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***ALL THINGS IRISH WATER/WATER CHARGE RELATED POST HERE***

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    #2702
    geeksauce
    Closed Accounts Posts: 826 ✭✭✭geeksauce


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    And the private sector are subsidising the PS enough too.

    Who subsidises the Church?


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    #2703
    Tony EH
    Registered Users Posts: 19,299 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Technically I would be unemployed.

    I would still be considered in receipt of unemployment benefit/assistance.

    Simply put, your point point is just wrong.


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    #2704
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    geeksauce wrote: »
    Who subsidises the Church?

    Probably the same people who subsidise PS workers.
    Why do you ask?


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    #2705
    Tony EH
    Registered Users Posts: 19,299 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    geeksauce wrote: »
    Right so that answers everything then!!! :rolleyes:

    Good argument there.

    blah blah blah Pacman emoticon

    But you're not saying anything. You're just talking shite and trying to make (frankly awful) jokes.


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    #2706
    geeksauce
    Closed Accounts Posts: 826 ✭✭✭geeksauce


    Tony EH wrote: »
    Technically I would be unemployed.

    I would still be considered in receipt of unemployment benefit/assistance.

    Simply put, your point point is just wrong.

    So if you are employed you are unemployed. Wow this just gets better by the minute.


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    #2707
    eeepaulo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭eeepaulo


    geeksauce wrote: »
    Right so that answers everything then!!! :rolleyes:

    Good argument there.

    blah blah blah Pacman emoticon

    Irish waters cost to set up + the cost to install the meters = 650 million

    (not including the day to day running costs or investments in infrastructure)

    the first bill will take in 300 milion

    where does the difference come from?


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    #2708
    gladrags
    Registered Users Posts: 6,028 ✭✭✭gladrags


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    And the private sector are subsidising the PS enough too.

    And in the end the public sector bailed out the private sector.


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    #2709
    geeksauce
    Closed Accounts Posts: 826 ✭✭✭geeksauce


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    Probably the same people who subsidise PS workers.
    Why do you ask?

    Just wondering, was curious to know, thought a priest would be able to tell me.


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    #2710
    Tony EH
    Registered Users Posts: 19,299 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    geeksauce wrote: »
    So if you are employed you are unemployed. Wow this just gets better by the minute.

    You seem to have a lot of trouble understanding things.


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    #2711
    geeksauce
    Closed Accounts Posts: 826 ✭✭✭geeksauce


    eeepaulo wrote: »
    Irish waters cost to set up + the cost to install the meters = 650 million

    (not including the day to day running costs or investments in infrastructure)

    the first bill will take in 300 milion

    where does the difference come from?

    Do you know I was only wondering the same myself, they say they will cover the costs within two years, but how will they cover the costs of the supply for that two year period.

    If you ask me their numbers don't add up, 300 - 400 million per annum from billing, 1.2billion for provision.


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    #2712
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    geeksauce wrote: »
    So if you are employed you are unemployed. Wow this just gets better by the minute.

    You have heard of jobbridge, haven't you.
    It's a work for your dole thing brought in by the blueshirts/'labour' to massage the unemployment figures.
    There's plenty of people like that working in Local Authorities etc....
    Some would call it slave labour.


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    #2713
    geeksauce
    Closed Accounts Posts: 826 ✭✭✭geeksauce


    Tony EH wrote: »
    You seem to have a lot of trouble understanding things.

    No just you and your nonsensical posts tbh. You don't seem capable of answering questions you have been asked, instead come back with some sort of generic rabble response.


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    #2714
    eeepaulo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭eeepaulo


    geeksauce wrote: »
    Do you know I was only wondering the same myself, they say they will cover the costs within two years, but how will they cover the costs of the supply for that two year period.

    If you ask me their numbers don't add up, 300 - 400 million per annum from billing, 1.2billion for provision.

    We will pay for it through general taxation


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    #2715
    geeksauce
    Closed Accounts Posts: 826 ✭✭✭geeksauce


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    You have heard of jobbridge, haven't you.
    It's a work for your dole thing brought in by the blueshirts/'labour' to massage the unemployment figures.
    There's plenty of people like that working in Local Authorities etc....
    Some would call it slave labour.

    I would call it a scam of the highest order, a great way for companies to get labour for next to nothing and a great way for the government to reduce unemployment figures. But then really what has that got to do with water charges.


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    #2716
    geeksauce
    Closed Accounts Posts: 826 ✭✭✭geeksauce


    eeepaulo wrote: »
    We will pay for it through general taxation

    Yes or direct billing, charges will no doubt rise. I was looking at commercial rates and see at the minute they are being billed €1.21 per 1000 litres, will this be changed does anyone know and brought up to the equivalent of domestic charges.


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    #2717
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    gladrags wrote: »
    And in the end the public sector bailed out the private sector.

    ROTFL.
    The PS/CS forced the private sector to take on bank debt that civil 'servants and dodgy politicians allowed build up, you mean.
    How's that great civil servant who was regulating the dodgy banks getting on with his pension of €143,000 PA and a payoff of €630,000?
    Give it up will ya.


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    #2718
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    gladrags wrote: »
    And in the end the public sector bailed out the private sector.

    Socialise public loss, privatise public asset.

    Have I got it correct?


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    #2719
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,558 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Tony EH wrote: »
    Technically I would be unemployed.

    I would still be considered in receipt of unemployment benefit/assistance.

    Simply put, your point point is just wrong.

    How can you be unemployed if you are in paid employment? You would be receiving jobseekers benefit but you would for all intents and purposes be in paid (but reduced) employement!


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    #2720
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    eeepaulo wrote: »
    We will pay for it through general taxation

    We don't, which is why we have to borrow.


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    #2721
    eeepaulo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭eeepaulo


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    We don't, which is why we have to borrow.

    And that debt will be paid for by general taxation.

    Irish water will not take in enough to cover the billing system over the next 2 years, completely ignoring the actual running costs

    We will make up the difference through tax


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    #2722
    CPSW
    Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭CPSW


    I currently live in rented accommodation (a house), but have not received any registration pack to the house addressed to the resident, nor have seen any water meters being installed in the area. Is anyone else in this situation or know what the craic is or how it’s going to be charged? Sorry if this is a stupid question.

    Cheers


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    #2723
    geeksauce
    Closed Accounts Posts: 826 ✭✭✭geeksauce


    CPSW wrote: »
    I currently live in rented accommodation (a house), but have not received any registration pack to the house addressed to the resident, nor have seen any water meters being installed in the area. Is anyone else in this situation or know what the craic is or how it’s going to be charged? Sorry if this is a stupid question.

    Cheers

    They may have installed the meter already, they don't always have to dig up the path to install them, if you lift the lid of the water supply outside your house you will see if they have installed one yet.

    They installed mine without me noticing, and I only got my pack two days ago so they are still sending them out by the looks of it. You should get one addressed to the occupant if in rented accommodation and if not the landlord will get one and should pass it on. This is the information I got from reading Conor Popes article in the IT yesterday.


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    #2724
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    eeepaulo wrote: »
    And that debt will be paid for by general taxation.

    I know. If we were paying for everything through taxation as it is, we wouldn't have to borrow. Therefore we're currently not funding the running of the country through taxation alone, hence the borrowing.


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    #2725
    gladrags
    Registered Users Posts: 6,028 ✭✭✭gladrags


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    ROTFL.
    The PS/CS forced the private sector to take on bank debt that civil 'servants and dodgy politicians allowed build up, you mean.
    How's that great civil servant who was regulating the dodgy banks getting on with his pension of €143,000 PA and a payoff of €630,000?
    Give it up will ya.

    Cut the waffle on the " I can quote economics,so I knowsewhatisetalkinabout"
    drivel.

    Go talk to your Anglo mates for an explanation,your from the same stock.

    This country was screwed by verywelleducatedindeed parasites and vultures.

    Greed was their motive, sudoeconomics has nothing to do with it.

    Nothing to do with ordnary human beings,the public/private spat is a well known engineered ploy.

    Smoke screen waffle.


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    #2726
    falan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭falan


    geeksauce wrote: »
    No they are using other peoples money to pay taxes they are not paying taxes themselves. Social Welfare recipients are now tax payers, oh the laugh.

    My father is long term sick. He hasn't worked in about 7 or 8 years and is in receipt of social welfare. He pays a lot of tax on medicine.
    People have this misconception that people on social welfare get everything for free inc free houses and everything. The reality is very different.


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    #2727
    geeksauce
    Closed Accounts Posts: 826 ✭✭✭geeksauce


    falan wrote: »
    My father is long term sick. He hasn't worked in about 7 or 8 years and is in receipt of social welfare. He pays a lot of tax on medicine.
    People have this misconception that people on social welfare get everything for free inc free houses and everything. The reality is very different.

    Not talking about the long term sick or those genuinely unable to work, I am talking about the others that have no reasonable excuse for remaining on Social Welfare other than they don't want to work. People such as your father are at risk of having their social welfare cut because of the amount of people on it and the need to reduce the welfare bill, meaning the genuine recipients are being screwed by the others playing the system.


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    #2728
    Recondite49
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Recondite49


    geeksauce wrote: »
    Not talking about the long term sick or those genuinely unable to work, I am talking about the others that have no reasonable excuse for remaining on Social Welfare other than they don't want to work. People such as your father are at risk of having their social welfare cut because of the amount of people on it and the need to reduce the welfare bill, meaning the genuine recipients are being screwed by the others playing the system.

    Ah, the classic right wing fallacy of drawing a distinction between a supposedly deserving and undeserving poor. So old.


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    #2729
    lacco
    Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭lacco


    geeksauce wrote: »
    No its reduced, personally I believe it should be cut off, if people don't want to pay for water then they shouldn't have water its a pretty simple concept. Now if people don't want to pay for water their supply will be reduced giving them enough to live on, just not enough to have numerous showers in one day, fill the kettle a hundred times, leave taps running for no reason, wash cars, water plants etc.

    If people want to continue using as much water as they currently are and continue to have as much pressure in their taps as they currently do then they will have to pay for the privilege.






    WATER IS NOT A PRIVILEGE.

    Resolution 64/292 adopted by UN General assembly on 28th July 2010

    it ' recognizes the right to safe and clean drinking water and sanitation as a human right that is essential for the full enjoyment of the right to life.'


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    #2730
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,558 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    lacco wrote: »
    WATER IS NOT A PRIVILEGE.

    Resolution 64/292 adopted by UN General assembly on 28th July 2010

    it ' recognizes the right to safe and clean drinking water and sanitation as a human right that is essential for the full enjoyment of the right to life.'

    And?


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    #2731
    lacco
    Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭lacco


    falan wrote: »
    My father is long term sick. He hasn't worked in about 7 or 8 years and is in receipt of social welfare. He pays a lot of tax on medicine.
    People have this misconception that people on social welfare get everything for free inc free houses and everything. The reality is very different.

    Many people do understand the circumstances of people like your Dad.It is only a minority of people on here who have a flagrant disregard for humanity.And you are right the reality is very different.


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