Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

FatherTed

Coat22 wrote: »

Apologies its not from The Sun

If Smalling plays 20+ games this season I’ll go naked in Brown Thomas window.

Jones might get a few more but I can guarantee he’ll give away at least 3 penalties before Christmas and this board will be calling for new CBs in January

Bookmarked!

Pro. F

homerjay2005 wrote: »

What point are you trying to make here with that pic?. Phil jones has not improved since he came to the club. Its not an opinion, its a fact.he is very clumsy, dives in and has a habit of injuring himself as well as team mates and opponents.

We signed a hard work horse defender and his courage is to be commended, but at the moment he is as raw as he was when we signed him. Maybe Van Gaal and his coaching staff can finally sort him out but please dont belittle somebodys view on him (as that whay gif based replies are normally designed to do) when said view is spot on and realistic.

It is not spot on. Jones shows a lot more than just jumping around and injuring himself. It was a ridiculous description of his performances and fully worthy of a face palm.

I agree that Jones and Smalling's development has stalled in their time at the club, but there is a very obvious and simple explanation for why.

Deiseboy01

twam2008 wrote: »

I'd love to see that, there'll be feck all money for him if sold, so better if he could be used somewhere useful on the pitch.

I mentioned that a few weeks back and got laughed outta here! Player might not wear it either I suppose.

I could see him doing a better job than Carrick in an emergency but probably not what we should be looking at, really should get a specialist in.

Deiseboy01

twam2008 wrote: »

I'd love to see that, there'll be feck all money for him if sold, so better if he could be used somewhere useful on the pitch.

I mentioned that a few weeks back and got laughed outta here! Player might not wear it either I suppose.

I could see him doing a better job than Carrick in an emergency but probably not what we should be looking at, really should get a specialist in.

steoin

Pro. F wrote: »

will struggle if we keep up with this complete lack of protection and flat, static back 5 shape.

Would 1 or 2 pacey CB's enable us to push the 2 WB's forward? A little more positional awareness from the WB's?

Tactically what's the reasoning for it? Lack of pace and playing deep? Or was it just LoLpool forcing us back? Was this only noticeable in the final?

A little more time to adjust to the formation re positioning for the CB's?

From what I noticed from the pool game midfield didn't offer too much protection, a few sloppy balls by Fletcher et al.

What I'm wondering really is, if say, we sign Vidal and cover for the defense is this still going to be a major issue?

Deiseboy01

tupac_healy wrote: »

Agreed, and if we are not bringing in experience in the form of Vermalen we need to do something else....

And quick

Agger is looking to get out of Liverpool, just saying!

GSPfan

Deiseboy01 wrote: »

Agger is looking to get out of Liverpool, just saying!

Get out.

Lucas Hood

I think Liverpool are mad getting rid of Agger I think he's their best centre half.

GSPfan

Daley Blind is probably the one target at the moment who I reckon we are mad not to be interested in. He covers 3 positions we need cover for.

If we got him, Cuadrado and a CM I think we would be doing very well. Those being the most talked about players and positions at the moment.

Deiseboy01

Lucas Hood wrote: »

I think Liverpool are mad getting rid of Agger I think he's their best centre half.

Messing aside he's a nice footballer who I think would step up into midfield really well in a back three.

newballsplease

Carrick will be playing CB this season. Wait till you see....

adox

newballsplease wrote: »

Carrick will be playing CB this season. Wait till you see....

I'd be very surprised if he does.

newballsplease

adox wrote: »

I'd be very surprised if he does.

Not every game mind you, but he will def be filling in there a good few times i reckon.

homerjay2005

adox wrote: »

I'd be very surprised if he does.

He ended up playing there when we had 5 center backs and only played 2 in there. Now with 3 at back plus departures and injury proned defenders, you would assume the odds are shorter now of him playing there.

Perhaps a better way of putting it is that Keane and Blackett will see alot of game time this year.

twam2008

It's on!

Fiorentina president Andrea Dalla Valle has confirmed that the club would have to accept an 'important' offer for Juan Cuadrado and he expecting one to arrive.

Once again Manchester United and Barcelona are reportedly battling over a player, but unlike with Thomas Vermaelen who is heading for the Nou Camp, the Colombian is said to be Old Trafford-bound

Where would Cuadrado play? Would he be one of the wing backs or on the right of midfield?

Lucas Hood

Zoie Attractive Shortbread wrote: »

Where would Cuadrado play? Would he be one of the wing backs or on the right of midfield?

Can play both.

kryogen

Zoie Attractive Shortbread wrote: »

Where would Cuadrado play? Would he be one of the wing backs or on the right of midfield?

He seems to cover a variety of positions tbf, but would not be overly excited about the signing.

twam2008

kryogen wrote: »

He seems to cover a variety of positions tbf, but would not be overly excited about the signing.

I'd prefer his signing over Vermaalans', know what you mean, but think he'd be an improvement on Nani.

adox

kryogen wrote: »

He seems to cover a variety of positions tbf, but would not be overly excited about the signing.

From the little I've seen of him he looks like a somewhat skillful version of Valencia?

homerjay2005

Appatently there is some press thing on now on MUTV and Mark Ogdan has said the following-
1-No chance of De Jong signing for us.
2-Definate interest in Daley Blind.
3-Club still remaining quiet on Vidal and everything being driven by international media.

homerjay2005

homerjay2005 wrote: »

1-No chance of De Jong signing for us.

That's a shame imo, he'd have been a really good signing imo. There's nobody in the squad who plays like him.

steoin

Zoie Attractive Shortbread wrote: »

Where would Cuadrado play? Would he be one of the wing backs or on the right of midfield?

What about 433, could certainly do with a bit of pace in the front 3.

homerjay2005

steoin wrote: »

What about 433, could certainly do with a bit of pace in the front 3.

Who from Mata, Rvp and Rooney would be dropped then?

Hococop

Is this Cuadrado rumor true or is it media hype again

Lucas Hood

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Who from Mata, Rvp and Rooney would be dropped then?

Who says one of them needs to be?
Rooney on left mata In centre rvp up top. Cuadrado on right.

kryogen

adox wrote: »

From the little I've seen of him he looks like a somewhat skillful version of Valencia?

Cant say I have ever paid too much attention to him, he seems to be able to cover anywhere along the right hand side, central midfield and even more advanced and from the left

I think he had a good world cup, bit of a headless chicken about him I thought and as I said, I wouldnt be overly excited but obviously I wont have seen as much of him as Van Gaal for instance Im sure

yabadabado

I wouldnt be too pushed getting Cuadrado,it still doesn't alleviate the main problems in the squad,CB and CM.Blind and Vidal and a CB(no idea who) would really fix a lot of the issues imo.

Royal Irish

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Rooney----Van Persie

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Mata

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Shaw--Carrick--Herrera--Cuadrado

----Evans---Smalling---Jones

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De Gea

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Not too shabby a team.

steoin

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Who from Mata, Rvp and Rooney would be dropped then?

If one is injured or Mata in Mid

Lord TSC

Will happily see Caudardo in for 40m if that's the price to get rid of Valencia's automatic first team spot :pac:

KH25

Lord TSC wrote: »

Will happily see Caudardo in for 40m if that's the price to get rid of Valencia's automatic first team spot :pac:

What he did to deserve that contract is beyond me.

twinex

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Rooney----Van Persie

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Mata

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Shaw---Vidal---Herrera---Valencia

----Evans---Smalling---Jones

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De Gea

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I would be more than content with this starting line-up with Carrick, Chico, Kagawa and Januzaj et al for cover, it's the defensive subs I worry about...:(

Will I Amnt

twinex wrote: »

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Rooney----Van Persie

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Mata

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Shaw---Vidal---Herrera---Valencia

----Evans---Smalling---Jones

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De Gea

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I would be more than content with this starting line-up with Carrick, Chico, Kagawa and Januzaj et al for cover, it's the defensive subs I worry about...:(

I'd be worried about that starting defence, nevermind the subs.

Liam O

Will I Amnt wrote: »

I'd be worried about that starting defence, nevermind the subs.

The thing is, I kind of want it to be good more than I think it will be good. Smalling has lost a lot of faith I had in him the last 2 seasons. Jones will be great for United but he's not there yet and I think Evans is great. I wouldn't mind those 3 being given a run at it until January though, by then a 4-3-3 might be on the cards but at the very least a right back and a centre back need to be signed imo.

Will I Amnt

Liam O wrote: »

The thing is, I kind of want it to be good more than I think it will be good. Smalling has lost a lot of faith I had in him the last 2 seasons. Jones will be great for United but he's not there yet and I think Evans is great. I wouldn't mind those 3 being given a run at it until January though, by then a 4-3-3 might be on the cards but at the very least a right back and a centre back need to be signed imo.

The same myself but it's Jones I'm losing faith in. I think Smalling can turn it around in a regular backline, I think this setup will suit him. He looked to be assured and comfortable on the ball before he was shunted out to the right and the calamity of last season.

I'd like to hang on to Jones and see if he develops a bit better technically but at the moment I don't think he has the ability to play in the way he will be expected.

homerjay2005

The money being quoted for Caudardo is insane, £36m wud take our spending to £130m this year yet there still wud be at least 3 massive gaps in our first 11.

twinex

Will I Amnt wrote: »

I'd be worried about that starting defence, nevermind the subs.

You see where I said 'content' and not happy.;)

Will I Amnt

twinex wrote: »

You see where I said 'content' and not happy.;)

You said you would be worried about the subs, I'm just saying I'd be worried about those 3 being our first choice.

Lord TSC

homerjay2005 wrote: »

The money being quoted for Caudardo is insane, £36m wud take our spending to £130m this year yet there still wud be at least 3 massive gaps in our first 11.

Not bad for a club desperately trying to cut wages, though :pac:

Larry Wildman

http://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/transfer-window/arturo-vidal-manchester-united-open-talks-over-45m-move-for-juventus-midfielder-reports-30493836.html

I've said all along that we are signing Vidal. The offer was made today...45 bar sterling. It's on like Donkey Kong.

DM_7

Is Caudrado link for real or just a case of his club trying to pump up his value to sell him to another side?

I have not read anything so far that suggests he is a player United are actually chasing.

Has anyone come across a good story or link suggesting its a likely transfer?

Larry Wildman

Larry Wildman wrote: »

http://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/transfer-window/arturo-vidal-manchester-united-open-talks-over-45m-move-for-juventus-midfielder-reports-30493836.html

I've said all along that we are signing Vidal. The offer was made today...45 bar sterling. It's on like Donkey Kong.

According to reports. What reports?

homerjay2005

Lord TSC wrote: »

Not bad for a club desperately trying to cut wages, though :pac:

As it stands (excluding more potential exits ) our wage bill is down £30-£34m on the projected financial commitment given in our last financial update. With Ando, Fellaini and Nani all linked with moves out, that wage bill could drop even further.

Cookiemunster

Larry Wildman wrote: »

http://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/transfer-window/arturo-vidal-manchester-united-open-talks-over-45m-move-for-juventus-midfielder-reports-30493836.html

I've said all along that we are signing Vidal. The offer was made today...45 bar sterling. It's on like Donkey Kong.

You said that he'd be signed by today..............

Lord TSC

DM-ICE wrote: »

Is Caudrado link for real or just a case of his club trying to pump up his value to sell him to another side?

I have not read anything so far that suggests he is a player United are actually chasing.

Has anyone come across a good story or link suggesting its a likely transfer?

All we have had anywhere this summer is reports from the other team's side, and seems to be the same again. None of the usual credible United sources have had anything unique on it, but it's been that way all summer. Reckon we are interested though. Seems to be too much smoke without there being some sort of fire.....

adox

Cookiemunster wrote: »

You said that he'd be signed by today..............

I'm safe for another while.

billyhead

This is brilliant

http://i.minus.com/idgPkbkJTQkOC.gif

curry-muff

I hope we don't sign anyone. Need to save the pennies for next summers splurge.

yabadabado

homerjay2005 wrote: »

The money being quoted for Caudardo is insane, £36m wud take our spending to £130m this year yet there still wud be at least 3 massive gaps in our first 11.

Blind and Benatia would cost around 45m going by the reports much better use of the money than 36m on Caudardo.Those to would solve a few of our problems.