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CloughCasey1

Bullocks wrote: »

€890 she made . I'm happy with that , don't know her weight but under 500kg anyhow , purebred holstien

Ya should have sent her to athenry mart or factory. She was a lot heavier than ya thought. Deal of the day in Headford me thinks and was the last lady in. :-(

larrymiller

Is it common to fail a blood test and then get a re-test and pass?

whelan2

larrymiller wrote: »

Is it common to fail a blood test and then get a re-test and pass?

brucellosis?

Bullocks

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Ya should have sent her to athenry mart or factory. She was a lot heavier than ya thought. Deal of the day in Headford me thinks and was the last lady in. :-(

A lad at work showed me her picture there ! She was dearer than I thought and way heavier at 675kg and €980 but I'm still happy with that money

larrymiller

whelan2 wrote: »

brucellosis?

Yep

whelan2

larrymiller wrote: »

Yep

was it that it couldnt be read? very strange if it showed +

greysides

larrymiller wrote: »

Is it common to fail a blood test and then get a re-test and pass?

Haven't had one for a long time but 'no'.

larrymiller

greysides wrote: »

Haven't had one for a long time but 'no'.

A lad was telling me it happend to him a few weeks ago, tought it was unusual

whelan2

larrymiller wrote: »

A lad was telling me it happend to him a few weeks ago, tought it was unusual

sometimes there mightnt be enough blood in the sample and it has to be redone?

CloughCasey1

Bullocks wrote: »

A lad at work showed me her picture there ! She was dearer than I thought and way heavier at 675kg and €980 but I'm still happy with that money

Ya can't do anything out of the way with mart reports on farming forum. I'd ask the uncle how he got on with a lock of weanlings and he'd always have an extra 30kg and €50 on them. I'll let him know someday when it suits!!

Bullocks

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Ya can't do anything out of the way with mart reports on farming forum. I'd ask the uncle how he got on with a lock of weanlings and he'd always have an extra 30kg and €50 on them. I'll let him know someday when it suits!!

Her picture is in the journal today aswell . I was going the opposite to the uncle, cheaper and lighter

CloughCasey1

Right lads. 4 stumps going to mart tomorrow. Weights and what will I get. Winner gets a prize!!

Orange chx may14
White chx apr 14
Hex will go together Mar & Apr 14

CloughCasey1

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Right lads. 4 stumps going to mart tomorrow. Weights and what will I get. Winner gets a prize!!

Orange chx may14
White chx apr 14
Hex will go together Mar & Apr 14

Can't attach photos as cannot see attachment button.

Willfarman

The prize will be hard won so!

CloughCasey1

Finally......

CloughCasey1

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Finally......

Last two

Willfarman

Whiteheads 470 kg €. 1060. White char 510kgs € 1320. Roan char. 440 kg €1180 I hope you get it all and more!

CloughCasey1

Willfarman wrote: »

Whiteheads 470 kg €. 1060. White char 510kgs € 1320. Roan char. 440 kg €1180 I hope you get it all and more!

Your bang in the weights id say bar the roan char....I think.....

Willfarman

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Your bang in the weights id say bar the roan char....I think.....

Heavier than that? You'd want the photos all in front of a 5 bar gate for guesstimating purposes! What money have you in mind?

CloughCasey1

Willfarman wrote: »

Heavier than that? You'd want the photos all in front of a 5 bar gate for guesstimating purposes! What money have you in mind?

Thats what I try and gauge cattle in donedeal by. Went out to look at "monsters" of FR weanlings once and when got to the field seen the gate was at an angle and heart sank even before I seen the beasts. You are 100% bang on the money bar id hope for 1280 for orangey chx.

Panch18

Willfarman wrote: »

Whiteheads 470 kg €. 1060. White char 510kgs € 1320. Roan char. 440 kg €1180 I hope you get it all and more!

The white char doesn't look that weight to me

I would knock 10-20 kgs off the whiteheads as well

CloughCasey1

Panch18 wrote: »

The white char doesn't look that weight to me

I would knock 10-20 kgs off the whiteheads as well

Sure I may as well guess myself seeing that's all I'm doing is guessing!
White chx 505kg €1330
Orange chx 495kg €1240 colour may go against me
Hex 475kg €1040

FarmerDougal

Orange chx 350kg r+ 4-
White chx 380kg r=3-
Hex 300kg 0+ 3-

Best of luck

whelan2

aa cow getting ready to calve, had a section last year, can only go near her with jeep today, hopefully she will calve herself

wiggy123

hope all goes gd whelan2
quiet Angus's...

whelan2

wiggy123 wrote: »

hope all goes gd whelan2
quiet Angus's...

She calved herself. All's good. Will post a picture when it's safe to go near her

CloughCasey1

Willfarman wrote: »

Whiteheads 470 kg €. 1060. White char 510kgs € 1320. Roan char. 440 kg €1180 I hope you get it all and more!

And the winner is........THE FN TRUCKERS......prices back to fook

White chx 465 kg 1180
Orangey chx 495kg 1195
2 whiteheads 468kg 1090

Big change in two weeks.

AP2014

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

And the winner is........THE FN TRUCKERS......prices back to fook

White chx 465 kg 1180
Orangey chx 495kg 1195
2 whiteheads 468kg 1090

Big change in two weeks.

Are they back that much? They seem like decent prices especially for the whiteheads. White chx didn't weigh great.

CloughCasey1

AP2014 wrote: »

Are they back that much? They seem like decent prices especially for the whiteheads. White chx didn't weigh great.

No AP he didn't. Two lads starting bidding on the whiteheads so that got me the 90euro extra. They were tall well made ones anyway. There was a lot of them in before mine same age and 380kg. Paid 500 each for them in November. 715 for orangey chx in sept and 600 for white chx last August. Happy enough.

AP2014

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

No AP he didn't. Two lads starting bidding on the whiteheads so that got me the 90euro extra. They were tall well made ones anyway. There was a lot of them in before mine same age and 380kg. Paid 500 each for them in November. 715 for orangey chx in sept and 600 for white chx last August. Happy enough.

Ah jaysus ya done ok so. The pictures are deceiving they looked stocky but in great order. Were ya giving them a few nuts? What ages?

CloughCasey1

Orange chx may14
White chx apr 14
Hex will go together Mar & Apr 14

Mix of nuts soya bean meal and barley bout half kg each per day since turn out. Just to keep them ticking over really. They very easy manage also.

tanko

The whiteheads did the best, they were the cheapest to buy and left the biggest profit.

CloughCasey1

tanko wrote: »

The whiteheads did the best, they were the cheapest to buy and left the biggest profit.

Tis hard to know what to buy. Weanlings under 700 euro anymore and good continental sucks 350 or under. Anything more is a risk.

AP2014

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Orange chx may14
White chx apr 14
Hex will go together Mar & Apr 14

Mix of nuts soya bean meal and barley bout half kg each per day since turn out. Just to keep them ticking over really. They very easy manage also.

Great weights for the ages. I will have a few to go in November around the DOB/quality of yours and be 500kg to 550kg hopefully. I dished out €800 for them in March though. You did great with those HEX.

I don't give feed, would you not buy beef nuts? Is that mix you buy cheaper?

Willfarman

The chars were deserving of a bit more but ya couldn't bring em home just same. Whiteheads were bang on value Imo.

CloughCasey1

AP2014 wrote: »

Great weights for the ages. I will have a few to go in November around the DOB/quality of yours and be 500kg to 550kg hopefully. I dished out €800 for them in March though. You did great with those HEX.

I don't give feed, would you not buy beef nuts? Is that mix you buy cheaper?

I buy half tonne bag of nuts and bags of soya meal and barley. 3half tonne bags since turnout so not robbing me.

CloughCasey1

Willfarman wrote: »

The chars were deserving of a bit more but ya couldn't bring em home just same. Whiteheads were bang on value Imo.

In my opinion yes. I'd have got 750 + with their weight 2 wks ago. Was happy out with the whiteheads.

Farrell

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

I buy half tonne bag of nuts and bags of soya meal and barley. 3half tonne bags since turnout so not robbing me.

What rate do you mix?
Also is it to cheapen the mix, or add protein?

CloughCasey1

Farrell wrote: »

What rate do you mix?
Also is it to cheapen the mix, or add protein?

Soya bean meal definitely does not cheapen the mix. Total mik for groups of 8 for summer would be a total of 3kg beef nuts 3/4kg of both soya and barley. More protein is the key. And ive been consistently getting cattle to carry good weight and build good frame since I started using the soya

tanko

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Soya bean meal definitely does not cheapen the mix. Total mik for groups of 8 for summer would be a total of 3kg beef nuts 3/4kg of both soya and barley. More protein is the key. And ive been consistently getting cattle to carry good weight and build good frame since I started using the soya

What size bags does the soya bean meal come in and how much is it?

CloughCasey1

tanko wrote: »

What size bags does the soya bean meal come in and how much is it?

25kg quinns is the name on bag I think. It is over €13 per bag.

Farrell

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Soya bean meal definitely does not cheapen the mix. Total mik for groups of 8 for summer would be a total of 3kg beef nuts 3/4kg of both soya and barley. More protein is the key. And ive been consistently getting cattle to carry good weight and build good frame since I started using the soya

Ok so a 3:2:2 mix.
Could be an option for weanlings heifers over the winter.
Would you add minerals to the mix?

Good loser

Journal said this week 12% crude protein enough for fattening cattle on grass. It is too.

Protein is now high in grass dry matter.

CloughCasey1

Good loser wrote: »

Journal said this week 12% crude protein enough for fattening cattle on grass. It is too.

Protein is now high in grass dry matter.

Ya in a perfect world. With beautiful grazing weather. They standing at the walls looking for shelter most of the last month. This way I know they are getting what they need. As I said its my system it seems to be working and I'm sticking with it.

CloughCasey1

Farrell wrote: »

Ok so a 3:2:2 mix.
Could be an option for weanlings heifers over the winter.
Would you add minerals to the mix?

Minerals is the next thing I want to look into. I put bluestone in troughs every so often and bucket of mineral lick. Would like advice on that if anyone has any. As for winter I change the main mixture from nuts to barley and soya hulls mix with soya bean meal.

tomieen jones

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Minerals is the next thing I want to look into. I put bluestone in troughs every so often and bucket of mineral lick. Would like advice on that if anyone has any. As for winter I change the main mixture from nuts to barley and soya hulls mix with soya bean meal.

I do the very same! Throw some bluestone
Into the water troughs but it's guess work as to how much is sufficient unless I do a few blood tests

cute geoge

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

No AP he didn't. Two lads starting bidding on the whiteheads so that got me the 90euro extra. They were tall well made ones anyway. There was a lot of them in before mine same age and 380kg. Paid 500 each for them in November. 715 for orangey chx in sept and 600 for white chx last August. Happy enough.

Great info just wondering what the 380kg whiteheads made
Have you an idea what weight the whiteheads were when you bought them
I sold 3 august '14 whiteheads 270kg bucket fed weanlings myself this week for €625 .happy as they were handy out of smallish fr cows sold the best one out of that bunch for €200 as a 6 weeks old calf in local mart , so they made well over €425 for there years keep

CloughCasey1

cute geoge wrote: »

Great info just wondering what the 380kg whiteheads made
Have you an idea what weight the whiteheads were when you bought them
I sold 3 august '14 whiteheads 270kg bucket fed weanlings myself this week for €625 .happy as they were handy out of smallish fr cows sold the best one out of that bunch for €200 as a 6 weeks old calf in local mart , so they made well over €425 for there years keep

Around the 830 mark not 100% sure. They were light but good enough frame. The looked lost against what I reared myself from sucks and really bad against the weanlings I bought in but if ya look back at the photos I posted they came on well.

Limestone Cowboy

Headed up to tullamore today through Gort, portumna and birr. Herself was driving and I got to look in over plenty of walls and is it just me or is there very little stock east of the Shannon. Apart from a few dairy farms along the way there didn't seem to be anything close to the numbers of stock around fields as there is around here. Granted there is a good bit of tillage land along the way but would have thought on good land there would be a lot more stock along the way. Anyone else notice similar?

whelan2

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Headed up to tullamore today through Gort, portumna and birr. Herself was driving and I got to look in over plenty of walls and is it just me or is there very little stock east of the Shannon. Apart from a few dairy farms along the way there didn't seem to be anything close to the numbers of stock around fields as there is around here. Granted there is a good bit of tillage land along the way but would have thought on good land there would be a lot more stock along the way. Anyone else notice similar?

Parents went to Mullingar last week, my dad said there was nearly no sheep in the fields on the way , a few big dairy farms and a few cattle. Said it has changed alot in a few years