Pre-season Friendlies

Paully D

Ziegler1988 wrote: »

Sunderland starting XI: Mannone, van Aanholt, Bridcutt, Larsson, Rodwell, Wickham, Johnson, O'Shea, Giaccherini, Vergini, Roberge.

Substitutes: Pantilimon, Brown, Cattermole, Fletcher, Gomez, Mavrias.

Ugh, Fletcher on the bench. Bojan it is

Cool, Vergini's back I've been out of the loop today and must have missed that.

For those interested, the team above probably lines out like this:

Mannone

Vergini O'Shea Roberge van Aanholt

Bridcutt Rodwell Larsson

Johnson

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Giaccherini

Wickham

I would wager on Cattermole coming in for Bridcutt and Brown for Roberge, with possibly Jones for Vergini and who knows up front for the opener next week. If Wickham and Fletcher got a half it would be interesting. One more friendly to go after this one anyway.

That will be pretty close to what we go with though.

Iused2likebusts

Paully D wrote: »

Cool, Vergini's back I've been out of the loop today and must have missed that.

For those interested, the team above probably lines out like this:

Mannone

Vergini O'Shea Roberge van Aanholt

Bridcutt Rodwell Larsson

Johnson

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Giaccherini

Wickham

I would wager on Cattermole coming in for Bridcutt and Brown for Roberge, with possibly Jones for Vergini and who knows up front for the opener next week. If Wickham and Fletcher got a half it would be interesting. One more friendly to go after this one anyway.

That will be pretty close to what we go with though.

Would Rodwell be the most advanced mid or larrson

Paully D

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Would Rodwell be the most advanced mid or larrson

Rodwell appears to be mate. From a journalist at the game:

Scott Wilson @Scottwilsonecho
Still 0-0, but noticeable how many breaks Rodwell is making into opposition box. Suspect that'll be a big part of #SAFC's play this season.

He also scored but it was ruled out for offside.

Iused2likebusts

Very good Cheap mid option if he can stay fit

Paully D

Fletcher and Wickham score for Sunderland in a 2-0 win.

79' Sunderland 1 Real Betis 0: Steven Fletcher - he scores when he wants! The striker skipped past the Betis defence, nicking the ball en route and coolly slotted the ball into the back of the net, leaving keeper Antonio Adan with no chance.

81' Sunderland 2 Real Betis 0: Connor Wickham smashes the ball into the back of the net from the edge of the area to double Sunderland's lead

Ziegler1988

Paully D wrote: »

Fletcher and Wickham score for Sunderland in a 2-0 win.

Suppose I'll wait until after Saturday's friendly for my Fletcher v Bojan decision. Do you think Poyet will only start one of Fletcher and Wickham? He had been putting Wickham on the left and Fletcher up front their last friendlies

Paully D

Ziegler1988 wrote: »

Suppose I'll wait until after Saturday's friendly for my Fletcher v Bojan decision. Do you think Poyet will only start one of Fletcher and Wickham? He had been putting Wickham on the left and Fletcher up front their last friendlies

He might actually be forced into going Wickham on the left and Fletcher up front for the first game or two at least.

Giaccherini went off with what looked like a groin injury that should keep him out for a few weeks. There's literally no one else in the squad who can play the role and it was one of the reasons he was so keen to get Borini in.

His system has generally always been 4-3-3 with two wide forwards tracking back and supporting the lone striker in equal measure so I doubt he'll switch to 2 two strikers up top, but Wickham on the left appears to be a definite possibility depending on a) Giaccherini's injury and b) transfer progress. That said, he hasn't ruled out a change:

Fletcher and Wickham claimed their goals in the final ten minutes of last night’s game, and having fielded a lone striker for most of last season, Poyet is considering playing the duo alongside each other in the early weeks of the new campaign. “I think Connor is feeling better with Fletch next to him,” said Poyet. “It’s an option, and these games have given me information to make a decision on how we are going to play in the next few weeks.”

Lucas Hood

Chelsea team v Fenerbahce: Cech; Ivanovic, Cahill, Terry (c), Azpilicueta; Fabregas, Matic; Schurrle, Oscar, Hazard; Diego Costa. #CFC

Fabregas back to cm and no Luis.

SpaceCowb0y

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Chelsea team v Fenerbahce: Cech; Ivanovic, Cahill, Terry (c), Azpilicueta; Fabregas, Matic; Schurrle, Oscar, Hazard; Diego Costa. #CFC

Fabregas back to cm and no Luis.

Fuck... what does it mean!!!:pac::pac::pac:

manual_man

Lovely individual goal from Costa. Matic with another sneaky assist

extra gravy

manual_man wrote: »

Lovely individual goal from Costa. Matic with another sneaky assist

You reminded me of an insane thought I had a few weeks ago that he would be a cheap way into the Chelsea midfield. 4 assists towards the end of last season and only 5.5. I know it doesn't make sense to pick defensive midfielders but is he likely to score much less than an attacking player at that price from one of the lower teams?

manual_man

extra gravy wrote: »

You reminded me of an insane thought I had a few weeks ago that he would be a cheap way into the Chelsea midfield. 4 assists towards the end of last season and only 5.5. I know it doesn't make sense to pick defensive midfielders but is he likely to score much less than an attacking player at that price from one of the lower teams?

as well as a lot of extra +1's for clean sheets...

if you were to rotate him, and just play him for home games, he could just work!

alchemist33

SpaceCowb0y wrote: »

Fuck... what does it mean!!!:pac::pac::pac:

Not a lot. Theyre playing two 45 minute games against two different teams, and have two full friendlies left. But it probably means Terry and Cahill are safest from rotation.

Dearg81

extra gravy wrote: »

You reminded me of an insane thought I had a few weeks ago that he would be a cheap way into the Chelsea midfield. 4 assists towards the end of last season and only 5.5. I know it doesn't make sense to pick defensive midfielders but is he likely to score much less than an attacking player at that price from one of the lower teams?

I think he'll be a great pick in the UFPL game were the scoring favours defensive mids, he's a quality all round player.

Ziegler1988

extra gravy wrote: »

You reminded me of an insane thought I had a few weeks ago that he would be a cheap way into the Chelsea midfield. 4 assists towards the end of last season and only 5.5. I know it doesn't make sense to pick defensive midfielders but is he likely to score much less than an attacking player at that price from one of the lower teams?

But what if you need that Chelsea slot later? I had trouble with this when I had Lucas as a filler and couldn't get in Sturridge since I also had Gerrard and Suarez

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Ziegler1988 wrote: »

But what if you need that Chelsea slot later? I had trouble with this when I had Lucas as a filler and couldn't get in Sturridge since I also had Gerrard and Suarez

Think I'm going to go with 3-5-2 and I think I'd rather go with him as 5th mid instead of going 3-4-3 and trying to pick out someone from the cheap strikers. Wouldn't be confident in any of them. At least he should play every game and chip in with the odd goal or assist as well as CS points.

Team at the minute is

De Gea
Terry Debuchy Pieters
Sanchez Mata Sigurdsson Eriksen Matic
Rooney Costa

Subs: Myhill, Ward, Moore, Zamora

I'll probably have a totally different team at the end of the week the rate I'm going anyway!

skippy15

think Bojan is coming in for me- in place of siggy.
need some sort of risk in lineup

Mr.Prodston

The "OMG this time next week it'll be the real 3pm line-ups" line ups

Sunderland: Pantilimon, Vergini, van Aanholt, Brown, O'Shea (c), Cattermole, Rodwell, Gomez, Mavrias, Wickham, Fletcher.

subs: Mannone, Bridcutt, N'Diaye, Altidore, Graham, Agnew, T Robson, Roberge, Watmore

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Burnley: Heaton, Trippier, Shackell (c), Duff, Mee; Arfield, Jones, Marney, Taylor; Ings, Jutkiewicz

Subs: Gilks, Lafferty, O'Neill, Long, Anderson, Wallace, Kightly, Barnes, Sordell, Reid

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Swansea: Fabianski, Rangel, Bartley, Williams (C), Taylor, Ki, Shelvey, Sigurdsson, Montero, Gomis, Bony

Subs: Tremmel, Richards, Tiendalli, Amat, Kingsley, Sheehan, King, Bray.

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Everton: Howard, Hibbert, Baines, Jagielka, Alcaraz, Besic, Barry, McGeady, Pienaar, Barkley, Long

Subs: Joel, Naismith, Distin, McCarthy, Osman, Stones, Garbutt, McAleny, Duffy, Hope

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Villa: Guzan, Hutton, Baker, Senderos, Stevens, Westwood, Delph, Richardson, N'Zogbia, Agbonlahor, Weimann

Subs: Given, Vlaar, Bennett, Okore, Clark, Bacuna, El Ahmadi, Herd, Bent, Gardner, Lowton, Grealish

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QPR: Green; Simpson, Caulker, Ferdinand, Dunne, SWP; Barton, Faurlin, Mutch; Hoilett, Austin

Subs; Murphy, Hill, Onuoha, Henry, Phillips, Zamora, Harriman, Doughty

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West Ham: Adrian, Reid, Cresswell, Nolan (c), Tomkins, Kouyate, Zarate, Downing, Noble, Collins, Cole

Subs: Jaaskelainen, Vaz Te, Lee, Burke, Diame, Poyet, Potts, Cullen

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Palace: Speroni, Ward, Dann, Hangeland, Jerome Williams, Puncheon, Jedinak, Ledley, Bolasie, Chamakh, Campbell.

Subs: Hennessey, McCarthy, Mariappa, Guedioura, Bannan, Gayle, Murray.


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Edit: Adding Leicester

Leicester: Schmeichel, De Laet, Konchesky, Drinkwater, Morgan (c), Hammond, King, Albrighton, Moore, Mahrez, Nugent

Subs: James, Schlupp,Taylor-Fletcher, Ulloa, Wasilewski, Wood, Hamer

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I wonder will Jerome Williams be added to the Palace player list?

manual_man

extra gravy wrote: »

I wonder will Jerome Williams be added to the Palace player list?

Has to be. Although it should be noted Delaney was left out of the squad with a minor injury.

P.S. Pantillimoon in goal sure to wreck with a few Mannone owner's heads

km79

extra gravy wrote: »

I wonder will Jerome Williams be added to the Palace player list?

was just wondering the same

Mr.Prodston

You'd hope so, I'm sure if he isn't added over the weekend then a quick lobby email should sort it out

In saying that when I was looking at him a few weeks back I thought he'd be added then. I might just go with Ward for security of starts though.

Kyle Bartley starting could open up another 4.0 option if Chico leaves but surely Monk knows they'll need a CB

extra gravy

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

You'd hope so, I'm sure if he isn't added over the weekend then a quick lobby email should sort it out

In saying that when I was looking at him a few weeks back I thought he'd be added then. I might just go with Ward for security of starts though.

I have Ward too so might stick with him and if Williams nails down a spot and is cheaper, it would be easy to downgrade in a few weeks anyway.

Iused2likebusts

Wonder who is up top with austin for QPR as it still looks like 3 at the back. Poyet really messing with mannone owners heads there. Vlaar may not start the season either due to being so late back from world cup.

Lucas Hood

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Wonder who is up top with austin for QPR as it still looks like 3 at the back. Poyet really messing with mannone owners heads there. Vlaar may not start the season either due to being so late back from world cup.

Holiett I assume.

Mr.Prodston

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Wonder who is up top with austin for QPR as it still looks like 3 at the back. Poyet really messing with mannone owners heads there. Vlaar may not start the season either due to being so late back from world cup.

I think Hoilett may be either up top or just tucked in behind him in a No.10 role

Paully D

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

I think Hoilett may be either up top or just tucked in behind him in a No.10 role

Yep. 3-5-1-1 I'd imagine.

Green

Caulker Ferdinand Dunne

Simpson

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Wright-Phillips

Mutch----Barton

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Faurlin

Hoillet

Austin

dahat

Wes Morgan scores for Leicester, 3rd in pre season according to official twitter account.
Defender and 4.5

SpaceCowb0y

Fletcher looking like he's almost a sure thing having started the last few games and playing well, another goal today will see him secure a spot in MY team which i'm sure he will be most pleased about!:pac:

Mannone maybe not so certain for those who are opting for the Krul/Mannone rotation option in goals!

Ziegler1988

#scfc Starting XI vs Freiburg: Begovic; Bardsley, Shawcross (c), Wilson, Muniesa; Whelan, Nzonzi; Odemwingie, Ireland, Bojan; Diouf
Substitutes vs Freiburg; Sorensen, Pieters, Huth, Arnautovic, Adam, Walters, Cameron, Sidwell, Teixeira, Crouch.

Haha, no Pieters or Huth :pac:

Ziegler1988

Wickham just took and scored Sunderland's penalty

Iused2likebusts

Ziegler1988 wrote: »

#scfc Starting XI vs Freiburg: Begovic; Bardsley, Shawcross (c), Wilson, Muniesa; Whelan, Nzonzi; Odemwingie, Ireland, Bojan; Diouf
Substitutes vs Freiburg; Sorensen, Pieters, Huth, Arnautovic, Adam, Walters, Cameron, Sidwell, Teixeira, Crouch.

Haha, no Pieters or Huth :pac:

change of plan instead of krul and huth im going begovic and collocini.

manual_man

Swansea lookin well dodgy in defense 3 down and a half hour still to play

Paully D

Ziegler1988 wrote: »

#scfc Starting XI vs Freiburg: Begovic; Bardsley, Shawcross (c), Wilson, Muniesa; Whelan, Nzonzi; Odemwingie, Ireland, Bojan; Diouf
Substitutes vs Freiburg; Sorensen, Pieters, Huth, Arnautovic, Adam, Walters, Cameron, Sidwell, Teixeira, Crouch.

Haha, no Pieters or Huth :pac:

****ing hell. On to Bardsley then so. :pac:

I can't remember the last mid-table team who had so many question marks over three of their back four starters.

extra gravy

Surely Pieters and Huth are better players than Wilson and Bardsley though? I'd still expect them both to start next weekend.

km79

rose left back for spurs today......Ben Davies on bench
kaboul and dier centre back
no vertonghen at all

CSF

extra gravy wrote: »

Surely Pieters and Huth are better players than Wilson and Bardsley though? I'd still expect them both to start next weekend.

Reckon it's likely to be Pieters and Wilson to take those spots myself

Dearg81

extra gravy wrote: »

Surely Pieters and Huth are better players than Wilson and Bardsley though? I'd still expect them both to start next weekend.

Bardsley is a right back and is not playing instead of Pieters, Muniesa is and he is highly rated. I think Begovic is the best route into the stoke defence at the moment.

Iused2likebusts

jukewitz scored again for burnley today thats 6 goals in pre season and none for Ings.

manual_man

I'm not sure i'd fancy any Stoke def now with all that uncertainty. Had Cameron but he's out now!

Dearg81

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

You'd hope so, I'm sure if he isn't added over the weekend then a quick lobby email should sort it out

In saying that when I was looking at him a few weeks back I thought he'd be added then. I might just go with Ward for security of starts though.

Kyle Bartley starting could open up another 4.0 option if Chico leaves but surely Monk knows they'll need a CB

Bartley is a decent player but after today's result you would assume he'll definitely buy a centre back if Chico goes.

extra gravy

Dearg81 wrote: »

Bardsley is a right back and is not playing instead of Pieters, Muniesa is and he is highly rated. I think Begovic is the best route into the stoke defence at the moment.

Ya tempted to go De Gea and Pieters to Evans and Begovic now.

roryc

I'm still going with Pieters. I've a mate who's a Stoke fan and he seems to think he the line up from the previous game is the preferred 11. Huth has to come back into the fold at some point, but may not start the first game. Sounds like Pieters is a safe bet anyway. He also said Cameron and Wilson were signed with midfield positions in mind, which I wasn't aware of. They might end up playing OOP which could work out brilliantly for us.

Ziegler1988

Dearg81 wrote: »

Bartley is a decent player but after today's result you would assume he'll definitely buy a centre back if Chico goes.

Chico is a done deal: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28655286

I might need a second 4.0m defender after Liam Moore and am thinking Bartley currently.

wonski

The defenders uncertainty ruins my plan.

If Begovic didn't cost only 0.5 less than DeGea he would be an option. I can't justify spending that much on Stoke defence though.

Dearg81

Ziegler1988 wrote: »

Chico is a done deal: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28655286

I might need a second 4.0m defender after Liam Moore and am thinking Bartley currently.

He'll definitely be the best 4m option and I'll be picking him too unless they buy a replacement.

8-10

roryc wrote: »

I'm still going with Pieters. I've a mate who's a Stoke fan and he seems to think he the line up from the previous game is the preferred 11. Huth has to come back into the fold at some point, but may not start the first game. Sounds like Pieters is a safe bet anyway. He also said Cameron and Wilson were signed with midfield positions in mind, which I wasn't aware of. They might end up playing OOP which could work out brilliantly for us.

Same, been speaking to my mate from Stoke and he's convinced Pieters is first choice

8-10

Adebayor scored for Spurs, another for the watchlist, 8.5 currently but not sure I'll start the season with him

Ned Walsh

Dearg81 wrote: »

He'll definitely be the best 4m option and I'll be picking him too unless they buy a replacement.

They nearly have. Fernandez is set to join from Napoli. Will defo start

FHFC

8-10 wrote: »

Same, been speaking to my mate from Stoke and he's convinced Pieters is first choice

What would your mate reckon on Wilson. IsIs it likely he'll start the first few games even?