Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

Donnielighto

Adamocovic wrote: »

Rooney even got to sit in a fire truck! Great day for the team

He's very colour coordinated there, red fire engine, red jersey and abig red head on him, you'd know well he's from Irish stock.

Whatsisname

Apparently were playing 352 tonight with De Gea, Smalling, Jones, Evans, Valencia, Fletcher, Herrera, Mata, Shaw, Rooney and Welbeck.

Is this the start of Valencia at RWB again? Over Rafael is strange too

Fescue

Whatsisname wrote: »

Apparently were playing 352 tonight with De Gea, Smalling, Jones, Evans, Valencia, Fletcher, Herrera, Mata, Shaw, Rooney and Welbeck.

Is this the start of Valencia at RWB again? Over Rafael is strange too

Whats the general consensus on the centre backs at the club? I would have thought Utd were in the market for at least two top class centre halves?

Lord TSC

Whatsisname wrote: »

Is this the start of Valencia at RWB again? Over Rafael is strange too

Could simply be he's giving Val a chance to prove himself while he doesn't need to do that for Raf...

redbaron_99

homerjay2005 wrote: »

if we start the season with the current squad, plus Vermaelen and De Vrij, would people be happy with that and view it as a successful summer?

I'd be... content. Not happy, but not entirely pissed off. Technically we would have 6 centre backs, but Vermealen can also cover at LB. So, I would be ok with our defensive situation.

The problem with midfield remains: Carrick is 33 and is already out injured for a few months. It means we're heaping pressure onto Herrera to step in as the main man. That won't be easy playing alongside Fletcher or Cleverley.

With a midfield like that, we'll still struggle to control games and keep possession against good opposition. Best we could hope for is 4th. Maybe a domestic cup.

Fail to add to the current squad and we court disaster. I'll remind you of what happened away to Stoke last season. A repeat of that and we could well end up in 7th yet again.

An easy way to avoid such situations would be to spend money that we have, on some top players for the defence and midfield. I won't be holding my breath though.

Donnielighto

Fescue wrote: »

Whats the general consensus on the centre backs at the club? I would have thought Utd were in the market for at least two top class centre halves?

Vermalean looks like he's on the way. With him and maybe one more I'd be happy enough. I'd imagine keane will be promoted. If LVG wants to player 3 at the back though I'd want another brought in.

Donnielighto

Whatsisname wrote: »

Apparently were playing 352 tonight with De Gea, Smalling, Jones, Evans, Valencia, Fletcher, Herrera, Mata, Shaw, Rooney and Welbeck.

Is this the start of Valencia at RWB again? Over Rafael is strange too

RB with 2 cb is very different to 3 cbs. Interested to see how val performs in that though I think that is rafaels best role, better than in a flat back 4

Fescue

Donnielighto wrote: »

Vermalean looks like he's on the way. With him and maybe one more I'd be happy enough. I'd imagine keane will be promoted. If LVG wants to player 3 at the back though I'd want another brought in.

I suppose there is a long way to go in the transfer window but perhaps this window is too early for LVG, January and next summer will give him an opportunity to mould the squad how he wants.

I'd expect he'll bring a number of young players through.

Montroseee

The only way I would be happy is if at minimum 1 more CM is brought in regardless of the 2/3 defensive additions needed. Imagine if Herrera doesn't hit the ground running/takes time to settle.

homerjay2005

Whatsisname wrote: »

Apparently were playing 352 tonight with De Gea, Smalling, Jones, Evans, Valencia, Fletcher, Herrera, Mata, Shaw, Rooney and Welbeck.

Is this the start of Valencia at RWB again? Over Rafael is strange too

that team, up against City, Arsenal and the like, would give you nightmares.

the sad thing is that as it stands, you realistically only really have RVP to come into it, along with Rafael.

redbaron_99

Whatsisname wrote: »

Apparently were playing 352 tonight with De Gea, Smalling, Jones, Evans, Valencia, Fletcher, Herrera, Mata, Shaw, Rooney and Welbeck.

Is this the start of Valencia at RWB again? Over Rafael is strange too

De Gea, Smalling, Hummels, Evans, Rafeal, Pogba, Herrera, Mata, Shaw, Rooney and Van Persie.

What a difference a couple of names can make.

Mongo

Surely with the same personnel you would be better playing with Smalling, Jones, Evans and Shaw with Fletch and Herrera in front of them, Valencia, Mata and Welbeck ahead of them and then Rooney up top? Seems more balanced to me?

hufpc8w3adnk65

Mongo wrote: »

Surely with the same personnel you would be better playing with Smalling, Jones, Evans and Shaw with Fletch and Herrera in front of them, Valencia, Mata and Welbeck ahead of them and then Rooney up top? Seems more balanced to me?

Thats why we pay LVG the big bucks, he sees things others don't

Liam O

Mongo wrote: »

Surely with the same personnel you would be better playing with Smalling, Jones, Evans and Shaw with Fletch and Herrera in front of them, Valencia, Mata and Welbeck ahead of them and then Rooney up top? Seems more balanced to me?

Other than the fact that Smalling is poison at RB. Him covering the right side of CB and Evans the left with Jones allowed to move into midfield sounds very appealing imo. Raf would be better but the fact that Dirk Kuyt looked good in the RWB role in the WC would lead me to believe Valo would do well enough there being more athletic and his defensive lack of ability wouldn't be a problem with Smalling behind him. Would prefer Nani playing the Robben role instead of Welbeck but I don't mind Welbeck cutting in from a wide forward position.

Manutd_4life

What time is kick off in gmt time zone for tonight's game

Lord TSC

Manutd_4life wrote: »

What time is kick off in gmt time zone for tonight's game

I think 4 AM

Manutd_4life

Lord TSC wrote: »

I think 4 AM

Why do u think. There's so many different times for kick off on loads of websites. Does anyone know for sure officially what time is kick off

Lord TSC

Manutd_4life wrote: »

Why do u think. There's so many different times for kick off on loads of websites. Does anyone know for sure officially what time is kick off

It's 4:06 AM to be exact.

redbaron_99

4.05AM kick off.
After seeing that starting line-up, I would say Woody's phone will start ringing at approximately 5.50AM.

Headshot

lads just to say MLS games are notorious for kicking of late so be prepared, just incase its the same for this friendly

The Moldy Gowl

What's up with the 6 minutes?

Vic Vinegar

redbaron_99 wrote: »

4.05AM kick off.
After seeing that starting line-up, I would say Woody's phone will start ringing at approximately 5.50AM.

It's not an official line up though is it? it's speculation on the part of one journo (who works for the People)

MagicMarker

7 hours till kick off!

Adamocovic

MagicMarker wrote: »

7 hours till kick off!

Think time for the nap! going to be tough to get up for the match

shadowcomplex

what about a 4-3-3 formation where Rooney, RVP, and Mata are our front 3 attackers and theres no rigid system where one stays right one up front and on on the left, all are number 10s and all interchange with each other, no such thing as striker, those guys are attackers

v3ttel

How are people planning on watching the match?

I don't want to subscribe to MUTV (just because I'll probably end up watching too much of it every day).

thelad95

v3ttel wrote: »

How are people planning on watching the match?

I don't want to subscribe to MUTV (just because I'll probably end up watching too much of it every day).

I'll probably use a special recipe

redbaron_99

shadowcomplex wrote: »

what about a 4-3-3 formation where Rooney, RVP, and Mata are our front 3 attackers and theres no rigid system where one stays right one up front and on on the left, all are number 10s and all interchange with each other, no such thing as striker, those guys are attackers

sounds good. but who are the three midfielders?

zarquon

v3ttel wrote: »

How are people planning on watching the match?

I don't want to subscribe to MUTV (just because I'll probably end up watching too much of it every day).

Fox Sports is showing it in the US so there should be plenty of "rivers" knocking about

KevIRL

Please no match thread for meaningless friendlies anyway, leave that kind of carry on to others....

Will I Amnt

KevIRL wrote: »

Please no match thread for meaningless friendlies anyway, leave that kind of carry on to others....

Be doing well to hit 50 posts anyway considering the time too. I'm sure this thread can take the hit.

Saucy McKetchup

v3ttel wrote: »

How are people planning on watching the match?

I don't want to subscribe to MUTV (just because I'll probably end up watching too much of it every day).

Don't worry, you won't, after a few days it's nothing but repeats, great to have for the friendlies though

Too Tough To Die

What time is this match?

Donnielighto

shadowcomplex wrote: »

what about a 4-3-3 formation where Rooney, RVP, and Mata are our front 3 attackers and theres no rigid system where one stays right one up front and on on the left, all are number 10s and all interchange with each other, no such thing as striker, those guys are attackers

Sure give us a lineup there.

homerjay2005

am i right in saying that Van Gaal didnt play 3 center back in every game at the world cup?

based on the bigger games anyway, this is how you'd expect us to line up assuming we sign 2 more players. i honestly think Valencia is going to be first choice wing back.

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DDG

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----Smalling---New Signing---Evans----
Valencia

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Shaw

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Herrera----New signing

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Mata

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Rooney

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RVP

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unless we are adding two top class players in there which i dont think is going to happen, i just cannot get excited about that team when it comes to first 11 quality.

weisses

homerjay2005 wrote: »

am i right in saying that Van Gaal didnt play 3 center back in every game at the world cup?

based on the bigger games anyway, this is how you'd expect us to line up assuming we sign 2 more players. i honestly think Valencia is going to be first choice wing back.

To the best of my knowledge he only played this system to compensate for the poor midfield ... He wasn't a fan of the 5 -3 -2 before the WC, don't know his views on it now though

homerjay2005

weisses wrote: »

To the best of my knowledge he only played this system to compensate for the poor midfield ... He wasn't a fan of the 5 -3 -2 before the WC, don't know his views on it now though

well thats sorted then, we are playing it for the entire season.

Donnielighto

If anyones interested.

Jones up front?

Edit: Seems he's saying Tony not rooney.

Backstreet Moyes

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De Gea

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Smalling

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Jones

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Evans

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----Rafael

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Shaw

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Herrera

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Carrick

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Mata

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Rooney

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RVP

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thelad95

Donnielighto wrote: »

If anyones interested.

Jones up front?

Edit: Seems he's saying Tony not rooney.

Yeah he definitely says Tony because he then says ''you don't have to hit the ball so hard, go for the corners''.

Mikeyt086

Lads, crazy prices on the official United store, I just bought the new home shirt with Mata 8 on the back for €40 delivered.

http://store.manutd.com/stores/manutd/products/kit_selector.aspx?selectorid=518

Same price for the away shirt, €26, €5 for printing and €8 for postage. Shorts and socks are cheap too. Might be an error but get the orders in and see if they will honor it.

Rayne Wooney

It's amazing that a premier league attacking player needs to be told how to shoot

Tony V won't last very if his form from the last two seasons keeps up

jimmytwotimes 2013

thelad95 wrote: »

Yeah he definitely says Tony because he then says ''you don't have to hit the ball so hard, go for the corners''.

He might even tell Tony he doesnt have to try and break a full-back's ankles with every cross either.

While he's at it he may as well tell Tony to stop showing off with his no-look crosses

ScummyMan

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

Lads, crazy prices on the official United store, I just bought the new home shirt with Mata 8 on the back for €40 delivered.

http://store.manutd.com/stores/manutd/products/kit_selector.aspx?selectorid=518

Same price for the away shirt, €26, €5 for printing and €8 for postage. Shorts and socks are cheap too. Might be an error but get the orders in and see if they will honor it.

66 beans it's telling me for the shirt alone? Am I missing something?

Donnielighto

£40 maybe?

zarquon

Chevrolet are legally streaming the game tonight for anyone who will be up

http://www.chevroletfc.com/en-gl/#!/

brinty

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

Lads, crazy prices on the official United store, I just bought the new home shirt with Mata 8 on the back for €40 delivered.

http://store.manutd.com/stores/manutd/products/kit_selector.aspx?selectorid=518

Same price for the away shirt, €26, €5 for printing and €8 for postage. Shorts and socks are cheap too. Might be an error but get the orders in and see if they will honor it.

Normal price back now
Good luck hope they honor it

weisses

homerjay2005 wrote: »

well thats sorted then, we are playing it for the entire season.

difference now is that he can buy his dreamed midfield probably

sReq | uTeK

What time is kick off ?

Backstreet Moyes

homerjay2005 wrote: »

am i right in saying that Van Gaal didnt play 3 center back in every game at the world cup?

based on the bigger games anyway, this is how you'd expect us to line up assuming we sign 2 more players. i honestly think Valencia is going to be first choice wing back.

---

DDG

---

----Smalling---New Signing---Evans----
Valencia

---

Shaw

---

Herrera----New signing

---

---

Mata

---

---

Rooney

---

---

RVP

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unless we are adding two top class players in there which i dont think is going to happen, i just cannot get excited about that team when it comes to first 11 quality.

Why do you think he would put Valencia ahead of Rafael in a position that requires the player to offer creativity going forward.