Limerick v. Wexford, SHC QF, Semple Stadium @ 2pm

Hooked

letowski wrote: »

Am I the only one who thinks TJ talks at a 100mph!!!

Maybe on TV, post match... He's inclined to be excited and rushed.

Day to day TJ (I work with him) is a good few notches slower than that interview.

Delighted for him, his back room staff and the team. Would love to see them put in a performance against KK. Win, lose or draw, so long as the team perform to their potential.

Lapin

bazza935 wrote: »

Wexford found out. Never as good as some people were rating them after a few good matches

One bad game doesn't make for a bad season.

Wexford have some great hurling in them but never reached their potential today.

It will be difficult for them to pick themselves up after this but when the dust settles, their supporters can look back on a better Summer than most of them expected.

Mountainlad

corny wrote: »

Its a symptom of the malaise that donnem33 explained (and you ignored) to you. The game, like most things in life, starts in the head. You don't get the attitude right everything goes wrong. Men don't attack the ball, they're slow to react, their lack of conviction shows in their passing/shooting etc. Can't believe this has to be explained to you.

They've had a weeks rest ffs. They weren't playing last night.

I asked him what were the signs of physical tiredness? Are you only allowed to be tired after 50 minutes of a game?

For me the most apparent part of that is that Lee Chin couldn't get away from his men in midfield. I know Browne and Ryan are electric but Chin is easily as physical and they dominated today.

To me that's not mental. You disagree, fine.

Rightwing

Well we won this easy, just as I expected. I thought easy would be 6/7 points though.

Wexford were an absolute shambles and I thought we were quite poor in the first 15 mins.

We can def trouble KK but need a big improvement on that.

citykat

Wexford finally found out today. Didn't expect them to capitulate to the extent they did but they wouldn't beat Limerick anyway - they're just not good enough. Physical fatigue is just an excuse. Weeks rest is more than enough for these lads - they're superfit, low body fat etc, etc. Whatever about the Clare games, the Waterford game was not in the same league as regards exertion. Wexford weren't switched on particularly in the half forward area. They got completely cleaned and Limerick were able to deliver ball after ball into the FF line. Wexford FB line couldn't withstand the deluge and Mulcahy, Dowling, Breen filled their boots. There was no ball going into McDonald so he made very little impact on the game.

Why were Wexford so flat? Maybe the hype got to them. Maybe all the rubbish about tickets. Maybe they underestimated Limerick. A focused Wexford would have put it up to Limerick more but would not have beaten them. Liam Dunne still has plenty of work ahead of him.

larrymiller

Cody won't be worried

bennyl10

larrymiller wrote: »

Cody won't be worried

This is the attitude limerick will be hoping for, sneak in wiht no pressure behind them, much like clare last year, and maybe steal it on the day!

Rightwing

The 4 best teams left in the cuntry are still in it.

Limerick are outsiders at 11/2, but no one is writing us off. To beat KK, we need everything to go our way, then we can beat them.

washman3

citykat wrote: »

Wexford finally found out today. Didn't expect them to capitulate to the extent they did but they wouldn't beat Limerick anyway - they're just not good enough. Physical fatigue is just an excuse. Weeks rest is more than enough for these lads - they're superfit, low body fat etc, etc. Whatever about the Clare games, the Waterford game was not in the same league as regards exertion. Wexford weren't switched on particularly in the half forward area. They got completely cleaned and Limerick were able to deliver ball after ball into the FF line. Wexford FB line couldn't withstand the deluge and Mulcahy, Dowling, Breen filled their boots. There was no ball going into McDonald so he made very little impact on the game.

Why were Wexford so flat? Maybe the hype got to them. Maybe all the rubbish about tickets. Maybe they underestimated Limerick. A focused Wexford would have put it up to Limerick more but would not have beaten them. Liam Dunne still has plenty of work ahead of him.

Not just Wexford. Every media pundit in the country tipped them to win.
Even Cyril Farrell (as such)

Rightwing

washman3 wrote: »

Not just Wexford. Every media pundit in the country tipped them to win.
Even Cyril Farrell (as such)

They didn't.

But most did. Shows some punters here know as much. Considine/Jamsie O Connor were 2 I saw tipping Limk.

Wexford have a had a good campaign, but they are way behind likes of Limerick.

Rightwing

Liam Dunne was talking about giving someone a 'real hiding' before the match if they cut down on wides. A little bit ironic.

Chuckle chuckle.

niallo27

bennyl10 wrote: »

This is the attitude limerick will be hoping for, sneak in wiht no pressure behind them, much like clare last year, and maybe steal it on the day!

Kilkenny don't really do complacency though. Cody won't allow it. I think limerick will really rattle Kilkenny but I can see Kilkenny winning out by 3 or 4 points.

Browney7

washman3 wrote: »

Not just Wexford. Every media pundit in the country tipped them to win.
Even Cyril Farrell (as such)

Yeah thought that was strange. Dooley, Farrell, Duignan all went for Wexford. Suits limerick fine. We do like a good ambush in fairness

Browney7

I'm no fan of Davy but he's a very good analyst in the studio. He adds a lot to the panel and discussion in fairness to him.

citykat

Rightwing wrote: »

Liam Dunne was talking about giving someone a 'real hiding' before the match if they cut down on wides.

He's a bigger eejit if he said that. Thought he would have been around too long to come out with something like that.

Mountainlad

Browney7 wrote: »

Yeah thought that was strange. Dooley, Farrell, Duignan all went for Wexford. Suits limerick fine. We do like a good ambush in fairness

Duignan has been tipping the underdog in every game since the Waterford v Cork replay Im pretty sure.

larrymiller

Word Is Limerick have booked the city west hotel for September already and a celebration song is due to be released in the coming days

bennyl10

larrymiller wrote: »

Word Is Limerick have booked the city west hotel for September already and a celebration song is due to be released in the coming days

Booking the hotel, fair enough im sure all 4 counties have..
Doubt a celebration song already, especially after last year

slegs

larrymiller wrote: »

Word Is Limerick have booked the city west hotel for September already and a celebration song is due to be released in the coming days

Wexford lad a little on the sore side?

glued

larrymiller wrote: »

Word Is Limerick have booked the city west hotel for September already and a celebration song is due to be released in the coming days

Most Limerick fans in Semple today were no more than cautiously optimistic about facing Kilkenny.

marienbad

larrymiller wrote: »

Word Is Limerick have booked the city west hotel for September already and a celebration song is due to be released in the coming days

Actually I think they have just taken up the Wexford cancellation .

Mountainlad

I know it had no consequence on the game but having seen it again certain O Hanlon connected with the catching hand.

Will be interested to see if they show it again.

larrymiller

slegs wrote: »

Wexford lad a little on the sore side?

Nope I'm a cat! Meow!

Straight Talker

larrymiller wrote: »

Word Is Limerick have booked the city west hotel for September already and a celebration song is due to be released in the coming days

24 points Larry stop chewing on the sour grapes and take that home with you!Well done to Wexford on a great summer but i believed Limerick would make a huge statement today and they did just that.Of course Kilkenny will be a big challenge.The cats are a bit off their 2006 to 2009 peak but their still a very good team.However i honestly think this Limerick team will give Kilkenny one hell of a battle.They hit 16 wides today so that goes to show how dominant Limerick were but they need to cut down on such wastage from here on in.

larrymiller

Straight Talker wrote: »

24 points Larry stop chewing on the sour grapes and take that home with you!Well done to Wexford on a great summer but i believed Limerick would make a huge statement today and they did just that.Of course Kilkenny will be a big challenge.The cats are a bit off their 2006 to 2009 peak but their still a very good team.However i honestly think this Limerick team will give Kilkenny one hell of a battle.They hit 16 wides today so that goes to show how dominant Limerick were but they need to cut down on such wastage from here on in.

Again I'm a Kilkenny fan! Why would I have sour grapes?
Limerick will do a wexford on it in 2 weeks!

mickmackey1

larrymiller wrote: »

Limerick will do a wexford on it in 2 weeks!

And we'll never win 5 in a row either

larrymiller

mickmackey1 wrote: »

And we'll never win 5 in a row either

34 titles softens the blow!

bennyl10

larrymiller wrote: »

34 titles softens the blow!

Someone seems to be getting awfully touchy..

Nervous abous 2 weeks time are we?

Caveat_

larrymiller wrote: »

34 titles softens the blow!

Yawn.

My Limerick mates predicted a big win, I of course never believed it. Fair balls to them. Sorry for the Wexford lads but them be the breaks.


Pity Dublin couldn't have pushed on today. The Semi's will be interesting.

A bridge too far for Wexford today. Give Limerick their credit they were impressive and clinical but its probably a season too soon for Wexford. They cant be too despondent after what has been a year of real progress. They can develop into real contenders over the next few years. Whether it was lethargy or stage fright today (or perhaps even both) there is certainly not the gulf in class that the scoreline suggested. In time it could be a good thing to keep them grounded.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

A bridge too far for Wexford today. Give Limerick their credit they were impressive and clinical but its probably a season too soon for Wexford. They cant be too despondent after what has been a year of real progress. They can develop into real contenders over the next few years. Whether it was lethargy or stage fright today (or perhaps even both) there is certainly not the gulf in class that the scoreline suggested. In time it could be a good thing to keep them grounded.

agree with some of what you say - early days etc - but there actually was a "gulf in class" today

Lapin

Lapin wrote: »

TJ would make a great greyhound race commentator

Or an auctioneer at the cattle mart

donnem33

Deleted User wrote: »

A bridge too far for Wexford today. Give Limerick their credit they were impressive and clinical but its probably a season too soon for Wexford. They cant be too despondent after what has been a year of real progress. They can develop into real contenders over the next few years. Whether it was lethargy or stage fright today (or perhaps even both) there is certainly not the gulf in class that the scoreline suggested. In time it could be a good thing to keep them grounded.

Perhaps it can be argued that there is a gulf in class. wexford after all struggled to put away 13 man clare.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

agree with some of what you say - early days etc - but there actually was a "gulf in class" today

To me though, Wexford are better then their performance suggests. I mean you dont beat the defending All Ireland champions if you havent something about you. Still a bit raw and naive and perhaps a mixture of stage fright or fatigue. Things wouldn't come off for them either. Just like with the Tipp footballers yesterday, they still have alot of building to do. Today shouldnt underline Wexford's season. Theyve made huge progress but perhaps need to focus on promotion to 1A as a target for next season.

donnem33

donnem33 wrote: »

Perhaps it can be argued that there is a gulf in class. wexford after all struggled to put away 13 man clare.

Fair point but they are a very young team at the end of the day. No lack of class but rather a rawness or naivety about them. They were arguably in bonus territory after beating Clare.

grimbergen

I have to say O'Hanlon's strike on Dowling was a sickener - 30 seconds to go and down by 20 points and he does that to a fellow player facing into an All-Ireland semi-final. Knew exactly what he was doing too.

Gone way down in my estimation.

Fireball07

grimbergen wrote: »

I have to say O'Hanlon's strike on Dowling was a sickener - 30 seconds to go and down by 20 points and he does that to a fellow player facing into an All-Ireland semi-final. Knew exactly what he was doing too.

Gone way down in my estimation.

Yeah... was in front of me and I thought that was a broken wrist for Dowling, thank fcuk it appears that he's okay. On first glance on tv, it looked innocuous enough, but it's all about intent... he was nowhere near the ball, went straight for Dowling's hand and could have broken it. Deserved red card for sure, glad that it didn't affect the outcome like 96.

citykat

Fireball07 wrote: »

Yeah... was in front of me and I thought that was a broken wrist for Dowling, thank fcuk it appears that he's okay. On first glance on tv, it looked innocuous enough, but it's all about intent... he was nowhere near the ball, went straight for Dowling's hand and could have broken it. Deserved red card for sure, glad that it didn't affect the outcome like 96.

Credit to Dowling also for his reaction. He didn't make a meal of it and even offered to shake Hanlon's hand after the card was given.

grimbergen

Fireball07 wrote: »

Yeah... was in front of me and I thought that was a broken wrist for Dowling, thank fcuk it appears that he's okay. On first glance on tv, it looked innocuous enough, but it's all about intent... he was nowhere near the ball, went straight for Dowling's hand and could have broken it. Deserved red card for sure, glad that it didn't affect the outcome like 96.

Heat of battle, a point down with a minute to go you could blame adrenalin maybe...but this match had slowed down to challenge match pace and he was a yard away from the ball. Disgraceful.

Straight Talker

A lot of talk about Wexford tiring out.They just meet a superior team and a superior challenge to an off form Clare team and a Waterford team with a clueless manager and they were found out for the average side that they are.That's the long and short of it.Wexford didn't fall apart today they were ripped apart by a Limerick team that were well primed for battle.All this talk about tiredness is just papering over the fact that a limited Wexford team were dominated on the pitch and on the line by a far superior and far more proven team.

Amprodude

Limerick will have learned nothing from this game and it will be a factor against KK. Playing games weekend and out told its tale for Wexford.

zombieHanalei

I'm not surprised that is your interpretation, based on your comments in the lead up you were never going to give Limerick credit regardless of the outcome. Your prediction that "Wexford will take Limerick at the weekend" was wrong by at least 25 points. You made that prediction knowing Wexford had played the previous three weekends, you didn't consider fatigue an issue then but all of a sudden it matters now, how convenient!

Put simply, Limerick are not as bad as you thought/hoped they were.

slegs

Amprodude wrote: »

Limerick will have learned nothing from this game and it will be a factor against KK. Playing games weekend and out told its tale for Wexford.

Yawn, your credibility is shot after your prematch ramblings. You were quite clear that Wexford would win this one handy enough

Rightwing

I don't know if tiredness was a factor or not. What I do know is a lot of analysts like Deignan got it so badly wrong, they don't know what they are talking about.

If it was tiredness, how could they be tipping Wex beforehand. Then afterwards saying 'it was tiredness'. Shambolic.

robbiezero

How did Liam Dunne not make changes in his defence until late in the second half? Surely a switch of corner backs at the very least should have been tried. Liam Ryan was getting an awful roasting off Mulcahy and Rossiter wasn't faring much better against Downes and Breen. Shore had a nightmare game on the wing also.

bruschi

Fair play to Limerick, a comprehensive demolition job and clinical finishing. Could have been even more. Just a shame Wexford never showed at all. I dont think the fatigue was that much a factor. Not so early on at least. They just looked way off the pace of the game and couldnt do simple things right. A real pity, as I certainly think they are far better than they showed yesterday. Also unfortunate for Limerick not to get a better test before they play Kilkenny too. Best of luck to them anyway, would be great to see them win it out now.

washman3

Amprodude wrote: »

Limerick will have learned nothing from this game and it will be a factor against KK. Playing games weekend and out told its tale for Wexford.

Tipp will have learned less from their win over Dublin. Will that affect their performance V Cork in the semi.? Not in the slightest.
If Wexford were tired, what excuse would you offer for Dublin's display.?

Browney7

grimbergen wrote: »

I have to say O'Hanlon's strike on Dowling was a sickener - 30 seconds to go and down by 20 points and he does that to a fellow player facing into an All-Ireland semi-final. Knew exactly what he was doing too.

Gone way down in my estimation.

Looked back on the incident there. It can clearly be seen that he went straight for Dowling's hand holding the hurley. Very bad belt and absolutely no need for it. Disappointing from him. I thought Liam Dunne was quite gracious after the game in fairness to him and was nice to see him having a good few words with TJ after.

grimbergen

Rightwing wrote: »

I don't know if tiredness was a factor or not. What I do know is a lot of analysts like Deignan got it so badly wrong, they don't know what they are talking about.

If it was tiredness, how could they be tipping Wex beforehand. Then afterwards saying 'it was tiredness'. Shambolic.

Couldn't agree more. Duignan is one of the laziest analysts of them all, said he was going for wexford cos he went them in the previous two matches. If that's the basis for your analysis, you're in trouble.

washman3

grimbergen wrote: »

Couldn't agree more. Duignan is one of the laziest analysts of them all, said he was going for wexford cos he went them in the previous two matches. If that's the basis for your analysis, you're in trouble.

+1
Most proper GAA followers have Duignan copped by now.
A total bluffer who runs with the hare and hunts with the hound...;)