921
    Yawns
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭Yawns


    So as I'm in an umetered apartment, I could just fill in the form for myself only and not bother with the kids pps numbers as no meter means no point looking for allowances.


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