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Willfarman wrote: »

Was the last one a late calf or a bad un?

reared on a teat ,always struggling .

simx

Kovu wrote: »

You got a good price there!
Will she still have to be blooded for the factory? Am also waiting on two other cows, if they repeat, they can join her.

ThAts an outstanding price imo best I heard for a R grade cow is €4.10, would you not mart her? Could be better off, good cows very much so in demand, looks fine for flesh to me

Kovu

simx wrote: »

ThAts an outstanding price imo best I heard for a R grade cow is €4.10, would you not mart her? Could be better off, good cows very much so in demand, looks fine for flesh to me

Cost of blooding, mart fees, day spent in the mart.....easier to send her one way with a haulier who builds up loads to send in.

cute geoge

I have often sent the odd cow to factory with haulier ,sometimes i am happy and more often not
That cow could carry more weight imo and would fly in the mart at the moment
As far as i know bruc. testing is to be done away with shortly ,vet told me only waiting for our minister coveney to anounce it.
I have a few to mart myself and am holding tough until then

visatorro

Kovu wrote:

Cost of blooding, mart fees, day spent in the mart.....easier to send her one way with a haulier who builds up loads to send in.

yeah but the dealer will get a better price than you for himself in factory. so he can give more in the mart iykwim? sometimes you get more in the mart for a factory fit animal

mf240

visatorro wrote: »

yeah but the dealer will get a better price than you for himself in factory. so he can give more in the mart iykwim? sometimes you get more in the mart for a factory fit animal

Ya but unless theres someone to bid against him he wont .

In the local mart the dealers stand back for each other for every other lot.

That plus the cost of blooding and call out fee for vet.

Muckit

Kovu wrote: »

True, but I think she'd go overfat very quick as she's put up that on grass alone while feeding a brute of a blue heifer. Ask and let me know though! I suppose I could feed her in the field for a few weeks with a bucket. Save hardship of the shed.

Well fleshed facory fit cows are a great trade in the marts atm. There's is a big variation in the price you will get for cows in different factories. Some specialise in them. Others don't want to know. My advice for what it's worth, is It will pay you well to blood her and sell hard through the ring.

Factory in Moyvalley, among others, is good for cows. Dealers buying through the ring will put a few together and get them going on a load. They can afford to pay you more than you would get selling direct to your local factory.

Also she could just as easily go north with your marts proximity and the strong sterling against the euro.

Kovu

Some very good points for both. Damn.....I was expecting to be told outright what to do :pac: I suppose I could get onto a vet who's a mate of mine and ask him to blood her when he's in the area. Would save us a call out fee as he expressed an interest in her calf last time he was here, kill two birds with one stone.
Going to put them in today and wean her, calf is Nov so well fit, reckon she's about 340kg or so.

keysersoze1

do not send a cow to the factory that's suckling a calf...you'll get her price in the mart at the moment dealers or no dealers

Kovu

keysersoze1 wrote: »

do not send a cow to the factory that's suckling a calf...you'll get her price in the mart at the moment dealers or no dealers

I know that, hence her being weaned. Both the father and myself have experience working in factories but not for a few years.

leoch

are the factories that dodgy that a dealer will get more for ur cattle in the factory than urself i thought the grading machine would be the same for everyone

tanko

leoch wrote: »

are the factories that dodgy that a dealer will get more for ur cattle in the factory than urself i thought the grading machine would be the same for everyone

A dealer who can put a lorry load of cows together might get 420c/kg but a farmer bringing one cow might get 400c/kg. It's nothing to do with the grading machines.

Farmer Pudsey

Are prices gone this crazy have not been in a mart in ages. But looking at DD at present some lads that are buying are going to get a scalding. Both lots of cattle are more than likly 2017 factory cattle. Some lads are buying for the sake of buying




http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/fr-bulls/9925977?offset=22
http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/9-british-frisian-bulls/9973619?offset=9

CloughCasey1

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Are prices gone this crazy have not been in a mart in ages. But looking at DD at present some lads that are buying are going to get a scalding. Both lots of cattle are more than likly 2017 factory cattle. Some lads are buying for the sake of buying

Hopefully they are as I've a few going tomorrow.
Both sets would have been got for 480 last yr. B&W will be first to take hit in a slump. We bought an 20mt old well made frx for 815 last yr. Will know the result of that by Monday.

Cavanjack

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Are prices gone this crazy have not been in a mart in ages. But looking at DD at present some lads that are buying are going to get a scalding. Both lots of cattle are more than likly 2017 factory cattle. Some lads are buying for the sake of buying





http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/fr-bulls/9925977?offset=22
http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/9-british-frisian-bulls/9973619?offset=9

Would anybody really pay those prices. Is it more a case of lads chancing their arm? The country must be full of fr bull weanlings like above, many of which were kept on to drink milk. These will surely hit the marts in the coming months and early next year and the a#$e (if they have any) will fall out of them

AP2014

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Are prices gone this crazy have not been in a mart in ages. But looking at DD at present some lads that are buying are going to get a scalding. Both lots of cattle are more than likly 2017 factory cattle. Some lads are buying for the sake of buying




http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/fr-bulls/9925977?offset=22
http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/9-british-frisian-bulls/9973619?offset=9

Seems they are from talking to lads going to marts. Absolutely crazy. I have a lanky HEX that was thrown in from dealer this year. He would be around 400kg. I am thinking of letting him go soon as prices seem mad.

Count Mondego

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Are prices gone this crazy have not been in a mart in ages. But looking at DD at present some lads that are buying are going to get a scalding. Both lots of cattle are more than likly 2017 factory cattle. Some lads are buying for the sake of buying


http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/fr-bulls/9925977?offset=22
http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/9-british-frisian-bulls/9973619?offset=9

Don't think that is happening. Was in Gort mart last night.

Ch hf 300kg €940 - Nice animal
Aax nov/14 355 €985
Bax jan/15 280 €850

They're mental prices alright but there was value in year and a halves. A pen of lovely CH heifers came in, 8 together about 450kgs. They went for 1050 which was actually good value for their quality. Though it was ridiculous to put 8 in the ring together, how many lads were there for 8?

Farmer Pudsey

Count Mondego wrote: »

Don't think that is happening. Was in Gort mart last night.

Ch hf 300kg €940 - Nice animal
Aax nov/14 355 €985
Bax jan/15 280 €850

They're mental prices alright but there was value in year and a halves. A pen of lovely CH heifers came in, 8 together about 450kgs. They went for 1050 which was actually good value for their quality. Though it was ridiculous to put 8 in the ring together, how many lads were there for 8?

All you need is two

CloughCasey1

Lmx feb 14 540kg 1340
Bbx apr 14 520kg 1350
Lmx jan 14 505kg 1390
Bbx apr 14 530kg 1240

AP2014

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Lmx feb 14 540kg 1340
Bbx apr 14 520kg 1350
Lmx jan 14 505kg 1390
Bbx apr 14 530kg 1240

These your own? Bullocks? Any pics?

Bullocks

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Lmx feb 14 540kg 1340
Bbx apr 14 520kg 1350
Lmx jan 14 505kg 1390
Bbx apr 14 530kg 1240

Great money , were you in headford ? I've a fr cow there today but i haven't heard from yer man that brought her down yet

CloughCasey1

AP2014 wrote: »

These your own? Bullocks? Any pics?

I have of the two lmx will post later

AP2014

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

I have of the two lmx will post later

Cheers, some prices and weights though infairness.

CloughCasey1

Bullocks wrote: »

Great money , were you in headford ? I've a fr cow there today but i haven't heard from yer man that brought her down yet

Ya it was quite enough with stock but ring was busy. Hopefully will hold another month as last of my year and halfs lads will be ready for then. Well fleshed animals made good money. Cows won't be on for a while yet. You might do well as truckers will have half full loads. Let us know how she does.

CloughCasey1

AP2014 wrote: »

Cheers, some prices and weights though infairness.

They have got a lb of nuts mixed with soya meal and barley since turnout every day. Just to keep them topped up with tue grass.

CloughCasey1

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Lmx feb 14 540kg 1340
Bbx apr 14 520kg 1350
Lmx jan 14 505kg 1390
Bbx apr 14 530kg 1240

Pics not great

AP2014

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Pics not great

Nice cattle with good flesh on them, they don't look exceptional though. Think ya cleaned up with prices. Fair play.

CloughCasey1

AP2014 wrote: »

Nice cattle with good flesh on them, they don't look exceptional though. Think ya cleaned up with prices. Fair play.

Nope. Just big heavy lumps

Bullocks

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Ya it was quite enough with stock but ring was busy. Hopefully will hold another month as last of my year and halfs lads will be ready for then. Well fleshed animals made good money. Cows won't be on for a while yet. You might do well as truckers will have half full loads. Let us know how she does.

€890 she made . I'm happy with that , don't know her weight but under 500kg anyhow , purebred holstien

CloughCasey1

Bullocks wrote: »

€890 she made . I'm happy with that , don't know her weight but under 500kg anyhow , purebred holstien

You'll find the weight on farming forum during week. Wouldn't ne many fr cows in Headford.

Bullocks

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

You'll find the weight on farming forum during week. Wouldn't ne many fr cows in Headford.

I just forgot to ask the lad that brought her down he will have it for me when i see him again

Limestone Cowboy

Sold 3 youngish dry cows at home yesterday for 1425, one Charolais x sim that had a good bit of flesh but still needed a small bit more feeding and 2 fairly storey red lims but all well made cows. I'd probably have averaged closer to 1500 in the mart but your man will blood them and by the time you'd have commission and a 50 mile round trip to the mart with them taken out of it I might be as well off. One of them had horns as well so wouldn't have got in with her.

simx

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

All you need is two

Remember being in the Box once and waiting to announce special sale over intercom, got chatting to auctioneer, he asked me had I many and what kind of money was I expecting, told him anyways, he looked around and said there's not too many about for this sale, I said sure we only need two, his reply back was "we'll make do with one too"

Bullocks

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Sold 3 youngish dry cows at home yesterday for 1425, one Charolais x sim that had a good bit of flesh but still needed a small bit more feeding and 2 fairly storey red lims but all well made cows. I'd probably have averaged closer to 1500 in the mart but your man will blood them and by the time you'd have commission and a 50 mile round trip to the mart with them taken out of it I might be as well off. One of them had horns as well so wouldn't have got in with her.

Will the buyer pay to blood them ? That's not a bad deal at all

Limestone Cowboy

Bullocks wrote: »

Will the buyer pay to blood them ? That's not a bad deal at all

Ya, that's the way we always dealt with him.

Dozer1

carried 2 culls to Kilmallock yesterday, prices seemed pretty strong
I'd one nice red LM 655Kgs made 1215 and one screwball of a shorthorn that never had a calf 395kgs made 790, madness I thought anyway as there was no way she'll fatten and she wouldn't survive in a shed of cattle.

calves were still dear, month old whiteheads up 380 and week old angus making 180.

wouldn't like to be feeding them till next spring.

whelan2

Dozer1 wrote: »

carried 2 culls to Kilmallock yesterday, prices seemed pretty strong
I'd one nice red LM 655Kgs made 1215 and one screwball of a shorthorn that never had a calf 395kgs made 790, madness I thought anyway as there was no way she'll fatten and she wouldn't survive in a shed of cattle.

calves were still dear, month old whiteheads up 380 and week old angus making 180.

wouldn't like to be feeding them till next spring.

HAD 2 lads ringing last week looking for calves

Reggie.

whelan2 wrote: »

HAD 2 lads ringing last week looking for calves

Preordering

whelan2

Reggie. wrote: »

Preordering

Ye i had told them earlier i would be calving in August. Cant imagine theres too many calves around at this time of year. Not starting calving til the end of August .

Reggie.

whelan2 wrote: »

Ye i had told them earlier i would be calving in August. Cant imagine theres too many calves around at this time of year. Not starting calving til the end of August .

Not much of a break there so

orm0nd

nenagh to day Lm bullocks

535 kgs €1335
595 kgs € 1525
473 kgs €1155

Base price

whelan2 wrote: »

Ye i had told them earlier i would be calving in August. Cant imagine theres too many calves around at this time of year. Not starting calving til the end of August .

FR bull calves are still been shipped out. Never heard of it at this time of the year as it usually finishes in June. I presume it has something to do with the quotas going

CloughCasey1

orm0nd wrote: »

nenagh to day Lm bullocks

535 kgs €1335
595 kgs € 1525
473 kgs €1155

Any pics?

whelan2

Base price wrote: »

FR bull calves are still been shipped out. Never heard of it at this time of the year as it usually finishes in June. I presume it has something to do with the quotas going

I wonder what were the export figures like for this year?

ganmo

whelan2 wrote: »

I wonder what were the export figures like for this year?

http://www.bordbia.ie/industry/farmers/pricetracking/cattle/pages/livecattleexports.aspx

Cavanjack

ganmo wrote: »

http://www.bordbia.ie/industry/farmers/pricetracking/cattle/pages/livecattleexports.aspx

So there is 15k less calves exported so far this year and 110-120k extra calves born. Some people will get a serious burning come 2017.

Reggie.

Cavanjack wrote: »

So there is 15k less calves exported so far this year and 110-120k extra calves born. Some people will get a serious burning come 2017.

Try explaining that to some people tho

patsy_mccabe

Cavanjack wrote: »

So there is 15k less calves exported so far this year and 110-120k extra calves born. Some people will get a serious burning come 2017.

Not necessarily,the other side of the coin is the demand. There may bew a greater demand for beef then. We hope!

orm0nd

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Any pics?

no, belonging to a neighbour (unfortunately not mine)

classy stock mostly feb14. light red lm ex simmential x cows

CloughCasey1

orm0nd wrote: »

no, belonging to a neighbour (unfortunately not mine)

classy stock mostly feb14. light red lm ex simmential x cows

Lim muscle with sim frames. Good mix.