Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

dahat

It seems that Alves is staying at Barcelona so if we are really in for Cuadrado we look to have a clear run at him.

Kess73

bangkok wrote: »

If Michael Bay did gifs.....

Unearthly

NeVeR wrote: »

Just read this ... I know it's from twitter and stuff get posted all the time.. but has anyone anymore info on it. ?

I'm sick of these verbally agreed deals.

I want written contract deals done !!

Vic Vinegar

Kess73 wrote: »

If Michael Bay did gifs.....

Not enough shaky cam!

markcahill1985

Saw on twitter there that Woodward is gone on holidays, great timing **Hides**

steoin

markcahill1985 wrote: »

Saw on twitter there that Woodward is gone on holidays, great timing **Hides**

Yeah I hear he's taking a few days to himself, to get away from it all so to speak. Off to Italy and being the stand up guy he is, plans to meet up with paddy Evra in Turin for a day or two to see how he's settling in. What a guy that Woodie, heart of gold.

J. Marston

markcahill1985 wrote: »

Saw on twitter there that Woodward is gone on holidays, great timing **Hides**

Just breathe and count to ten.

RobertKK

markcahill1985 wrote: »

Saw on twitter there that Woodward is gone on holidays, great timing **Hides**

It could be a great cover story.

Like it all depends on where he went on holidays...doubt it is Magaluf.

Cookiemunster

markcahill1985 wrote: »

Saw on twitter there that Woodward is gone on holidays, great timing **Hides**

Surely Woodward isn't the only person at the club who can negotiate on transfers. I doubt the CE does anything other than sign off on the deal.

Lord TSC

I saw on Twiiter we were signing Vidal, Hummels and Ronaldo today.

Seriously, any credible source on woody?

nicklauski

This is my feelings on Vidal right now -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G29DXfcdhBg

Every week I'm over it, then more news comes out that Utd are interested.
Killing me.

Wenger has confirmed United have bid for Vermaelen

ericzeking

homerjay2005 wrote: »

wow, fans of the biggest club in the world wanting 1 or 2 of the best players in the world to be signed....after our CE portraying we had big intentions to sign the best players and could break world records to show our power...

How dare they.....

The best players don't neccessarily make the best team.

You think you know better than Louis Van Gaal who the best signings would be?

Cypher_sounds

Can anyone with more time post up vermaelens injury history? Is it as bad as been said?

Copper_pipe

Coat22 wrote: »

You’re not 20 years and 3 months old are you?

I'm 19 in October

Maximus Alexander

bangkok wrote: »

This is a contender for greatest GIF ever. The craftsmanship!

hufpc8w3adnk65

bangkok wrote: »

That could be the greatest GIF ever!

Hococop

The extra effort of having his shoe on fire at the end is brilliant

PhlegmyMoses

StarshipPooper wrote: »

http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/vidal-for-just-32m-and-he-wants-manchester-united

Is Vidal at the end of his contract? Because 40m euro (widely reported) for one of the best midfielders in the world seems really low does it not? It's what we paid for Berba. Less than Liverpool paid for Andy Carroll.

Hococop

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Is Vidal at the end of his contract? Because 40m euro (widely reported) for one of the best midfielders in the world, does it not? It's what we paid for Berba. Less than Liverpool paid for Andy Carroll.

Though he signed an extention a few months back, unless its to do with the injury, but its all speculation at the moment who knows if we sign him

jimmytwotimes 2013

Wenger just saying there United in a group of clubs who have bid for vermaelen.

Still mite not happen, least its no longer paper nonsense.

steoin

Bombleswizzum wrote: »

Pour quoi?

So they don't get the hits for their BS stories, that is after all why they write them.

jimmytwotimes 2013

Edited, spelling stuck in German on the fone!

RasTa

Yup, his press conference just on SSN.

Ed The Equalizer

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

This is a contender for greatest GIF ever. The craftsmanship!

I had to look a few times wondering if it was real and he'd actually missed the ball because of the shock of someone throwing a firework on the pitch!

Coat22

Copper_pipe wrote: »

I'm 19 in October

The would put Mammy & Daddy Pipe in and around Jan 10, 1995 for that "special" moment - the same day Andy Cole signed (Actually signed - none of this "verbally agreed" sh**e back then!!).

Keith Gillespie went the opposite directions and lots of fat b*****d unemployed Geordies almost lynched poor Keegan outside St James Park (as it was called in the day)

F**k. Now I feel ancient

PhlegmyMoses

Keith Gillespie. Northern Irish saucehound

elchupanebrey

Kess73 wrote: »

If Michael Bay did gifs.....

It's good but there's no Megan Fox in it:P

NTMK

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

Can anyone with more time post up vermaelens injury history? Is it as bad as been said?

09-10: 33 league games, 11 Europe (Calf injury near end of season missed 3 weeks)

10-11: 5 league games, Spent the entire season out with an achillies injury

11-12: 29 League games, 7 Europe (Missed 6 weeks at start of season for surgery on achillies issus from the previous season)

12-13: 29 League Games, 7 Europe (strain 3 weeks, ankle injury 3 weeks)

13-14: 14 league ganes, 2 Europe (Fracture 3 months missed pre-season, 2 knee injuries (5 weeks) and last game of the season)

I dont think his injury record is awful tbh

Copper_pipe

Coat22 wrote: »

The would put Mammy & Daddy Pipe in and around Jan 10, 1995 for that "special" moment - the same day Andy Cole signed (Actually signed - none of this "verbally agreed" sh**e back then!!).

Gary Gillespie went the opposite directions and lots of fat b*****d unemployed Geordies almost lynched poor Keegan outside St James Park (as it was called in the day)

F**k. Now I feel ancient

Reminds me of a funny story actually. Back in 1994, our parish won the county junior championship. My friends dad was the captain of the team and let's just say that 9 months later that my friend was born :L

Maximus Alexander

Coat22 wrote: »

The would put Mammy & Daddy Pipe in and around Jan 10, 1995 for that "special" moment - the same day Andy Cole signed.

Probably a slightly late new years baby! Mammy and Daddy Pipe were ringing in 1995 with style.

Mikeyt086

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

This is a contender for greatest GIF ever. The craftsmanship!

MrMac84 wrote: »

That could be the greatest GIF ever!

Lads, please...

Coat22

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Reminds me of a funny story actually. Back in 1994, our parish won the county junior championship. My friends dad was the captain of the team and let's just say that 9 months later that my friend was born :L

Well statistically June 1980 and March 1991 have 2 of the highest birth rates ever in the country.

One was nine months after the Pope visited in '79 (things were fierce miserable in the '70s - any excuse for a bit of a roll), the other was nine months after Italia '90 (that was a World Cup in which Ireland did quite well - think Columbia this year but without the flair).

TheDoc

MagicIRL wrote: »

Hummels is off, according to the Daily Star. So... it may still be in fact on, or never was on, or was always off, anyway...

I found this http://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/ which seems to be a decent spot for people giving rumours and reasons why you should/shouldn't believe them. All things point to Le Stampa as a very reliable source for Juve news.

I follow that frequently.

What is excellent there is that at the start of each transfer window, they re-evaluate sources and reliability. Some guy there does a SAVAGE job and is doing it for years.

Interesting to note that the likes of Mark Ogden and the other usuals, have all been downgraded in reliability, with the opinion that they no longer have the direct contact with Woodward that they had last season.

He also pointed out at the start of the window that the BEST place for ITK information, is ties and sources to the potential buying/selling club, as on the Untied side nothing is being leaked or communicated.

It should be a sticky on the sidepanel, if not you might need to search it, its always top voted at the start of transfer window

TheDoc

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Surely Woodward isn't the only person at the club who can negotiate on transfers. I doubt the CE does anything other than sign off on the deal.

He has a team that he heads up. And the club also have third parties which they utilise in certain cases. This is how multiple discussions and negotiations can happen at once. The Chief Exec isn't the end all and be all.

If Woodward has infact gone on holidays it means one of two things

1)He is comfortable that negotiations are finalised and the final parts of the deals can proceed without him

2) He has received indication from LVG that no players are required and that only exits will be taking place, which can be done by Woodwards team.


Obviously I don't know the structure of the club at that level, but its not uncommon for a chief executive to go on holidays and divert power of authority to an understudy for that duration, to act on their behalf.


ANd look, he is a Chief Exec of one of the biggest brands in the world, his phone will be on like.


That's a big IF the story is true.

Lucas Hood

I like everything about r/reddevils apart from the name.

Why couldn't they just pick r/mufc.

MagicIRL

Lucas Hood wrote: »

I like everything about r/reddevils apart from the name.

Why couldn't they just pick r/mufc.

It screams U S of A, doesn't it?

Pinturicchio

Just one thing, Vidal is in Indonesia with Juventus. Unless United have representatives in Jakarta, reports that Vidal has signed a contract with them would seem to be unlikely.

Rayne Wooney

If Falcao is to come to the premier league I would rather him sign for City who are more of a long term threat than Liverpool who are the main threat for next season IMO

If they pulled that off we would have some catching up to do with buying players

Maximus Alexander

Pinturicchio wrote: »

Just one thing, Vidal is in Indonesia with Juventus. Unless United have representatives in Jakarta, reports that Vidal has signed a contract with them would seem to be unlikely.

I'd say both Vidal and United have access to fax machines in fairness.

Larry Wildman

Pinturicchio wrote: »

Just one thing, Vidal is in Indonesia with Juventus. Unless United have representatives in Jakarta, reports that Vidal has signed a contract with them would seem to be unlikely.

If only there were ways to send documents electronically across the world...

glued

Pinturicchio wrote: »

Just one thing, Vidal is in Indonesia with Juventus. Unless United have representatives in Jakarta, reports that Vidal has signed a contract with them would seem to be unlikely.

Is La Stampa reliable and what do you think of the chances of Vidal leaving Juve?

Seems like there is a lot of smoke around this deal but absolutely nothing concrete and yet again Man United are smotheting the English press

Larry Wildman

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I'd say both Vidal and United have access to fax machines in fairness.

Fax machines? Is this the 1980s?

Maybe their Amstrad PC1512s have electronic mail function?

TheDoc

Pinturicchio wrote: »

Just one thing, Vidal is in Indonesia with Juventus. Unless United have representatives in Jakarta, reports that Vidal has signed a contract with them would seem to be unlikely.

You think Vidals agent is by his side?

It's highly likely Vidal had a discussion with his agent at some point months ago, outlining his desires and wants. He would also have
agreed standing instructions with his agent. Things like wiggle room on salary or other fees/bonuses.

It is not uncommon, for an agent to be doing negotiation work on behalf of a player, and only contacting the player with something concrete.

A players agent won't be side by side with them. It's ENTIRELY plausible that Vidals agent could be anywhere in the world, meeting with representatives from United, thrashing out a deal.

The days of a player arriving at a club with his agent for negotiations are long since gone.

Larry Wildman

glued wrote: »

Is La Stampa reliable and what do you think of the chances of Vidal leaving Juve?

Seems like there is a lot of smoke around this deal but absolutely nothing concrete and yet again Man United are smotheting the English press

Didn't somebody point out that the Agnelli family are large shareholders in that newspaper and Juventus?

I'd have thought that this lends credence to anything Juve related that they report...

TheDoc

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Fax machines? Is this the 1980s?

Maybe their Amstrad PC1512s have electronic mail function?

Believe it or not, the Premier League only accept a fax or physical maiiled documents when it comes to registering a player to a club after a transfer concludes.

This is why there is the timeframe AFTER the window closes, to allow for the backlog of Fax's that come into the Premier League to be received and processed.

E-mails are not accepted. And to be honest that's not shockingly uncommon, you will find certain banks and insurance companies, will only accept fax or mailed documentation, and not email. This is for legal reasons as well as some outdated practical ones, but as certain legislation hasn't changed in the UK E-mail is not recognised as proper correspondance. This is why when someone "invents" something, they typically mail THEMSELVES the patent as registered post, as there is a dated and recorded trail of the patent being sent and received, and in effect, in place. As opposed to someone e-mailing themselves.

It's so outdated, I believe a few leagues are actually trialing a web based portal to register new players/signings.


We have one fax machine in our office, and it's still required for a fair amount of stuff, where the entities involve won't ammend their process to accept e-mail.

Lord TSC

TheDoc wrote: »

E-mails are not accepted. And to be honest that's not shockingly uncommon, you will find certain banks and insurance companies, will only accept fax or mailed documentation, and not email.

Had an instance two months ago where I needed to have a little procedure done in a hospital in Dublin, and they insisted I fax documents to them. Spent a while running round town looking for somewhere that still had a working fax machine. :rolleyes:

Copper_pipe

Vidal is all smiles....

Larry Wildman

TheDoc wrote: »

Believe it or not, the Premier League only accept a fax or physical maiiled documents when it comes to registering a player to a club after a transfer concludes.

This is why there is the timeframe AFTER the window closes, to allow for the backlog of Fax's that come into the Premier League to be received and processed.

E-mails are not accepted. And to be honest that's not shockingly uncommon, you will find certain banks and insurance companies, will only accept fax or mailed documentation, and not email.

Seems archaic. Fair point though. Generally, where my counterparties accept faxes, they'll accept scanned copies, but if they're the Premier League's rules, they're their rules.

MagicIRL

Gentlemen, let us not forget that a certain forum poster will be taking time off if we sign Vidal!

*Hint: It's not me, although my time off will probably be soon going by my recent warnings :pac: