Limerick v. Wexford, SHC QF, Semple Stadium @ 2pm

bruschi

DaveR1 wrote: »

Don't know where you are pulling this figure from - official attendance last saturday was 18,964.

Thurles will not be full at the weekend, everyone will get a ticket and the atmosphere will be great. If it was in Croke Park, the stadium would be half full and lifeless. The atmosphere in Thurles will be unreal, 3 matches full stadium, sun shining. What more could you want!!!

and most acknowledged Wexford far outnumbered Waterford at the game. Maybe not 15k, but it wouldnt have been far off it. Even Waterford fans thought they were outnumbered 4 to 1, which would give it the 15k figure I am saying.

shmeee

bruschi wrote: »

I think its stupid Wexford trying to get it changed, but I'd say its just posturing to get more tickets. But how can you say that the GAA were selling them since last Tuesday and if the demand was there? Wexford werent even qualified last Tuesday when the venue and times were announced along with the start of the sale of tickets. Wexford are creating the demand.



clubs in Wexford have orders in for 5,000 stand tickets. They have been given 2,000. That doesnt make much sense to me, especially considering there was well over 15,000 Wexford fans at their last 2 games.

How many Wexford fans made the journey to Ennis?

1,000 max?

Pure bandwagon is all it is not, best fans in the world and so on.

bruschi

shmeee wrote: »

How many Wexford fans made the journey to Ennis?

1,000 max?

Pure bandwagon is all it is not, best fans in the world and so on.

is this some sort of new phenomenon in GAA? Who said they were the best fans in the world? the same thing comes up year after year with every big game thats on. they had a big crowd for their last 2 games, do you say the same thing when the AI final comes around and people cant get tickets? ye only had x amount at the first game, sure why would ye need more now.

Podge83

Its not band waggonery, its human nature. All Counties, All Countries, All Sports!!!!

Larbre34

Semple being 'Home of the Quarter Finals' is a nonsense, they only came in around 1997 or so

As soon as Brooks was off the scene, these games should have reverted to Croke Park for reasons of capacity and due recognition to their status.

If Wexford lose to Limerick in Thurles, they wont have seen the inside of Croker all season, which is ridiculous.

shmeee

bruschi wrote: »

is this some sort of new phenomenon in GAA? Who said they were the best fans in the world? the same thing comes up year after year with every big game thats on. they had a big crowd for their last 2 games, do you say the same thing when the AI final comes around and people cant get tickets? ye only had x amount at the first game, sure why would ye need more now.

Yesterday in the Indo,a mention of Wexford being the best fans in the article on the match.

A 1,000 or so in Ennis is poor, and the county board said genuine fans aren't getting a seat. How many genuine fans do each county have is the question?

Yes obviously, more people will go to the bigger games but this match will not be sold out, no fear of that. And if the genuine fans can't stand for 70 minutes on a terrace to watch their beloved county, then they can't complain.

*yes, I'm aware kids and elderly people would find the terrace quiet difficult before it's mentioned.

shmeee

Larbre34 wrote: »

Semple being 'Home of the Quarter Finals' is a nonsense, they only came in around 1997 or so

As soon as Brooks was off the scene, these games should have reverted to Croke Park for reasons of capacity and due recognition to their status.

If Wexford lose to Limerick in Thurles, they wont have seen the inside of Croker all season, which is ridiculous.

There was 33,000 in Thurles for last years 1/4 finals. Why would the GAA think that Thurles is not big enough again this year? No reason whatsoever.

bruschi

shmeee wrote: »

Yesterday in the Indo,a mention of Wexford being the best fans in the article on the match.

A 1,000 or so in Ennis is poor, and the county board said genuine fans aren't getting a seat. How many genuine fans do each county have is the question?

Yes obviously, more people will go to the bigger games but this match will not be sold out, no fear of that. And if the genuine fans can't stand for 70 minutes on a terrace to watch their beloved county, then they can't complain.

*yes, I'm aware kids and elderly people would find the terrace quiet difficult before it's mentioned.

I'll be on the terrace myself, but you dont magically turn up at the time the game starts and leave as it ends. Anyone who will watch both (if not all 3 games) will be standing for at least 4 hours and walk to and from the ground. I know people who wouldnt be able for that, and as you say, kids and elderly people would find it difficult. So why eliminate them?

2,000 seating tickets in a ground that supposedly has 24,000 seats is a ridiculous amount to be given. the GAA made a mess of this. Selling tickets before one of the counties was known, and then giving them a paltry amount was really bad management.

Browney7

Larbre34 wrote: »

Semple being 'Home of the Quarter Finals' is a nonsense, they only came in around 1997 or so

As soon as Brooks was off the scene, these games should have reverted to Croke Park for reasons of capacity and due recognition to their status.

If Wexford lose to Limerick in Thurles, they wont have seen the inside of Croker all season, which is ridiculous.

If they wanted to see Croke Park they should have beaten Dublin for a spot in the Leinster final.

bennyl10

Larbre34 wrote: »

If Wexford lose to Limerick in Thurles, they wont have seen the inside of Croker all season, which is ridiculous.

Same goes for Limerick and Tipperary if they lose.. It's not ridiculous in the slightest!!

Also tbe statement coming from.Wexford.. They simply don't want terrace tickets as the people want to sit?.

From the Wexford chairman ""I just don't understand the logic. Why make 20,000 people stand when there is no need for it. They're not patrons, they're customers."

Boo hoo feckin take a terrace ticket and be happy!

bruschi

Browney7 wrote: »

If they wanted to see Croke Park they should have beaten Dublin for a spot in the Leinster final.

absolutely. Croke Park shouldnt be some sort of divine right. You earn your place there. The game wont be moved, and its ridiculous to even ask for it to be moved.

paddy no 11

GAA made a mess of this, but dublin wont use a fraction of their tickets and these should filter back to wexford when not used, plus limerick tipp have bought tickets on line and id say limerick will have returns. based on last years 34k its hard to see it selling out. Just some wexford fans will get their tickets late in the day.

shmeee

bruschi wrote: »

I'll be on the terrace myself, but you dont magically turn up at the time the game starts and leave as it ends. Anyone who will watch both (if not all 3 games) will be standing for at least 4 hours and walk to and from the ground. I know people who wouldnt be able for that, and as you say, kids and elderly people would find it difficult. So why eliminate them?

2,000 seating tickets in a ground that supposedly has 24,000 seats is a ridiculous amount to be given. the GAA made a mess of this. Selling tickets before one of the counties was known, and then giving them a paltry amount was really bad management.

There is 26,589 seats in Thurles. Seating tickets were on general sale online and in shops up until lunch hour yesterday. Wexford bet Waterford over 36 hours earlier and had the option to buy this tickets. They had the chance.

gizmo23

I think comparing last years matchs to this years matches is a moot point is correct me if i am wrong but wexford footballers were playing in longford on the same day so that took some of the followers from the game. Also Limerick would also bring alot more followers then kilkenny and the same for tipp as supposed waterford.

The fact is 2000 stand tickets for one of the sides in an all ireland quarter final is just not right . there is over 5000 been requested to the wexford cb from clubs. In the 3000 that wont get stand tickets are a percentage that wont be able stand for that long for a game.

Wexford people are not looking for more than Tipp Limerick or Dublin. We are looking for our equal share

bruschi

shmeee wrote: »

There is 26,589 seats in Thurles. Seating tickets were on general sale online and in shops up until lunch hour yesterday. Wexford bet Waterford over 36 hours earlier and had the option to buy this tickets. They had the chance.

they werent. I tried get them myself yesterday. The new stand was sold out and there was limited single seats available in the old stand. hence I bought terrace tickets.

and you are still missing my main point. Giving them 2,000 tickets when they have that capacity is ridiculous.

Mountainlad

The way tickets are distributed is the Counties with the largest populations get most tickets as far as I know, which makes sense though dunno if Dublin's allocation will be that big. I think theyll return plenty anyway.

Joke that they sold tickets on general release before the quarter finalists were confirmed though.

savannahkat

Talk about stupidity. Just when Wexford needed to concentrate on the team, off they go complaining about tickets and if not tickets the quality of the tickets, having to stand instead of sit and then to go look for a change of venue which was never going to happen. Talk about taking your eye off the ball just before throw in. If they are beaten I for one wont have any sympathy for them after this carry on and I was delighted to see them beat both Clare and Waterford.

AGC

The chairman makes a valid point. 2,000 seated tickets for an All Ireland quarter final is wrong when the facilities are available in other grounds to hold more but it is too late in the day now.

I am sure many Wexford, Dublin, Limerick, Tipp etc...fans go through their respected clubs to get tickets and wouldn't have gone online.

Just poor ticket allocating again.

AGC

shmeee wrote: »

There was 33,000 in Thurles for last years 1/4 finals. Why would the GAA think that Thurles is not big enough again this year? No reason whatsoever.

There is a massive reason. Tipp were not involved last year. They could easily bring 33,000 themselves to a 1/4 final.

bruschi

savannahkat wrote: »

Talk about stupidity. Just when Wexford needed to concentrate on the team, off they go complaining about tickets and if not tickets the quality of the tickets, having to stand instead of sit and then to go look for a change of venue which was never going to happen. Talk about taking your eye off the ball just before throw in. If they are beaten I for one wont have any sympathy for them after this carry on and I was delighted to see them beat both Clare and Waterford.

yeah, Liam Dunne and the players are hopping over it. They've been really distracted alright.

but yet you dont think being given an allocation of 2,000 seats in a stadium that seats 26,000 is not worthy of complaining about?

citykat

Wtf is this thread about? The match or the venue? Same s**** as the Munster final. Only one Cork fan posted he couldn't get tickets. He should've chanced his arm. I passed half a dozen touts between the city and PUC.

JeffKenna

AGC wrote: »

There is a massive reason. Tipp were not involved last year. They could easily bring 33,000 themselves to a 1/4 final.

No they couldn't.

MisterAnarchy

marco_polo wrote: »

Its great that it looks like the QFs will have a serious attendance for the first time in ages.

34k last year and 39k the previous year ,pretty good attendances .

AGC

JeffKenna wrote: »

No they couldn't.

Sorry an exaggeration.

I was in Thurles in 2011 for Tipp v Cork and there was in around 35,000.

There will be bigger crowds this year than last. I don't think the issue is the sell out, the issue is the lack of seats and the distribution of tickets.

The Letheram

Browney7 wrote: »

If they wanted to see Croke Park they should have beaten Dublin for a spot in the Leinster final.

Candidate for most ridiculous post of the day. Sure if Meath, to take a random example, wanted a leinster title they should have just beaten Dublin on Sunday.

Browney7

The Letheram wrote: »

Candidate for most ridiculous post of the day. Sure if Meath, to take a random example, wanted a leinster title they should have just beaten Dublin on Sunday.

Why should there be an entitlement to play in Croke Park like a previous poster suggested?

savannahkat

bruschi wrote: »

yeah, Liam Dunne and the players are hopping over it. They've been really distracted alright.

but yet you dont think being given an allocation of 2,000 seats in a stadium that seats 26,000 is not worthy of complaining about?

No I do not think it is worth complaining about. As I have already said it is plain stupidity when there was never going to be a change of venue. It is pure distraction and nothing else. If there was a snowballs hell of getting a change a venue there might be some justification but there was not and is not. If for a second you think that Liam Dunne and the players have not been distracted think again, every dog in the street in Wexford have jumped on the bandwagon and are looking for tickets. The first place they will go is to players and management if they have even the slightest nodding acquaintance with any of them.

The Letheram

Browney7 wrote: »

Why should there be an entitlement to play in Croke Park like a previous poster suggested?

Not saying there is. Just saying that "wanting" to play in Croke park is nothing to do with the call to change the game. It is to do with Wexford getting 1/13th of the allocation of stand tickets.

bruschi

savannahkat wrote: »

No I do not think it is worth complaining about. As I have already said it is plain stupidity when there was never going to be a change of venue. It is pure distraction and nothing else. If there was a snowballs hell of getting a change a venue there might be some justification but there was not and is not. If for a second you think that Liam Dunne and the players have not been distracted think again, every dog in the street in Wexford have jumped on the bandwagon and are looking for tickets. The first place they will go is to players and management if they have even the slightest nodding acquaintance with any of them.

so you think they should just accept 2,000 tickets for seating in a 26,000 seat stadium? And you think that would make it easier on the players by having less tickets than the demand is there? By trying to get more tickets surely any logical sense would say that means there would be less people hassling players.

Or you cant see that the request of a change of ground is making shapes about getting more tickets? Of course the venue wont be changed, but surely making noise would force the GAA's hand a bit more.

savannahkat

bruschi wrote: »

so you think they should just accept 2,000 tickets for seating in a 26,000 seat stadium? And you think that would make it easier on the players by having less tickets than the demand is there? By trying to get more tickets surely any logical sense would say that means there would be less people hassling players.

Or you cant see that the request of a change of ground is making shapes about getting more tickets? Of course the venue wont be changed, but surely making noise would force the GAA's hand a bit more.

This whole thread has proven my point it is all about the quality of the tickets and not even the number of same, rather than on the game itself. The same is happening and even more so in Wexford itself and has to impact on the management and team. They knew they were not going to change anything so why bother with the whole distraction. They could have vented their opinion after the match.

Mountainlad

savannahkat wrote: »

No I do not think it is worth complaining about. As I have already said it is plain stupidity when there was never going to be a change of venue. It is pure distraction and nothing else. If there was a snowballs hell of getting a change a venue there might be some justification but there was not and is not. If for a second you think that Liam Dunne and the players have not been distracted think again, every dog in the street in Wexford have jumped on the bandwagon and are looking for tickets. The first place they will go is to players and management if they have even the slightest nodding acquaintance with any of them.

They want more tickets not really a venue change. And from the county boards point of view, they don't want to be seen doing nothing for their players.

What's with the indignant attitude over people annoyed that they are being given a poor initial allocation, and also not even getting a fair chance of purchasing them through the general release.

And it has absolutely nothing to do with Liam Dunne and the players. I really don't understand your attitude. Were you in charge of allocating the stand tickets or something?

washman3

shmeee wrote: »

Stand tickets are not sold out, the stand tickets that went on general sale are. All the clubs still have tickets to distribute around and county boards likewise. A few thousand go on general sale online and in the shops. The rest go to clubs.

Many people are over reacting in a big way. Anyone that wants to be at the match on Sunday will be. It won't be a sell out.

Last years 1/4 finals in Thurles involving Cork, Kilkenny, Galway and Clare pulled in only 34,000. So add in another 10,000 max, still way below capacity.

most sensible post of this thread so far.!!
Shmeee is correct. Everyone that wants to be in Thurles will get a ticket.
There was a lot of hype around Limerick too in the lead up to the Munster final because PUC was restricted (supposedly) to 36,800
But as the game drew closer there were plenty of tickets around, always happens, and will be the same come Sunday.
People need to chill out, especially Wexford people.!
Does anyone really believe that there will only be 2,000 Wexford people seated in Thurles.
Cop on FFS. Relax and come Friday the tickets will make their way to each county.

BTW, are Wexford the only county who do not have a thread on Boards.ie Gaa forum.?? Surely some one of those 30,000 die hard fans could start one.

Mountainlad

washman3 wrote: »

most sensible post of this thread so far.!!
Shmeee is correct. Everyone that wants to be in Thurles will get a ticket.
There was a lot of hype around Limerick too in the lead up to the Munster final because PUC was restricted (supposedly) to 36,800
But as the game drew closer there were plenty of tickets around, always happens, and will be the same come Sunday.
People need to chill out, especially Wexford people.!
Does anyone really believe that there will only be 2,000 Wexford people seated in Thurles.
Cop on FFS. Relax and come Friday the tickets will make their way to each county.

BTW, are Wexford the only county who do not have a thread on Boards.ie Gaa forum.?? Surely some one of those 30,000 die hard fans could start one.

So they have to have 30,000 fans for the allocation of 2,000 to be a joke?

If Kilkenny or Limerick got 2,000 stand tickets I can't see people taking it lying down. There will be more, but there wouldn't if everyone put up and shut up.

Fireball07

If Wexford were only allocated 2,000 seated tickets and every other county competing got more, then that is unfair, they have a right to complain. How many seated tickets did every other county get, do we know this?


I don't think Wexford really expected the venue to be moved, and it's never going to happen at this stage... I don't think anybody expects this to sell out. That is just sensationalism to try and get more tickets, which is fair enough.


I don't have a problem with Wexford creating a fuss to try and get as many tickets as possible for their fans if there is a big demand.

Grats

Mountainlad wrote: »

They want more tickets not really a venue change. And from the county boards point of view, they don't want to be seen doing nothing for their players.

What's with the indignant attitude over people annoyed that they are being given a poor initial allocation, and also not even getting a fair chance of purchasing them through the general release.

And it has absolutely nothing to do with Liam Dunne and the players. I really don't understand your attitude. Were you in charge of allocating the stand tickets or something?

As you would say yourself - what's it got to do with you!

Grats

Fireball07 wrote: »

If Wexford were only allocated 2,000 seated tickets and every other county competing got more, then that is unfair, they have a right to complain. How many seated tickets did every other county get, do we know this?


I don't think Wexford really expected the venue to be moved, and it's never going to happen at this stage... I don't think anybody expects this to sell out. That is just sensationalism to try and get more tickets, which is fair enough.


I don't have a problem with Wexford creating a fuss to try and get as many tickets as possible for their fans if there is a big demand.

Exactly. A complete cock up. As was posted previously, tickets were on sale last week before the last team into the quarter finals was known. The other three counties would have had a head start unless that is the GAA held back a quarter of the tickets for Wexford they do get their quarter share, buy them and get to Thurles and roar on the team no matter where your tickets are for.

Mountainlad

Grats wrote: »

As you would say yourself - what's it got to do with you!

Mother is from Wexford, I have cousins from Wexford etc.

I notice it's the same two KK boys having a go again about the tickets. Was wondering when you'd join the party. Given the way they turned out at their last game, in yet own City, I would have thought that ye of all people could see that 2,000 stand tickets out of 26,000 is unfair. Not sure how much tickets.ie and centra shops got, not much I would say.

In any event, Limerick, Tipp and Dublin fans also had the opportunity to buy that in advance of Wexford which is also unfair.


I see now you actually agree and just wanted to have a cut. I guess at least you've a bit of common sense anyway.

KevIRL

Another good reason to have a Season Ticket. Heard from someone involved in doing turnstiles at Nowlan Park that Waterford and Wexford only have 150 Season Ticket holders between them, was quite surprised at the low number

Rightwing

I imagine the real reason Wex want the game up in croke park is they know Limk have a dreadful record there.

Grats

Mountainlad wrote: »

Mother is from Wexford, I have cousins from Wexford etc.

I notice it's the same two KK boys having a go again about the tickets. Was wondering when you'd join the party. Given the way they turned out at their last game, in yet own City, I would have thought that ye of all people could see that 2,000 stand tickets out of 26,000 is unfair. Not sure how much tickets.ie and centra shops got, not much I would say.

In any event, Limerick, Tipp and Dublin fans also had the opportunity to buy that in advance of Wexford which is also unfair.


I see now you actually agree and just wanted to have a cut. I guess at least you've a bit of common sense anyway.

So we must declare our family tree to participate on particular forums! Joke, btw!

Yes I do fully agree on ticket situation. Complete shambles. Wonder who is actually handling it - Croke Park, Munster Council or Tipp County Board?

shmeee

Fireball07 wrote: »

If Wexford were only allocated 2,000 seated tickets and every other county competing got more, then that is unfair, they have a right to complain. How many seated tickets did every other county get, do we know this?


I don't think Wexford really expected the venue to be moved, and it's never going to happen at this stage... I don't think anybody expects this to sell out. That is just sensationalism to try and get more tickets, which is fair enough.


I don't have a problem with Wexford creating a fuss to try and get as many tickets as possible for their fans if there is a big demand.

To be honest seated tickets are difficult to come by in Tipp also but no one is complaining yet, they always surface! I've mine got so am happy, a few rang me today asking for tickets also and nothing I could do really, but have them in mind as come Friday and Saturday they will be sent back from other counties and so. And I'd be confident on getting my hands on some.

washman3

Mountainlad wrote: »

So they have to have 30,000 fans for the allocation of 2,000 to be a joke?

If Kilkenny or Limerick got 2,000 stand tickets I can't see people taking it lying down. There will be more, but there wouldn't if everyone put up and shut up.

Saying that Wex have 30,000 looking for 2,000 tickets is rubbish and you know it. At the moment, Wex have 2,000 stand tickets and come Thurs/Fri that will double/treble.

Don't know how many more times we have to explain it.
There will be PLENTY tickets for this game.
Late last Sunday night, Old Stand tickets (best stand in Thurles) could be bought on tickets.ie and printed there and then at no extra cost. I don't know at what stage they sold out but I assume it was sometime Monday.

Personally, I forwarded my name to my club last weekend for a ticket.
Tomorrow night our tickets will be distributed, I will get a ticket, it may be a stand or a terrace, I don't know. Just happy that my team are still in the championship and I will be there to see them.

sjb25

Wexford gaa conceding defeat? http://www.wexfordgaa.ie/2014/07/new-ticket-information/

citykat

There's only on reason for the clamour over tickets. This is going to be the end of the road for WX. It's going to boil down to who can convert more of their chances. In spite of some wastefulness in the Munster final, I think LK have the better forwards. I also think their backs can contain the WX forwards and keep their scoring low. In Mulcahy and Dowling, LK have real goal threat. Rossiter will be sorely missed here. They didn't score a goal in the MF as they were outnumbered (due to their own tactics). I would love to see WX do it and make the semi but I think this match has come too soon in their development.

marco_polo

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

34k last year and 39k the previous year ,pretty good attendances .

Bit higher than I realised in 2012 thats not too bad I suppose, still think low thirties is mildly disappointimg for a double header at that stage but I guess alot depends on what teams are involved, how far they have to travel and how optimistic the supporters are etc.

TheMilkyPirate

Came on here hoping to read about the game have instead sifted through four pages of ****e about tickets. Whoever wants a ticket will get one end of.

yohan the great

There were a few hundred Wexford supporters in Ennis a few weeks ago and now they are looking for thousands of tickets

hawthorn

How about this? After giving up hope of getting a stand ticket online I decided to settle for a terrace one. So I went to book one for the Town End and got this:

Under the heading "Seat" : G18 848

Ok so I cancelled that and tried under Killinan End and got

G10 286

Whats all that about???

And to everyone saying there will be plenty of tickets on Thursday and Friday...where? It says all stands sold out. Not everyone has access to a club.

Tickets were on sale since early last week (of course I was lazy, and waited) so I suppose in fairness to Wexford they couldnt buy them at that stage. County allocation is different.

h

larrymiller

yohan the great wrote: »

There were a few hundred Wexford supporters in Ennis a few weeks ago and now they are looking for thousands of tickets

In fairness that was one game,
Also a Saturday, also 220 km away, also it was on tv.
There's been a strong consistent following through the league aswell!
And this happens every year.
Ever wonder about all those who will only go the the all Ireland final? Every year? No matter what county?
If your team are doing sh!t it's hard to pull a crowd if there in form and a bit of a stirr and a buzz people will follow the team

bennyl10

hawthorn wrote: »

How about this? After giving up hope of getting a stand ticket online I decided to settle for a terrace one. So I went to book one for the Town End and got this:

Under the heading "Seat" : G18 848

Ok so I cancelled that and tried under Killinan End and got

G10 286

Whats all that about???

And to everyone saying there will be plenty of tickets on Thursday and Friday...where? It says all stands sold out. Not everyone has access to a club.

Tickets were on sale since early last week (of course I was lazy, and waited) so I suppose in fairness to Wexford they couldnt buy them at that stage. County allocation is different.

h

The G number is just tracking purposes for tickets.ie, theyre standing tickets.