Pre-season Friendlies

PARlance

roryc wrote: »

I originally had RVP and Silva in mind. Seeing Rooney and Mata link up well in their first game (without RVP) immediately made me switch, as I always planned on having two or three United players due to their fixtures. Unfortunately making the switch last week was of no benefit, because despite being right about them being a good pairing (as many others on the forum were) it makes no difference. The more it becomes publicised how well they are doing, the more casual players are likely to pick them for GW1. Its almost a curse that the game opens a month before GW1!

I'm still not getting your point

If it opened next week, what difference would there be?
The publicity doesn't go away.
The fact that they are 2 good players doesn't go away.
People would still know that RVP hasn't played.

It sounds like you're issue is with having preseason friendlies rather than the game opening up earlier.

And there's plenty of chance for casuals to be distracted. A few good displays in the Charity Shield could push up the City (especially with Silvas current % or if someone like Navas had a cracker) and Arsenal midfielders ownership even more.

Sure you might stick Silva back in yourself

zarquon

roryc wrote: »

I originally had RVP and Silva in mind. Seeing Rooney and Mata link up well in their first game (without RVP) immediately made me switch, as I always planned on having two or three United players due to their fixtures. Unfortunately making the switch last week was of no benefit, because despite being right about them being a good pairing (as many others on the forum were) it makes no difference. The more it becomes publicised how well they are doing, the more casual players are likely to pick them for GW1. Its almost a curse that the game opens a month before GW1!

In fairness i would not call anyone watching preseason matches and form to pick their opening team a casual! Far from it.

CSF

zarquon wrote: »

In fairness i would not call anyone watching preseason matches and form to pick their opening team a casual! Far from it.

Was thinking something similar

roryc

Haha I'm more referring to people who make their team last minute. Would prefer if some of these players flew under the radar a bit... hopefully the likes of Ashley Young keep banging in goals and distract peoples attention away!

Mr.Prodston

Ashley Young to score a hat-trick against Swansea, followed by 2/3 more performances with goals and assists. We write it off as early season madness, he doesn't stop scoring, the FSA approaches melt-down, we split into factions until a very select few remain not owning Young and the brigade is formed :pac:

I laugh now, but just wait for it to happen.....

Hogey007

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

Ashley Young to score a hat-trick against Swansea, followed by 2/3 more performances with goals and assists. We write it off as early season madness, he doesn't stop scoring, the FSA approaches melt-down, we split into factions until a very select few remain not owning Young and the brigade is formed :pac:

I laugh now, but just wait for it to happen.....

I might actually consider Ashley young at 5.5 given uniteds fixtures if I didn't think i'd be using my 3 united players elsewhere.
And as a united fan I know as much as anyone how frustrating he can be and that he isn't really up to united's standard but at 5.5 he's better than most in that bracket. but just to be clear, i'm unlikely to be adding him.

zarquon

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

Ashley Young to score a hat-trick against Swansea, followed by 2/3 more performances with goals and assists. We write it off as early season madness, he doesn't stop scoring, the FSA approaches melt-down, we split into factions until a very select few remain not owning Young and the brigade is formed :pac:

I laugh now, but just wait for it to happen.....

He could be this years Ramsey. He could also be this year's Ben Arfa. On current form though he would actually be a reasonable pick for the 1st few games.

Still Mata and Rooney are essetial for the opening games along with a defensive player which i would suggest to be either De Gea or Evans.

roryc

zarquon wrote: »

Still Mata and Rooney are essetial for the opening games along with a defensive player which i would suggest to be either De Gea or Evans.

Agreed, this is the point I was making above. They are essential, I just wish it wasn't so bloody obvious!

Mr.Prodston

Lukas Jutkiewicz has 2 goals for Burnley against Celta Vigo tonight

Iused2likebusts

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

Lukas Jutkiewicz has 2 goals for Burnley against Celta Vigo tonight

That's 5 goals now I reckon he will start up top with Ings in behind.

Mr.Prodston

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

That's 5 goals now I reckon he will start up top with Ings in behind.

Ings didn't play tonight in what looked like an otherwise strong team. Ashley Barnes was in behind LJ and got an assist. I think Ings had some kind of knock but wasn't serious going by twitter. Wallace got the other assist and the game ended 2-2

Burnley: Heaton; Trippier, Duff, Shackell (c), Mee; Arfield, Marney, Jones, Wallace; Barnes, Jutkiewicz

Iused2likebusts

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

Ings didn't play tonight in what looked like an otherwise strong team. Ashley Barnes was in behind LJ and got an assist. I think Ings had some kind of knock but wasn't serious going by twitter. Wallace got the other assist and the game ended 2-2

Burnley: Heaton; Trippier, Duff, Shackell (c), Mee; Arfield, Marney, Jones, Wallace; Barnes, Jutkiewicz

Ye ings for barnes and maybe kightly for wallace and thats the first eleven.

breffni bogballer

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

Lukas Jutkiewicz has 2 goals for Burnley against Celta Vigo tonight

i hope martin and roy are keeping tabs on him

roryc

Can't believe I am honestly entertaining the idea of three Stoke players in my GW1 team. Think they play Betis tonight, will tune if for the game.

zarquon

roryc wrote: »

Can't believe I am honestly entertaining the idea of three Stoke players in my GW1 team. Think they play Betis tonight, will tune if for the game.

Only Cameron and Bojan are somewhat appealing to me. Who else have you in mind?

CSF

zarquon wrote: »

Only Cameron and Bojan are somewhat appealing to me. Who else have you in mind?

5.0 guys are value too IMO

Iused2likebusts

CSF wrote: »

5.0 guys are value too IMO

Huth has been in my team since day 1 great opening fixtures a goal threat and under the radar due to missing most of last season injured.

CSF

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Huth has been in my team since day 1 great opening fixtures a goal threat and under the radar due to missing most of last season injured.

Is Wilson starting instead of him not a slight worry?

roryc

Huth is the main one, and considering Cameron + Bojan. Likely will only have Huth though.

CSF

roryc wrote: »

Huth is the main one, and considering Cameron + Bojan. Likely will only have Huth though.

I want Huth, but feel Pieters has a more solid certainty of starting. Are we sure Pulis is going to break up what was a very successful Stoke defence after Huth's injury?

Iused2likebusts

CSF wrote: »

Is Wilson starting instead of him not a slight worry?

Huth has been starting the last few pre season games once he starts the weekend game Ill go with Huth.

Scorpion Sting

CSF wrote: »

I want Huth, but feel Pieters has a more solid certainty of starting. Are we sure Pulis is going to break up what was a very successful Stoke defence after Huth's injury?

I doubt Hughes will want Pulis interfering with his team selections.

CSF

jebforever wrote: »

I doubt Hughes will want Pulis interfering with his team selections.

Would you say no to Tony Pulis?

Scorpion Sting

CSF wrote: »

Would you say no to Tony Pulis?

Well when you put it like that... :pac:

CSF

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Huth has been starting the last few pre season games once he starts the weekend game Ill go with Huth.

With the Stoke starting team tonight it is definitely a bigger worry.

Iused2likebusts

CSF wrote: »

With the Stoke starting team tonight it is definitely a bigger worry.

whats the back 4

RichFTW

CSF wrote: »

With the Stoke starting team tonight it is definitely a bigger worry.

You know you're a true FPL addict when you start worrying about the Stoke starting line up! In pre season.

tom_k

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

whats the back 4

Stoke City team v Real Betis: Begovic, Bardsley, Pieters, Whelan, Ireland, Arnautovic, Wilson, Nzonzi, Shawcross (c), Diouf, Bojan.

So Bardsley, Pieters, Wilson, Shawcross I suppose.

CSF

tom_k wrote: »

Stoke City team v Real Betis: Begovic, Bardsley, Pieters, Whelan, Ireland, Arnautovic, Wilson, Nzonzi, Shawcross (c), Diouf, Bojan.

So Bardsley, Pieters, Wilson, Shawcross I suppose.

I wouldn't say it's as certain as that but I wouldn't be investing in huth either way. Plenty will be caught out on him if it does go that way

Iused2likebusts

CSF wrote: »

I wouldn't say it's as certain as that but I wouldn't be investing in huth either way. Plenty will be caught out on him if it does go that way

That's a strong team out may well go with pieters so

PARlance

tom_k wrote: »

Stoke City team v Real Betis: Begovic, Bardsley, Pieters, Whelan, Ireland, Arnautovic, Wilson, Nzonzi, Shawcross (c), Diouf, BOJAN THE TROJAN.

So Bardsley, Pieters, Wilson, Shawcross I suppose.

fyp

FHFC

RichFTW wrote: »

You know you're a true FPL addict when you start worrying about the Stoke starting line up! In pre season.

Was just thinking its pretty bad to even know that Stoke are playing tonight!!

PARlance

"I can't believe it's not Bojan" hits the net again.

FHFC

PARlance wrote: »

"I can't believe it's not Bojan" hits the net again.

Fup sakes!

You're supposed to be a SECRET weapon wee man!!

PARlance

Everton also in action tonight

@Everton: Everton to face Celta Vigo: Howard, Hibbert, Baines, Distin, Stones, Barry, McCarthy, McGeady, Osman (c), Barkley, Naismith.

PARlance

Colman not on the bench either.
There was talk of him missing a few earlier preseason games as precaution.

Anyone got any news on him?

Ziegler1988

Pieters scored. Easy switch from Huth for me

PARlance

Baines assist McGeady goal.

Swiftly followed by a Celta Vigo goal.

CSF

I feel like I have to bring in Bojan now...

km79

FHFC wrote: »

Fup sakes!

You're supposed to be a SECRET weapon wee man!!

he is making it harder and harder to resist

PARlance

@stokecity: Every Potters fan is on their feet as they applaud Bojan off the field as he is substituted by Peter Crouch #SCFC

tom_k

Don't want to knock the Trojan too much but I remember this time last year Anelka had scored 6 in pre season for WBA. I even put him in my team :eek:.

Bad comparison maybe...

tom_k

Bojan's promise to his many FSA admirers.

PARlance

The Bojan Supporters Club have a... ahem... have a Bebo page
http://archive.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=4816525378

Paully D

Understandable that Hughes appears to be sticking with Wilson alongside Shawcross at CB if that line-up is anything to go by, but Huth is a far, far better player.

Like Ziegler, Huth to Pieters is likely to be my switch. I definitely want Stoke defensive coverage given their start.

I'll put my neck on the line and say that Bojan will have a relatively poor FPL contribution this coming season. He'll flop when it comes to the proper stuff IMO, he could be a bit caught in the middle in the sense that I don't see him as a natural striker and he's probably not good enough to build the side around as a #10. Though Hughes has a very good record in the transfer market in the £5m and under bracket so that is a positive for Bojan (£3m) as things stand.

KevIRL

Hughes after the game

The City boss also highlighted the performance of Bojan as another huge positive from his side’s penultimate pre-season encounter.

“He’s a good player, but we knew that when we were trying to bring him here in the summer,” he added.

“He has grabbed the headlines again and rightly so because he put in another really good performance and capped it off with another superbly taken goal.

“We can probably exploit his abilities in an even better way, but I am sure that will happen the more we play him and the more the other lads and him become accustomed to what they are each trying to do.

“It is still early days with him and there is a lot of work to be done yet, but from what we have seen so far we are really encouraged because he has come in and made a good impression on everybody here at the club.”

roryc

Quite frustrating having Pieters and Bojan in your line up while that game was on... He does seem to be the better choice over Huth, although if both were guaranteed to start I would go with the latter. He almost scored last week and you would have to assume he is still odds on to start. Need certainties though.

Ziegler1988

Paully D wrote: »

I'll put my neck on the line and say that Bojan will have a relatively poor FPL contribution this coming season. He'll flop when it comes to the proper stuff IMO, he could be a bit caught in the middle in the sense that I don't see him as a natural striker and he's probably not good enough to build the side around as a #10. Though Hughes has a very good record in the transfer market in the £5m and under bracket so that is a positive for Bojan (£3m) as things stand.

I'm sticking with Fletcher for GW1 since he's a proven PL goalscorer and WBA's defence could be understrength. But I'd probably jump on the Bojan horse if he runs riot against Villa :pac:

CSF

Ziegler1988 wrote: »

I'm sticking with Fletcher for GW1 since he's a proven PL goalscorer and WBA's defence could be understrength. But I'd probably jump on the Bojan horse if he runs riot against Villa :pac:

I want to do the same, but I'm alot more confident that Bojan will start than I am that Fletcher will start.

Ziegler1988

Sunderland starting XI: Mannone, van Aanholt, Bridcutt, Larsson, Rodwell, Wickham, Johnson, O'Shea, Giaccherini, Vergini, Roberge.

Substitutes: Pantilimon, Brown, Cattermole, Fletcher, Gomez, Mavrias.

Ugh, Fletcher on the bench. Bojan it is