Do you have to be protestant to join?

runswithascript

Do you have to be protestant to join and if not how much does being protestant help the application?

pcplod

dusf wrote: »

Do you have to be protestant to join and if not how much does being protestant help the application?

with all due respect, are u having a laugh?

salmocab

If your serious probably best not to join, but no you don't have to be protestant in fact I think a few years ago they were trying to redress the balance and being catholic or other was a plus for applications.

active_edge

And your name must be William, or Billy. Ideally your address will feature the numbers 16 and 90.

Sgt_fenners

I'm nearly sure Gerry was out running last week. Maybe he is in training for pca???

active_edge

Sgt_fenners wrote: »

I'm nearly sure Gerry was out running last week. Maybe he is in training for pca???

Surely for aerodynamic purposes the beard would have to go?

missyme82

i actually LOL'd at that one!!

runswithascript

Okay, so non-protestants can join now but how much does being Protestant increase career progression chances? Or maybe being the token Catholic would help promotion?

Dekkers

I would ask that you be more respectful in your posts.

I would hardly call a police officer with the same community background as almost half the country 'token'.

Some basic research will tell you that the PSNI is over 30% Catholic. Not perfect figures but certainly encouraging (well, at least for those of us who embrace the ethos of equality).

runswithascript

I am being respectful. Are you denying there is Protestant favouritism and a bias against Catholic police officers and public in the PSNI?

Luke92

I'm pretty sure its the opposite as were not in the troubles anymore. They want more Catholics as during the troubles there was a stigma attached to being a catholic PSNI officer.

Sthm

Wind your neck in, dusf.

the dark phantom

dusf wrote: »

Do you have to be protestant to join and if not how much does being protestant help the application?

I'm sure the Penal Laws were repealed some centuries ago..

ancapailldorcha

dusf wrote: »

I am being respectful. Are you denying there is Protestant favouritism and a bias against Catholic police officers and public in the PSNI?

Having spent a year in the North, I can say anecdotally that most people couldn't care less about religion and Unionism/Nationalism and are primarily concerned with living their lives.

runswithascript

Exactly how many members of the Unionist rabble were arrested for incitement to hatred for burning effigies of Nationalists July 12?

tonyka

dusf wrote: »

I am being respectful. Are you denying there is Protestant favouritism and a bias against Catholic police officers and public in the PSNI?

This thread appears to be about prejudice in the PSNI and not as it seems in the title. .

Dekkers

dusf wrote: »

I am being respectful. Are you denying there is Protestant favouritism and a bias against Catholic police officers and public in the PSNI?

So you were being sarcastic in your original post?

It's not my place or within my knowledge to comment on protestant favourtism in the workplace but in answer to your other question, no, I don't believe the PSNI are biased against Catholics.

runswithascript

It would seem the Fair Employment Tribunal disagree:

Police pay for anti-Catholic bias

Firewalkwithme

dusf wrote: »

Exactly how many members of the Unionist rabble were arrested for incitement to hatred for burning effigies of Nationalists July 12?

Translation: I want to join the PSNI so I can arrest Unionists / Loyalists / Protestants.

Dekkers

dusf wrote: »

It would seem the Fair Employment Tribunal disagree:

Police pay for anti-Catholic bias

I'm not sure of the point you're making.

In this article the claimant is Protestant, not a PSNI officer and being victimised due to his relationship with a Catholic woman.

All horrendous of course but completely unrelated to career progression within the PSNI based on community background.

smcgiff

Op is trolling and doesn't even know it.

runswithascript

Cartoon_Head wrote: »

Translation: I want to join the PSNI so I can arrest Unionists / Loyalists / Protestants.

Noam Chomsky you are not.

Dekkers wrote: »

In this article the claimant is Protestant, not a PSNI officer and being victimised due to his relationship with a Catholic woman.
.

Victimised by the PSNI.

P_1

Out of interest what's the situation WRT atheists who want to join the PSNI?

runswithascript

P_1 wrote: »

Out of interest what's the situation WRT atheists who want to join the PSNI?

It probably depends on whether they are Irish or not.

Dekkers

P_1 wrote: »

Out of interest what's the situation WRT atheists who want to join the PSNI?

Maybe they should exclusively employ atheists.

Religious beliefs of candidates is not under consideration at any time in the process.

crinkley

dusf wrote: »

It probably depends on whether they are Irish or not.

If you tick other on the equality monitoring form someone will go through it and determine whether you're a catholic atheist or a Protestant atheist. A company is only to suppose to have 10% marked as other

P_1

crinkley wrote: »

If you tick other on the equality monitoring form someone will go through it and determine whether you're a catholic atheist or a Protestant atheist. A company is only to suppose to have 10% marked as other

Really? So even if you profess to not having any religious faith they lump you in with one or the other? Is that not somewhat discriminatory?

crinkley

P_1 wrote: »

Really? So even if you profess to not having any religious faith they lump you in with one or the other? Is that not somewhat discriminatory?

Yep, asked these questions of my manager but the equality commission will investigate if it's more than 10% so I just stop putting other as I know some poor sap has to sift through them. Also I'm not from ni so didn't know straight off which areas were Protestant and which catholic. That was a fun start to a new job!

P_1

crinkley wrote: »

Yep, asked these questions of my manager but the equality commission will investigate if it's more than 10% so I just stop putting other as I know some poor sap has to sift through them. Also I'm not from ni so didn't know straight off which areas were Protestant and which catholic. That was a fun start to a new job!

I'd imagine so! Seems a strange way of doing business but I guess it's how it's done. I suppose it's a way of preventing discrimination on sectarian grounds but it does strike me as being an unwelcome relic of the past.

Dekkers

P_1 wrote: »

Really? So even if you profess to not having any religious faith they lump you in with one or the other? Is that not somewhat discriminatory?

Essentially, yes. It's not just the PSNI in fairness and many employers ask 'what community would you be perceived to be from' rather than querying any genuine religious beliefs so even if you are an atheist you still feel somewhat obliged to tick one of their preferred boxes...

The PSNI do ask that you list schools you attended and as far as I can see this is to determine religious background.

Sgtmort

Dusf - i actually laughed when I saw ur post then as I read through it I cudnt believe what you were saying! A narrow minded little brat if you ask me. My friend is in the psni and a catholic, he has been promoted purely for his skills and committment. Don't come out with such tripe. I'll not bother entertain you with an argument...I've my hair to wash!