9 week old rottie

cocker5

Op,

I'm going to be very honest and say you sound like an inexperienced dog owner (no offence intended) but it's true.

Your pup is 10 weeks old, you put him in another room for being bold - playing biting is normal all puppies do this... You want to show him who's boss.(in this day and age I still can't believe people believe in that sh*te)... You force him to sit by using your hand...

The pups is 10 weeks old he doesn't understand sit yet... He plays bites ... Jumps around all excited - all 10 week old puppies do this.

My advice to you is firstly do some puppy training classes, secondly educate yourself on proper training methods, if you have no intention of doing either please give this dog back to the breeder before you turn it into an aggressive , unhappy and dangerous dog.

rottie 11

Ye are all saying hes playing but ye dont see him attackin the king charles. I had dogs all my life so ya im very unexperienced? I know how to train a dog he sits, waits 4 his food, gives the paw , lies dwn , hes fully potty trained but he just wont stop biting

tk123

rottie 11 wrote: »

Ye are all saying hes playing but ye dont see him attackin the king charles. I had dogs all my life so ya im very unexperienced? I know how to train a dog he sits, waits 4 his food, gives the paw , lies dwn , hes fully potty trained but he just wont stop biting

Have you socialised him with other dogs his age e.g. at a puppy social hour/party/puppy classes or even with an adult dog who's more his size? Pups learn bite inhibition from each other or other dogs. My pup never bit any of us because my other dog quickly trained her not to - he has better timing than any of us. I've done LOADS of training with my 5 year old but still took the pup to puppy classes for socialisation.

peasant

Whoa ...

The OP may not be the most experienced dog owner but at least he's looking for help .

The main problem is that the OP has not one but two puppies on his hands.

Under normal circumstances a slightly older dog would rein in a boisterous puppy more quickly and more effectively than an owner ever could ...but here we have a 5 month old pup being "attacked" that doesn't know how to defend itself (and even if it did, the younger pup probably wouldn't take any lessons from another pup) so the owner HAS TO step in in some form to prevent chaos from establishing itself.

The way to do it is with quiet authority.

As others have said ...forget about enforcing a "sit", the pup doesn't know yet what you're talking about and you only add to the mayhem and confusion.

Basically forget about any "commands" to resolve this situation ...both dogs are too young to follow them reliably and you're only spoiling the commands for future use when you keep on shouting random words the the dogs don't react to.
Commands need to be trained and embedded in a calm environment ...that's for another day.

Watch the dogs like a hawk, learn to predict what's going to happen next and try and stop it if you don't like it.
Use your voice to let them know that you know what they're about to do and that you don't like it ..."No" or even a sharp" ah-ah" will do.
Reward good behaviour with praise, correct the wrong as above. Be quick and on the point ..praise or correction that comes way after the fact is useless, it has to be on the dot.
If bad behaviour persists, then you can remove the culprit for a short time ...but only a short time, two minutes is enough...longer is counter-productive (as you may inadvertently introduce separation anxiety)

Having said all that ...some form of play biting/barking/growling/yelping is normal among pups and nothing to worry about. Only if one of the pups is decidedly uncomfortable do you need to step in ...and don't forget to praise them when they're nice and quiet.

Young pups spend a lot of time tired and sleepy ...use those times to quietly and calmly build on your relationship ...not when they are sleeping, but when they are relaxed/not wound up. Stroke them, pet them, talk calmly to them ...make them like and trust you.

The more they trust you, the more readily they will accept your corrections.

If you feel the need to establish yourself as "boss", a simple "sit" (provided they know what it is and can do it ) before you put down their food/give them their toy or whatever else it is they want will establish that very clearly and without any need for force. He who controls the resources is boss ...no question about it, no need to hammer it home.

Having a few lessons with a good trainer probably still wouldn't do any harm ...not to train the dogs really, but to give you the quiet confidence that what you're doing and how you're doing it is right. Only a quietly confident owner can raise quiet and confident dogs

Or the other way round ..nothing transfers to dogs as quickly as insecurity and panic


EDIT:
ok ..all of the above was written assuming that the OP was a first time owner ...which he isn't ...so forget it.

@ rotti 11

If I were you, I'd have this behaviour witnessed by somebody who knows about puppy behaviour. Either a trainer or perhaps another Rottie breeder to assess the situation ...ie. is the dog over-aggressive or under-trained?

tk123

I started saying 'enough' with my pup and leading her to her bed if she was getting too full on and harassing the other guy - now if i say it she automatically goes to her bed and sulks!

muddypaws

rottie 11 wrote: »

Ye are all saying hes playing but ye dont see him attackin the king charles. I had dogs all my life so ya im very unexperienced? I know how to train a dog he sits, waits 4 his food, gives the paw , lies dwn , hes fully potty trained but he just wont stop biting

You said earlier that you have to push his bum down to get him to sit

Nobody on here has seen him biting, which is why it has been suggested that you go to a class, you've been given the details of a trainer, they will be able to see what exactly is going on, and would be the best person to help you.

rottie 11

Ok thanks for all the replies. Il get onto a dog trainer and see what they think.

sillysmiles

@ rottie 11
Let us know what the trainer says please. I'd be really interested in hearing some of the feedback from the trainer and what s/he suggests.

Reati

muddypaws wrote: »

The whole alpha behaviour theory was based on a flawed study, it was on captive wolves, who don't behave the same way as wild wolves, or indeed as domestic dogs, if you google it, you can find more info.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090521112711.htm

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1558787808001159

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/canine-corner/201007/canine-dominance-is-the-concept-the-alpha-dog-valid

Really interesting reads. It's great to see that it's being debunked as a myth - thanks for posting the links. This will be great info when I get a dog one day.