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FSA FPL Rate My Team Thread 2014-15

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    I was starting to debate the Debuchy option early when I was looking at my team myself, interesting to see a couple of others picking up on it too.

    Very difficult to hit on the defence now IMO. I think a Chelsea defender plus that Stoke/Swansea rotation would be a very good base, but realistically there's no £4.0m guaranteed starter which makes things harder in terms of the bench. Well, one of the £4.0m Leicester lads will partner Morgan presuming they don't bring anyone else in but none of us know who it will be as of yet.

    Terry, Taylor, Pieters/Huth/Shawcross, a £4.0m + one more might be the way to go. Big question is, who is that one more going to be? Ideally a Manchester United player considering their fixtures, but being honest, no-one knows who will start. If van Gaal would sign Vlaar or Vermalen, that would be much appreciated! :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    manual_man wrote: »
    in a give yet-another-headache to your average Joe fantasy manager kind of way

    It's the game that will see a lot of best laid plans changed. Sanchez doesn't play well people will take him out, Nasri scores 2 people will put him in etc etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    Lemlin wrote: »
    I'm not sure alot of people are understanding "coverage" the way I would. Coverage basically means you try to cover off as many of the best teams with your attacking players as possible. It also means though that you try to have the best scoring player from each team. For example, the team I plan to go with:

    Ramsey Mata Hazard Siggy (Albrighton)
    Jelavic Sturridge Rooney

    In this team I have Arsenal, Chelsea, United and Liverpool "coverage". However, there's no point having Hazard if Fabregas is performing better. I've seen people saying that they'll get "coverage" by having the likes of an Oscar at Chelsea or a Lallana at 'Pool. That to me is not coverage. Coverage is aiming to have the best value player at each club. I can't see that being Lallana or Oscar so they are as pointless to me as having Yannick Bolaise!

    "Coverage" mean that if a club run up a high score you have an attacking player at that club and should gain from this high scoring game. It also means that, if say Hazard isn't performing well, I can swap him fairly easy for the Chelsea mid who is performing well. You can be guaranteed that the top six will always have at least one of their attacking gems performing.

    The funniest thing is you'll see people disagree with "coverage" yet when you look at their team it will consist of a spread of attacking players from the top clubs - exactly what "coverage" is to me.

    That sums up my approach get the most likely points scorer from the most likely to score teams. It also gives you an array of captaincy options.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,264 ✭✭✭✭manual_man


    I'm hereby appointing Yannick Bolasie the new FSA cult hero for 2014/2015. There, i said it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    That sums up my approach get the most likely points scorer from the most likely to score teams. It also gives you an array of captaincy options.

    It does also mean that you have to make the odd sacrifice though. I'd prefer to have Sanchez but I'm happy enough to go with Ramsey because I expect/hope Hazard, Mata, Rooney and Sturridge will all outscore Sanchez and that Ramsey will get there or thereabouts when it comes to his score.

    In pre season all we can do is make our best educated guess. Once the season starts, the wildcard is there to actually get the best performers in.

    We may even surprise ourselves. At the start of last year I didn't expect to have two Liverpool strikers for most of the season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    manual_man wrote: »
    I'm hereby appointing Yannick Bolasie the new FSA cult hero for 2014/2015. There, i said it

    Well "He is a fans favourite due to his direct running, trickery and commitment on the pitch".

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yannick_Bolasie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,557 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Lemlin wrote: »
    I'm not sure alot of people are understanding "coverage" the way I would. Coverage basically means you try to cover off as many of the best teams with your attacking players as possible. It also means though that you try to have the best scoring player from each team. For example, the team I plan to go with:

    Ramsey Mata Hazard Siggy (Albrighton)
    Jelavic Sturridge Rooney

    In this team I have Arsenal, Chelsea, United and Liverpool "coverage". However, there's no point having Hazard if Fabregas is performing better. I've seen people saying that they'll get "coverage" by having the likes of an Oscar at Chelsea or a Lallana at 'Pool. That to me is not coverage. Coverage is aiming to have the best value player at each club. I can't see that being Lallana or Oscar so they are as pointless to me as having Yannick Bolaise!

    "Coverage" means that if a club run up a high score you have an attacking player at that club and should gain from this high scoring game. It also means that, if say Hazard isn't performing well, I can swap him fairly easy for the Chelsea mid who is performing well. You can be guaranteed that the top six will always have at least one of their attacking gems performing.

    The funniest thing is you'll see people disagree with "coverage" yet when you look at their team it will consist of a spread of attacking players from the top clubs - exactly what "coverage" is to me.
    Coverage is merely a coincidence IMO. If the great striker or Michu type comes from West Ham or Sunderland this year, we will all sign them and not worry about if we have a good attacking player from Arsenal.

    It just so happens that the best attack in players are usually signed by the best teams, but whether we have 0, 1 or 2 attacking players from any particular club should not worry us, as long as we have the best front 7 we can have while achieving balance at the same time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,264 ✭✭✭✭manual_man


    Lemlin wrote: »
    Well "He is a fans favourite due to his direct running, trickery and commitment on the pitch".

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yannick_Bolasie

    He's actually a nifty player

    Not to mention his name lends to a lot of punnery

    All aboard the Bolasie Bus/Bandwagon/Brigade/Balloon :confused::confused::D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    CSF wrote: »
    Coverage is merely a coincidence IMO. If the great striker or Michu type comes from West Ham or Sunderland this year, we will all sign them and not worry about if we have a good attacking player from Arsenal.

    It just so happens that the best attack in players are usually signed by the best teams, but whether we have 0, 1 or 2 attacking players from any particular club should not worry us, as long as we have the best front 7 we can have while achieving balance at the same time.

    That great budget striker or midfielder generally fills your 4th midfielder spot or third striker spot though.

    Any season the bulk of your attacking players (generally 3 mids and 2 strikers) will come from the top six clubs. After all, they are the top six clubs because they are scoring alot.

    Look at the forum here, most people are worrying about having one of Ramsey/Sanchez/Ozil/Giroud because we don't need the season to start to know Arsenal should score well. The same with Chelsea, City, Liverpool and United.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,557 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Lemlin wrote: »
    That great budget striker or midfielder generally fills your 4th midfielder spot or third striker spot though.

    Any season the bulk of your attacking players (generally 3 mids and 2 strikers) will come from the top six clubs.

    After all, they are the top six clubs because they are scoring alot.Look at the forum here, most people are worrying about having one of Ramsey/Sanchez/Ozil/Giroud because we don't need the season to start to know Arsenal should score well.
    Are people really considering Ozil?? Are people particularly considering Giroud as anything other than a moneysaver though?

    If someone decided to go for their first 6 games or so with Van Persie, Rooney, Mata (it's a strategy I went with over the 2nd half of last season to great success with Silva, Toure and Aguero/Dzeko) as opposed to Costa, Sturridge and Silva, I don't think they've any particular need to be worried that they've 3 high scoring players from one team rather than 3 from 3 teams (having this coverage thing).

    The key is having the 7 attacking players who will score the highest total while they're in your team, rather than having a good spread of possibly lower performing attacking players.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    Lemlin wrote: »
    It does also mean that you have to make the odd sacrifice though. I'd prefer to have Sanchez but I'm happy enough to go with Ramsey because I expect/hope Hazard, Mata, Rooney and Sturridge will all outscore Sanchez and that Ramsey will get there or thereabouts when it comes to his score.

    In pre season all we can do is make our best educated guess. Once the season starts, the wildcard is there to actually get the best performers in.

    We may even surprise ourselves. At the start of last year I didn't expect to have two Liverpool strikers for most of the season.
    Thats true. I like to have 4/5 expensive big hitters in at the start as it makes it easier to transfer to other big hitters often without a points hit. I can move from sturridge to costa/ aguero fairly easy if need be.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,305 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Prodston


    manual_man wrote: »
    I'm hereby appointing Yannick Bolasie the new FSA cult hero for 2014/2015. There, i said it

    I had another Targett in mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,264 ✭✭✭✭manual_man


    Giroud got 187pts last season. That's a decent haul. As things stand he has to be considered a pretty much nailed-on starter. And he'll be getting service from Sanchez, Ozil, and Ramsey. You'd expect him to bang in a few... underpriced @8.5M if you ask me, he's a definite for my setup starting off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,557 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    manual_man wrote: »
    Giroud got 187pts last season. That's a decent haul. As things stand he has to be considered a pretty much nailed-on starter. And he'll be getting service from Sanchez, Ozil, and Ramsey. You'd expect him to bang in a few... underpriced @8.5M if you ask me, he's a definite for my setup starting off
    I think Sanchez will be as much a negative as a positive for Giroud's haul, particularly when Walcott returns. Early on I don't like Arsenal's fixtures either. It wouldn't hurt me too deep to go early on in the season without an Arsenal player. Obviously Sanchez is the go to guy if I did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    CSF wrote: »
    Are people really considering Ozil?? Are people particularly considering Giroud as anything other than a moneysaver though?

    If someone decided to go for their first 6 games or so with Van Persie, Rooney, Mata (it's a strategy I went with over the 2nd half of last season to great success with Silva, Toure and Aguero/Dzeko) as opposed to Costa, Sturridge and Silva, I don't think they've any particular need to be worried that they've 3 high scoring players from one team rather than 3 from 3 teams (having this coverage thing).

    The key is having the 7 attacking players who will score the highest total while they're in your team, rather than having a good spread of possibly lower performing attacking players.

    I wouldn't consider Ozil myself but I've seen a few mention him. Poor at the end of last season and poor in the WC. Like Aguero, he needs a good month break away from football and training IMO.

    If United are banging in the goals then by all means go for Van Persie, Rooney and Mata but that is tieing up 32 million of your budget and United would want to be banging in the goals. It's still also only three of your front eight attacking players.

    Last season for example there were times when I had Suarez, Sturridge and Gerrard but I also had Yaya (City coverage), Hazard (Chelsea coverage) and usually either Ramsey (Arsenal coverage) or Rooney (United coverage).

    The bottom line is that the bulk of your front 8 players are going to come from "coverage" of the top 5/6 teams. Think back about your team when it's been successful over the last couple of years and you'll realise this.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,810 ✭✭✭✭jimmii


    CSF wrote: »
    Early on I don't like Arsenal's fixtures either. It wouldn't hurt me too deep to go early on in the season without an Arsenal player.

    Yeh I don't think its horrible not to go too crazy for Arsenal for a couple of weeks Palace at home and Everton away is tricky enough and it will give us a chance to see what shape Wenger is thinking about. I would say you could go as far as GW8 if you really wanted to i'm sure Leicester will just set themselves up to try keep it tight and they don't have many other plum fixtures until Hull in GW8. If Ramsey starts to Ramsey though then its worth jumping on early probably!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,810 ✭✭✭✭jimmii


    Lemlin wrote: »
    I wouldn't consider Ozil myself but I've seen a few mention him.

    I haven't considered him either the late return to training would also be a worry initially and Wenger has so many options in midfield he might give Ozil a little extra time than say Merte.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    jimmii wrote: »
    I haven't considered him either the late return to training would also be a worry initially and Wenger has so many options in midfield he might give Ozil a little extra time than say Merte.

    Most Arsenal supporters I know place the blame for his fall off in form squarely at Wenger's feet. It was plain for all to see last season that he needed a break around Xmas.

    The lack of a Christmas break can be a huge problem to players new to the PL like him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,557 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Lemlin wrote: »
    I wouldn't consider Ozil myself but I've seen a few mention him. Poor at the end of last season and poor in the WC. Like Aguero, he needs a good month break away from football and training IMO.

    If United are banging in the goals then by all means go for Van Persie, Rooney and Mata but that is tieing up 32 million of your budget and United would want to be banging in the goals. It's still also only three of your front eight attacking players.

    Last season for example there were times when I had Suarez, Sturridge and Gerrard but I also had Yaya (City coverage), Hazard (Chelsea coverage) and usually either Ramsey (Arsenal coverage) or Rooney (United coverage).

    The bottom line is that the bulk of your front 8 players are going to come from "coverage" of the top 5/6 teams. Think back about your team when it's been successful over the last couple of years and you'll realise this.
    Sometimes it has, sometimes it hasn't. Which is my point. It really doesn't need to be. A team of Gerrard, Silva, Toure, Hazard, Sturridge, Suarez, Aguero was frequently the best team to have last year (I usually had Eriksen or Lallana instead of Gerrard), that's only covering 3 of those teams. Who would have cried that they didn't have an Arsenal, Man United or Tottenham player during the long spells when Rooney, Ramsey and Eriksen weren't strong considerations.

    You go with the player, not the team.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    manual_man wrote: »
    Giroud got 187pts last season. That's a decent haul. As things stand he has to be considered a pretty much nailed-on starter. And he'll be getting service from Sanchez, Ozil, and Ramsey. You'd expect him to bang in a few... underpriced @8.5M if you ask me, he's a definite for my setup starting off

    You have just forced me into a serious rethink.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    CSF wrote: »
    Sometimes it has, sometimes it hasn't. Which is my point. It really doesn't need to be. A team of Gerrard, Silva, Toure, Hazard, Sturridge, Suarez, Aguero was frequently the best team to have last year (I usually had Eriksen or Lallana instead of Gerrard), that's only covering 3 of those teams. Who would have cried that they didn't have an Arsenal, Man United or Tottenham player during the long spells when Rooney, Ramsey and Eriksen weren't strong considerations.

    You go with the player, not the team.

    I think we're looking at the term "coverage" differently to be honest. In my mind the above is still coverage from the top teams because, as you say yourself, the best team to have last year was made up of players from the top six clubs.

    The fact is you're taking the bulk of your attacking players from "coverage" of the top few teams. You're ignoring the other 14 clubs in the league practically.

    What's your own team for the start of the season? Are you going with the 3 United players like above or a "coverage" of players from top teams like myself and most others?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,557 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Lemlin wrote: »
    I think we're looking at the term "coverage" differently to be honest. In my mind the above is still coverage from the top teams because, as you say yourself, the best team to have last year was made up of players from the top six clubs.

    The fact is you're taking the bulk of your attacking players from "coverage" of the top few teams. You're ignoring the other 14 clubs in the league practically.

    What's your own team for the start of the season? Are you going with the 3 United players like above or a "coverage" of players like myself?

    Well we agree on that part, but where does this talk of needing City coverage or Arsenal coverage come from then? It's a nonsense!!!

    Reluctant to post my team here as I know I'm being observed on here by rivals. Does that sound unnecessarily paranoid?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    You have just forced me into a serious rethink.

    I considered Giroud but I remember thinking the same last season when Ozil was first signed and Giroud still failed to deliver.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    Lemlin wrote: »
    I considered Giroud but I remember thinking the same last season when Ozil was first signed and Giroud still failed to deliver.

    Giroud silva mata or dzeko sanchez de jong


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    CSF wrote: »
    Well we agree on that part, but where does this talk of needing City coverage or Arsenal coverage come from then? It's a nonsense!!!

    Reluctant to post my team here as I know I'm being observed on here by rivals. Does that sound unnecessarily paranoid?

    Last season look at the attacking players most people had during the season:

    City - Nasri, Silva, Aguero, Dzeko
    Arsenal - Ramsey, Ozil, Giroud
    United - Rooney, Mata
    Spurs - Eriksen, Ade
    Liverpool - Gerrard, Sterling, Suarez, Sturridge
    Chelsea - Hazard/Oscar

    They are from a "coverage" of the top six clubs. Its generally accepted that at some point during the season you are going to need "coverage" from one of the top six clubs when they are playing well. Can you honestly say you've ever gone a full season in this game without an attacking player from one of that top six? I know I certainly never have. Perhaps Spurs but certainly not the other five.

    The clubs you need "coverage" from will revolve over the course of the season but the simple fact is you'll always have some form of "coverage" from these clubs at points when they are playing well.

    To me to say "coverage" doesn't exist is totally incorrect IMO. I also don't think it would be as widely accepted a philosophy in the game if it didn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭finnharpsboy


    to all my fellow FSA League 1 opponents ill give you all a head start by showing you my team ;);)

    Kspf1in.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,557 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Lemlin wrote: »
    Last season look at the attacking players most people had during the season:

    City - Nasri, Silva, Aguero, Dzeko
    Arsenal - Ramsey, Ozil, Giroud
    United - Rooney, Mata
    Spurs - Eriksen, Ade
    Liverpool - Gerrard, Sterling, Suarez, Sturridge
    Chelsea - Hazard/Oscar

    They are from a "coverage" of the top six clubs. Its generally accepted that at some point during the season you are going to need "coverage" from one of the top six clubs when they are playing well. Can you honestly say you've ever gone a full season in this game without an attacking player from one of that top six? I know I certainly never have. Perhaps Spurs but certainly not the other five.

    The clubs you need "coverage" from will revolve over the course of the season but the simple fact is you'll always have some form of "coverage" from these clubs at points when they are playing well.

    To me to say "coverage" doesn't exist is totally incorrect IMO. I also don't think it would be as widely accepted a philosophy in the game if it didn't.

    You could very easily add Southampton and Everton in there and it becomes 8. Very easily.

    I agree that it's a widely accepted philosophy, I'm still questioning it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Giroud silva mata or dzeko sanchez de jong

    When you put it like that - Giroud, Silva and Mata.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    CSF wrote: »
    You could very easily add Southampton and Everton in there and it becomes 8. Very easily.

    I agree that it's a widely accepted philosophy, I'm still questioning it.

    Not for the last six or seven years you couldn't. The mid table clubs will come and go but the top six generally stay the same (bar when a Sheikh shows up the odd time). United, Arsenal and Chelsea have been top four since god knows when. City since the Sheikh showed up and Liverpool have now joined the club.

    I wouldn't be expecting the same for Southampton this season either! Swansea or Newcastle didn't hang around too long.

    BY the way, you don't need to show your team but you could still answer my question re has your draft team a "coverage" for your front eight from the top six clubs?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭gstack166


    What you think? A bit Newcastle heavy maybe? Really fancy Janmaat & De Jong though! Should I replace Krul? Couldn't go with 3 Newcastle players, especially with City first up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,205 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    Wouldn't touch Jovetic at all. He's rumoured to be heading back to Italy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,557 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Lemlin wrote: »
    Not for the last six or seven years you couldn't. The mid table clubs will come and go but the top six generally stay the same (bar when a Sheikh shows up the odd time).

    I wouldn't be expecting the same for Southampton this season!

    No but it'll be a different club this season. During the O'Neill tenure it was Villa. It's too simplistic a term to say that it's good to have players that play from the good terms. It's not a strategy,

    What I was questioning was this notion of a need for a spread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,557 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Lemlin wrote: »
    Not for the last six or seven years you couldn't. The mid table clubs will come and go but the top six generally stay the same (bar when a Sheikh shows up the odd time). United, Arsenal and Chelsea have been top four since god knows when. City since the Sheikh showed up and Liverpool have now joined the club.

    I wouldn't be expecting the same for Southampton this season either! Swansea or Newcastle didn't hang around too long.

    BY the way, you don't need to show your team but you could still answer my question re has your draft team a "coverage" for your front eight from the top six clubs?

    My team heavily figures 2 big teams at present with an unusually high smattering of the lesser clubs. Other teams will likely come in as their fixtures become more preferable. My argument is that I don't think I should be worried that I don't currently have players from these teams.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Very interesting looking at the Rate My Team thread from this time last year.

    Bale, Van Wolfswinkle, Mignolet, Soldado, Van Persie, Bellamy, Coutinho, Anelka, Walcott, Turner, Berbatov, Snodgrass, Connolly/Hudson/Turner, Negredo, Koren and Kone were all quite popular across the board but for one reason or another (sold in the case of Bale, injury, poor form etc) had a lot less or no impact over the course of the season in comparison to what was expected.

    Mertesacker, Koscienly, Terry, Hazard, Coleman and Bony were probably the only players, from the scan I gave the thread, that a lot were championing who turned out to be undoubted successes.

    Only a tiny few (again from the scan I gave the thread, it was by no means a thorough analysis) had the top ranked goalkeepers (Howard or Szcezeny), the top ranked midfielders (Yaya, Gerrard, Lallana, Nasri Silva or Ramsey) or top ranked forwards (Sturridge, Rooney, Giroud, or Lambert) in their initial sides. The defenders were well covered to be fair.

    Make of that what you will.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    Lemlin wrote: »
    When you put it like that - Giroud, Silva and Mata.

    That's what I was thinking.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭gstack166


    Lucas Hood wrote: »
    Wouldn't touch Jovetic at all. He's rumoured to be heading back to Italy.

    Not a hope. He's flying in ore season, says he's happy & Pellegrini said after the Milan game Sunday night he's expecting a huge season from him. Add that with Negredo's injury, Aguero injury worries & Dzeko constantly blowing hot & cold he'll get a lot of game time this year providing both he stay fit & City don't sign another big striker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    CSF wrote: »
    No but it'll be a different club this season. During the O'Neill tenure it was Villa. It's too simplistic a term to say that it's good to have players that play from the good terms. It's not a strategy,

    What I was questioning was this notion of a need for a spread.

    Well some club always finishes 6th or 7th. I already addressed this point tbh so you're rehashing old ground. A Michu, Cabaye or Remy would generally take up your 4th mid or 3rd striker spot.

    It's not my "strategy" to have players from the top teams. It'd suit me if a bunch of lads around 7 or 8 mil perform but the reality is that generally doesn't happen. That is why straight away people can think of Lallana, Cabaye and Michu - the diamonds in the rough!

    It's also why over the years the top scoring mids have been players like Lampard, Mata, Fabregas, Hazard and Gerrard. The top scoring strikers players like RVP, Drogba and Torres when he was decent.
    CSF wrote: »
    My team heavily figures 2 big teams at present with an unusually high smattering of the lesser clubs. Other teams will likely come in as their fixtures become more preferable. My argument is that I don't think I should be worried that I don't currently have players from these teams.

    It's easy to say that now but if Liverpool beat Saints four or five nil in the first game of the season, would it not worry you that you have no Liverpool attacker?

    I know I'd take alot more notice of a top six club with premium players running up a high score on day 1 than I will of a Hull or Leicester doing it.

    I'll add, different people play this game with different strategies and systems. I stick to the tried and tested from the experience I have and it's delivered finishes in the top 12k, 500, 10k and 2k in the last four years.

    I'm not about to change taking "coverage" into account when it is clearly working for me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,685 ✭✭✭sheroman01


    Okay here's my 3rd draft and I'll probably stay pretty close to this. Such sheer joy and exasperation doing this :P

    I originally had Barkley and Ramsey but after looking at their opening fixtures I opted for Hazard and Sigurdsson. Other changes included Bent for Anichibe and Wilson for Cameron.

    I can switch Aspicuelta for Flippe Luis and Flanagan for Jose Enrique, depending on who starts. Who do ye reckon will start bewteen them anyway??

    Also still not sure who to pick for that 4.0 defender....who's the best bewteen Wisdom, Targett, Bruce, Dummett, and Baird?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Paully D wrote: »
    Very interesting looking at the Rate My Team thread from this time last year.

    Bale, Van Wolfswinkle, Mignolet, Soldado, Van Persie, Bellamy, Coutinho, Anelka, Walcott, Turner, Berbatov, Snodgrass, Connolly/Hudson/Turner, Negredo, Koren and Kone were all quite popular across the board but for one reason or another (sold in the case of Bale, injury, poor form etc) had a lot less or no impact over the course of the season in comparison to what was expected.

    Mertesacker, Koscienly, Terry, Hazard, Coleman and Bony were probably the only players, from the scan I gave the thread, that a lot were championing who turned out to be undoubted successes.

    Only a tiny few (again from the scan I gave the thread, it was by no means a thorough analysis) had the top ranked goalkeepers (Howard or Szcezeny), the top ranked midfielders (Yaya, Gerrard, Lallana, Nasri Silva or Ramsey) or top ranked forwards (Sturridge, Rooney, Giroud, or Lambert) in their initial sides. The defenders were well covered to be fair.

    Make of that what you will.

    Excellent post Pauly. It's why I'm not putting a huge amount of work into my initial draft.

    Like last year, I may well have used my wildcard by seven on the evening of the first day.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭finnharpsboy


    getting close to settling on something like this
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    Gilks Targett El Ahmadi Vaz Te


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    De Jong and Dzeko

    Or

    Sturridge and 4.5m mid such as Albrighton

    ????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    FHFC wrote: »
    De Jong and Dzeko

    Or

    Sturridge and 4.5m mid such as Albrighton

    ????

    The question is essentially de Jong and Dzeko or Sturridge, because you won't get much impact from a £4.5m midfielder.

    I'd go for de Jong and Dzeko.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,714 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


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    First pass at creating a team I would actually field. I always do best with a 5 man midfield. But I feel I'm dreaming with this one. The defence and bench are too weak.

    What do others think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    Paully D wrote: »
    The question is essentially de Jong and Dzeko or Sturridge, because you won't get much impact from a £4.5m midfielder.

    I'd go for de Jong and Dzeko.

    Was worried about not having Sturridge and looked at sacrificing one of my 5 man midfield to fit him in, at ythe expense of my 352 plans.

    But when I put it in the terms above, I think I stick to my guns, knowing that I can get him in two transfers if he becomes essential.


  • Registered Users Posts: 283 ✭✭bodking


    Im getting close

    GK - De Gea ( Playing for 6 weeks )
    DEf - Cameron - Jagielka - Rosenior
    Mid - Sterling - Eriksen - Fábregas - Mata
    For - Dzeko - Giroud - D costa

    Bench
    GK - Myhill
    Def - Sagna - Steven Taylor
    Mid - Albrighton

    Comments , Advice ??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Paully D wrote: »
    The question is essentially de Jong and Dzeko or Sturridge, because you won't get much impact from a £4.5m midfielder.

    I'd go for de Jong and Dzeko.

    I've gone for the 4.5 mid. What's your opinion on:

    Krul Mannone
    Terry, Jonny Evans, Taylor, Targett, Widsom (will be changed to someone who plays)
    Ramsey Mata Hazard Siggy (Albrighton)
    Jelavic Sturridge Rooney


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,685 ✭✭✭sheroman01


    bodking wrote: »
    Im getting close

    GK - De Gea ( Playing for 6 weeks )
    DEf - Cameron - Jagielka - Rosenior
    Mid - Sterling - Eriksen - Fábregas - Mata
    For - Dzeko - Giroud - D costa

    Bench
    GK - Myhill
    Def - Sagna - Steven Taylor
    Mid - Albrighton

    Comments , Advice ??

    Nice team! I'd only look at changing your sub GK and Defenders - You have 13.5 to play with meaning a 4.5m GK and either 4.5m x2 or 5m + 4m defender. I'd play around with that. E.g. Krul/Manone, O'Shea/Vlaar, Ben Davies/Bruce


  • Registered Users Posts: 283 ✭✭bodking


    sheroman01 wrote: »
    Nice team! I'd only look at changing your sub GK and Defenders - You have 13.5 to play with meaning a 4.5m GK and either 4.5m x2 or 5m + 4m defender. I'd play around with that. E.g. Krul/Manone, O'Shea/Vlaar, Ben Davies/Bruce

    I played 1 GK last year and De gea has 6 good starting fixtures

    16 Aug 12:45Gameweek 1Swansea (H)24 Aug 16:00Gameweek 2Sunderland (A)30 Aug 12:45Gameweek 3Burnley (A)14 Sep 16:00Gameweek 4QPR (H)21 Sep 13:30Gameweek 5Leicester (A)27 Sep 15:00Gameweek 6West Ham (H)


    and from there I can look around wouldn't mind transferring a goalie at W7.

    At which point my attack may have changed freeing up some funds but I am not too unhappy with my defence given the funds I had too play with


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,268 ✭✭✭IsMiseMyself


    Tinkering some more.
    Now looking at:
    Mannone,
    Jones, Terry, Dawson.
    Fabregas, Ramsey, Eriksen, Mata,
    Rooney, Costa, Jelavic.

    Had De Gea, but downgraded to Mannone to strengthen the shocking defence I had.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Lemlin wrote: »
    I've gone for the 4.5 mid. What's your opinion on:

    Krul Mannone
    Terry, Jonny Evans, Taylor, Targett, Widsom (will be changed to someone who plays)
    Ramsey Mata Hazard Siggy (Albrighton)
    Jelavic Sturridge Rooney

    I think it's good. My thoughts:

    Bertrand has just signed for Southampton so there goes Targett as a potential starter and Wisdom likely won't start ahead of Gamboa but you have acknowledged that yourself.

    Midfield is nice IMO. All starters are proven FPL players and should play a key role for their teams. I'd be slightly cautious on Ramsey for £9m as I think he may play in that deeper 2 alongside Arteta (or preferably from an Arsenal viewpoint a new signing) and there may be other players around that price point who will get more attacking opportunities, but he's more than capable of making bursting runs up and down.

    Rooney and Sturridge are perfect but personally I wouldn't be sure on Jelavic. Admittedly I don't rate him all that much as a player, but to be fair Hull do have some nice fixtures to start off and they may be that little bit sharper at the very beginning due to Europa League qualifiers. It's all about hitting on that £6.0m third striker but that's the case for the vast majority and if they were sure things as points scorers, they wouldn't be that price I suppose.

    Overall, it's a good team, but I would be a bit worried about your defence. I think going with Rooney and Sturridge has negated defensive balance but that's not a secret that sacrifices have to be made for such a top strikeforce. If I was to advise on anything it would be that you really need to find a third CB that will rotate well enough with Taylor to pair alongside Terry and Evans every week, Swansea got only 2 clean sheets away from home last season so playing Taylor away from home would be the equivalent of starting each week with a 1 or 2 point defender in the side. Maybe you could downgrade Hazard to Fabregas to free up £1m and switch Targett or Wisdom to Pieters or Huth to give you a fixture run of AVL, BUR, WBA, LEI, SOT, NEW, NEW, SWA, LEI, WHM, ARS, BUR, CPL, QPR thanks to the excellent Stoke/Swansea rotation?


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