Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

beakerjoe

Copper_pipe wrote: »

http://www.latercera.com/noticia/deportes/2014/08/656-590927-9-manchester-united-prepara-nueva-formula-para-fichar-al-deseado-arturo-vidal.shtml

Ed was just soliciting by the looks of it.

TheTownie

Benatia's agent.

"Benatia to Chelsea. It’s not true," he told Tuttomercatoweb.com. "As far as we are concerned they are just rumours."

Sissoko was then asked whether this means Benatia will be staying with the Giallorossi and gave a positive response.

"I would say yes," he answered.

redbaron_99

Mitch Connor wrote: »

United really is a joke of a club. Season not started for us and already we have allowed ourselves to fall into an absolute crisis through horrid squad management.

1 right back, injured.
1left back, injured.
3 centre backs, 1 injured.
2 reliable centre mids, 1 injured.

Clap, clap, clap.

Have to agree. It doesn't make for good reading at all. Welbeck, Evans, Rafeal, Valencia, Shaw, RVP, Carrick unavailable for the start of the season.

The annoying thing is when you have to field a team with a lot of youngsters, it encourages the opposition to really go after you. The first few games were meant to be the easy ones. Each of them will probably turn out to be right scraps.
An injury to any of Rooney, Herrera, Smalling or Jones now and we are actually in trouble.

redbaron_99

Soldie wrote: »

You'd have to wonder why some of the posters here don't just give up supporting United. It's an endless stream of negativity, pessimism and good old fashioned moaning.

We're at the beginning of a new season, and the squad is starting to look decimated. I think it's fair if posters want to discuss this very obvious problem that we have with injuries in areas that we are painfully short in.

homerjay2005

Soldie wrote: »

You'd have to wonder why some of the posters here don't just give up supporting United. It's an endless stream of negativity, pessimism and good old fashioned moaning.

these posts like yours are as regular as the "moaning" though it took 5.30 before they surfaced today.

there is not one legitimate poster on here who is not 100% behind the team and wants whats in the best interests of the club.

not being happy with our transfer appraoch, our board, our owners or anything else off the pitch should mean f*ck all to posters like yourself, unless you are related to the Glazers, Woodward or the tea lady.

if people dont agree that some people just dont think the club is being run right in the last few years, which alot of people believe is the case then posting on an internet forum shouldnt be in your list of regular items.

Soldie

redbaron_99 wrote: »

We're at the beginning of a new season, and the squad is starting to look decimated. I think it's fair if posters want to discuss this very obvious problem that we have with injuries in areas that we are painfully short in.

Right, but I'm actually referring to the posters who put a negative spin on absolutely everything. This injury crisis is just the latest thing to have a moan about.

Coat22

Copper_pipe wrote: »

http://www.latercera.com/noticia/deportes/2014/08/656-590927-9-manchester-united-prepara-nueva-formula-para-fichar-al-deseado-arturo-vidal.shtml

What really happened was Ed slapped him across the head and told him to cop on but "Ed just bitch slapped me and made me cry" wasn't going to look so good on Twitter

Crimson King

Shaw out for a month, well that blows!

redbaron_99

Soldie wrote: »

Right, but I'm actually referring to the posters who put a negative spin on absolutely everything. This injury crisis is just the latest thing to have a moan about.

fair enough, yeah.

Nolars

United release 2014/15 squad numbers
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2014/Aug/manchester-united-squad-numbers-for-201415-season.aspx?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=ManUtd

homerjay2005

so this is our squad so far for next season..have bolded the ones who i reckon will be playing for other clubs in September.

1. De Gea; 2. Rafael; 3. Shaw; 4. Jones; 6. Evans; 8. Mata; 10. Rooney; 11. Januzaj; 12. Smalling; 13. Lindegaard; 14. Chicharito; 16. Carrick; 17. Nani; 18. Young; 19. Welbeck; 20. van Persie; 21. Herrera; 22. Powell; 23. Cleverley; 24. Fletcher; 25. Valencia; 26. Kagawa; 28. Anderson; 29. Zaha; 30. Varela; 31. Fellaini; 34. Lawrence; 35. Lingard; 36. Vermijl; 38. M Keane; 39. Thorpe; 40. Amos; 41. James; 42. Blackett; 45. Petrucci; 46. Rothwell; 48. W Keane; 49. Wilson; 50. Johnstone.

TheFullDuck

Nolars wrote: »

United release 2014/15 squad numbers
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2014/Aug/manchester-united-squad-numbers-for-201415-season.aspx?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=ManUtd

Shaw 3
Herrera 21
Januzaj 11
Anderson 28
Powell 22

seem to be the only moves

Soldie

Nolars wrote: »

United release 2014/15 squad numbers
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2014/Aug/manchester-united-squad-numbers-for-201415-season.aspx?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=ManUtd

5. Rojo
7. Vidal
9. Di María

:cool:

Whatsisname

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Vegard Fl. Vaagbo ‏@VegardFV 6m
According to Sunnmørsposten Lindegaard has been released. Agent Michael Stensgaard says he will comment later tonight. #mufc

homerjay2005

Soldie wrote: »

Right, but I'm actually referring to the posters who put a negative spin on absolutely everything. This injury crisis is just the latest thing to have a moan about.

dont see anybody complaining about an injury crisis. what i do see is a poster saying that the club should never have allowed ourselves to be in a position where we only have 2 fit senior defenders going into our first game.

we left 5 defenders leave the club, but only brought one in. that isnt moaning, its discussing a very very concerning aspect that our club has allowed to develop.

redbaron_99

homerjay2005 wrote: »

dont see anybody complaining about an injury crisis. what i do see is a poster saying that the club should never have allowed ourselves to be in a position where we only have 2 fit senior defenders going into our first game.

we left 5 defenders leave the club, but only brought one in. that isnt moaning, its discussing a very very concerning aspect that our club has allowed to develop.

Very good points. You do have to wonder how it's been allowed to happen. I really dont think the same thing would have happened at any other top club around Europe. Bit disturbing.

homerjay2005

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Very good points. You do have to wonder how it's been allowed to happen. I really dont think the same thing would have happened at any other top club around Europe. Bit disturbing.

we werent able to sign (yet) the players we wanted, its that simple really.

xtal191

Maybe nobody wants to sign for Utd

redbaron_99

homerjay2005 wrote: »

we werent able to sign (yet) the players we wanted, its that simple really.

Why we havent been able to sign them is the question.

beakerjoe

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Why we havent been able to sign them is the question.

The players dont want to or teams dont want to sell.

Mitch Connor

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Why we havent been able to sign them is the question.

Well if you believe Woodward it's cause we don't want to sign anyone. According to him money is no object and all the top players still want to come to united.

Soldie

homerjay2005 wrote: »

these posts like yours are as regular as the "moaning" though it took 5.30 before they surfaced today.

there is not one legitimate poster on here who is not 100% behind the team and wants whats in the best interests of the club.

not being happy with our transfer appraoch, our board, our owners or anything else off the pitch should mean f*ck all to posters like yourself, unless you are related to the Glazers, Woodward or the tea lady.

if people dont agree that some people just dont think the club is being run right in the last few years, which alot of people believe is the case then posting on an internet forum shouldnt be in your list of regular items.

homerjay2005 wrote: »

dont see anybody complaining about an injury crisis. what i do see is a poster saying that the club should never have allowed ourselves to be in a position where we only have 2 fit senior defenders going into our first game.

we left 5 defenders leave the club, but only brought one in. that isnt moaning, its discussing a very very concerning aspect that our club has allowed to develop.

I didn't mention any names in my post but you obviously felt it applied to you.

I think this is a great place to read news and tidbits about the club and to discuss things with other fans, but I find it incredibly tiresome that the same coterie of posters is "very, very concerned" by just about everything the club does. It's a persistent negative outlook on everything, without fail.

I'm quietly confident we'll bag three points against Swansea. I'm also confident we'll make some decent moves in the transfer market before the windows shuts.

Nalz

Soldie wrote: »

You'd have to wonder why some of the posters here don't just give up supporting United. It's an endless stream of negativity, pessimism and good old fashioned moaning.

its rant.ie or moan.ie for them a lot of the time, not boards.ie ... then when anyone like yourself points it out you get the "nothing wrong with highlighting concern for the club". Thing is it gets highlighted every fu'cking two seconds

Soldie wrote: »

I It's a persistent negative outlook on everything, without fail.

Exactly

redbaron_99

beakerjoe wrote: »

The players dont want to or teams dont want to sell.

Or we can't decide who to target. Or the club isn't releasing the funds to get the players we need.

Spazdarn

Whoever gets the business done at Chelsea or City, get those guys here.

Lord TSC

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Well if you believe Woodward it's cause we don't want to sign anyone. According to him money is no object and all the top players still want to come to united.

The chairman of a multi-million dollar operation saying what will please fans and board members publicly. Well, I never...

beakerjoe

Lord TSC wrote: »

The chairman of a multi-million dollar operation saying what will please fans and board members publicly. Well, I never...

This isnt the WWE Network thread is it?? :pac:

homerjay2005

does anybody know for sure if the Shaw is actually out for a month?

i guess if he is, then it could force the club to hurry the F*ck up and get some defenders in.

beakerjoe

homerjay2005 wrote: »

does anybody know for sure if the Shaw is actually out for a month?

i guess if he is, then it could force the club to hurry the F*ck up and get some defenders in.

Not likely, Carrick has been out nearly for a month already and no sign of another CM

TheTownie

homerjay2005 wrote: »

does anybody know for sure if the Shaw is actually out for a month?

i guess if he is, then it could force the club to hurry the F*ck up and get some defenders in.

Well the wording was up to a month so I guess theres a chance it could be less.

Reedsie

It's unfortunate that we have had so many injuries when things are tight enough as it is but we'll go into the Swansea, Sunderland, Burnley, QPR, Leicester and West Ham games with a vastly better team than the opposition and everyone will be expecting 3 points from each game.
We should have a much improved team available by the time we play Everton on October 5th.


I'd certainly agree with Soldie. It's football. Everyone wants the best for their team but you can't have it affecting your life in a more negative way than positive.
Then there's the other aspect I suppose in that people if people are not getting on very well in their real lives it may affect their mindset and how they post/come across on here. That's a separate issue.

But either way it was a long summer and the new season is just 3 bloody days away! Can't wait, bring it on.

homerjay2005

Soldie wrote: »

I didn't mention any names in my post but you obviously felt it applied to you.

but I find it incredibly tiresome that the same coterie of posters is "very, very concerned" by just about everything the club does. It's a persistent negative outlook on everything, without fail.

its pretty clear who the post was intended at, i dont know why or how you get the impression that i "obviously" believed it was aimed at me.

I (and im sure dozens of other posters) find it extremely tiresome to see the same bunch of posters constantly whinging and moaning the very second somebody questions the clubs business practices.

every day, its the same s*ite - somebody posts something "negative" and theres 10 posts with people throwing a hissy fit over it. its borderline thread derailment yet f*ck all is done about it.

Will I Amnt

homerjay2005 wrote: »

every day, its the same s*ite - somebody posts something "negative" and theres 10 posts with people throwing a hissy fit over it.

It's actually the hissy fit that comes first that kicks it all off.

redbaron_99

Reedsie wrote: »

It's unfortunate that we have had so many injuries when things are tight enough as it is but we'll go into the Swansea, Sunderland, Burnley, QPR, Leicester and West Ham games with a vastly better team than the opposition and everyone will be expecting 3 points from each game.
We should have a much improved team available by the time we play Everton on October 5th.


I'd certainly agree with Soldie. It's football. Everyone wants the best for their team but you can't have it affecting your life in a more negative way than positive.
Then there's the other aspect I suppose in that people if people are not getting on very well in their real lives it may affect their mindset and how they post/come across on here. That's a separate issue.

But either way it was a long summer and the new season is just 3 bloody days away! Can't wait, bring it on.

I'm quite a happy camper in my day to day life. Have a good sex life and all. Love watching United. I don't get too moody when we have a bad result. Football is a part of my life, but I would never let it dictate my life.

I love the club, and that's why I've done a bit of moaning today. Personally I think the squad has been in decline for a number of years (despite winning the league in 2013). It's getting weaker and weaker, and sooner or later, if we want to get back to the top, the club will have to address the problems: too many mediocre players, too many injury prone players, not having the right balance in the squad.

Either way, I'll be in the pub on Saturday afternoon, giddy as a kid on Christmas eve.

kryogen

Chelsea and City hardly get deals done instantly either. (In response to whoever said to get whoever does there business here)

bucketybuck

homerjay2005 wrote: »

in the unlikely event that we were to sign Rojo, Blind and Di Maria, how would people view that as a summer?

1 - excellent summer, guaranteed title challengers and £140m very well spent.
2- good summer, but needing alot more investment next year - will do for now.
3 - underwhelming considering what could have been bought with that money and still lacking at least 2 top class central players

It would be yet another transfer window gone without properly fixing the midfield. It would be a failure by definition.

Soldie wrote: »

Right, but I'm actually referring to the posters who put a negative spin on absolutely everything. This injury crisis is just the latest thing to have a moan about.

Gee, I never considered that this injury crisis was a good thing, how remiss of me.

brinty

redbaron_99 wrote: »

I'm quite a happy camper in my day to day life. Have a good sex life and all. Love watching United. I don't get too moody when we have a bad result. Football is a part of my life, but I would never let it dictate my life.

I love the club, and that's why I've done a bit of moaning today. Personally I think the squad has been in decline for a number of years (despite winning the league in 2013). It's getting weaker and weaker, and sooner or later, if we want to get back to the top, the club will have to address the problems: too many mediocre players, too many injury prone players, not having the right balance in the squad.

Either way, I'll be in the pub on Saturday afternoon, giddy as a kid on Christmas eve.

Does Ms Redbaron agree???

In fairness i'd agree with what you're saying there

Have BT sport and Ms Brinty will be working so feet up for the afternoon for it... now if only i could teach the dog to make me tea

tupac_healy

Eurosport saying Lindegaard released?

Surprised at that one

redbaron_99

brinty wrote: »

Does Ms Redbaron agree???

In fairness i'd agree with what you're saying there

Have BT sport and Ms Brinty will be working so feet up for the afternoon for it... now if only i could teach the dog to make me tea

No comment. :pac:

brinty

tupac_healy wrote: »

Eurosport saying Lindegaard released?

Surprised at that one

that'd be odd but understandable
I'd imagined one of the keepers was out the door and Amos and Johnstone are both English so Anders going is proabably for the best.

Pity, his missus was hot stuff i heard, Giggsy might have wanted to tuck into her now he's retired

Lord TSC

tupac_healy wrote: »

Eurosport saying Lindegaard released?

Surprised at that one

Can't say I am; Amos seemed to be getting the time on the becnh in pre-season. Honestly worry this means we need a better back up keeper now too; would not want Amos in nets for a long period of time...

Winston Payne

Lindegaard was useless, and a moaner with it. Good riddance.

bucketybuck

kryogen wrote: »

Chelsea and City hardly get deals done instantly either. (In response to whoever said to get whoever does there business here)

City and Chelsea have bought five players each, to the best of my knowledge. And they didn't even need five each.

bucketybuck

bucketybuck wrote: »

City and Chelsea have bought five players each, to the best of my knowledge. And they didn't even need five each.

Utd effectively had no manager from May until the latter half of July which couldn't have helped.

kryogen

tupac_healy wrote: »

Eurosport saying Lindegaard released?

Surprised at that one

How come?

Lord TSC

Manchester United ‏@ManUtd 52m
Please note: any new acquisitions will be handed shirt numbers that are currently vacant. #mufc

The offical twitter account seems to think people are coming :pac:

kryogen

bucketybuck wrote: »

City and Chelsea have bought five players each, to the best of my knowledge. And they didn't even need five each.

That has roughly what to do with them getting deals done quickly?

Costa was a saga.
Mangala was no different.

If you want to say they identified weaknesses this summer and filled them that hardly explains why Jose was able to discuss with everybody Chelseas weaknesses last year and still do nothing about it.

By the way, Chelsea needed a striker, they needed at least one midfielder, they needed a left back and a centre back. I would say they needed five quite easily actually

City need to replace the players they are letting go, they have to have a squad capable of competing on four fronts.

Reedsie

bucketybuck wrote: »

City and Chelsea have bought five players each, to the best of my knowledge. And they didn't even need five each.

And I'm sure you want players equal to or of better quality than the players those teams are getting. But they are in the Champions League. And they are much more likely to be in the Champions League next season than Man Utd.

tupac_healy

kryogen wrote: »

How come?

Experienced keeper that was decent backup to our no.1


We are kinda lacking backup in general at present

Lucas Hood

tupac_healy wrote: »

Experienced keeper that was decent backup to our no.1


We are kinda lacking backup in general at present

He's not that experienced he's played 93 games in 10 seasons.