Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

redbaron_99

Liam O wrote: »

Ronaldo was not terrible in his first season. He was clearly ready, Januzaj isn't imo and a season of first team football would suit him better than being in and out of the team, mostly out if it's a 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 being played.

In all fairness ronaldo also was maddening at times, and not just his first season. I clearly remember a CL group game and he was so wasteful! Giggs got substituted and you could clearly see him saying to fergie "why didn't you take that show pony off?"

Backstreet Moyes

Liam O wrote: »

Ronaldo was not terrible in his first season. He was clearly ready, Januzaj isn't imo and a season of first team football would suit him better than being in and out of the team, mostly out if it's a 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 being played.

You seriously think Ronaldo was ready in his first season. He showed flashes but was frustrating and very inconsistent. I would say Janjuaz comfortably had a better first season in a much weaker team.

RGDATA!

Zico wrote: »

Ronaldo was terrible in his first season.

would you say Januzaj had a terrible season last year?

Backstreet Moyes

I don't know how Kagawa is going to fit in or what will happen. But the man is a genius i would love him to get a proper run in his best position this season.

dahat

Steve Bates has Cleverly starting and as a possible capt tonight, you have to admire LVG trying to restore the lads confidence after Moyes reign seemed to destroy him.

A midfield 3 suits him so let's see if he can rebuild his Utd career.

Zico

RGDATA! wrote: »

would you say Januzaj had a terrible season last year?

I thought he had a great season, for a kid, when others failled to produce.

I remember Terry Cooke and Ben Thornley looking amazing, better than Scholes did in'95 and G. Neville being ****.

Time will tell.

Vic Vinegar

dahat wrote: »

Steve Bates has Cleverly starting and as a possible capt tonight, you have to admire LVG trying to restore the lads confidence after Moyes reign seemed to destroy him.

A midfield 3 suits him so let's see if he can rebuild his Utd career.

Himself and Blackett are the only players playing the whole ninety tonight, so it makes sense.

Hococop

dahat wrote: »

Steve Bates has Cleverly starting and as a possible capt tonight, you have to admire LVG trying to restore the lads confidence after Moyes reign seemed to destroy him.

A midfield 3 suits him so let's see if he can rebuild his Utd career.

Hopefully we see a robben revival

dahat

After last season he needs to get some confidence plus think this is the last year of his contract.

RGDATA!

Zico wrote: »

I thought he had a great season, for a kid, when others failled to produce.

I remember Terry Cooke and Ben Thornley looking amazing, better than Scholes did in'95 and G. Neville being ****.

Time will tell.

Likewise. If you look at pure stats, Januzaj and Ronaldo actually had very similar first seasons, which is why I brought the former up. Ronaldo was a long way from the finished article in his first season - wouldn't dream of arguing that. But he was a breath of fresh air like Januzaj this year, and "terrible" is OTT.

Zico

RGDATA! wrote: »

and "terrible" is OTT.

Terrible is what I remember, not what I read in stats.

Same with Peter Schmeichel's first season.

I remember him making a lot of mistakes and having problems with his defenders. But the stats will tell you something else.

Valmont

Is it just me or has the price of MUTV risen considerably? It's £6 a month now but I could swear I paid a once of fee of twenty quid or so last year? Either way, I will watch the Roma game somehow. Looking forward to seeing the new setup, I hope Mata has a central role, he is too good to have on the wing or on the bench.

adox

Still unsure where I'm gonna watch the game from tonight. My usual source doesn't have it listed but still may show it. They support airplay as well, which is a must for me.

Was gonna subscribe to the Utd Live link that someone posted earlier. I emailed them to ask if they supported airplay. They emailed back within five minutes which was great but they didn't really answer the question, said if my device supported it I could hook it up to my tv and output it that way. No really applicable to an ipad.

May still subscribe to MUTV for a month unless I can find an alternative in the meantime.

billyhead

Folks, Can anyone recommend where I could watch the match for free online

bangkok

Zico wrote: »

Terrible is what I remember, not what I read in stats.

Same with Peter Schmeichel's first season.

I remember him making a lot of mistakes and having problems with his defenders. But the stats will tell you something else.

he was far from terrible, that debut against bolton i will never forget. the whole crowd in the stadium got to their feet when he was brought on as he had been unbelievable in training and word spread fast that there was about to be a star in the making. he didnt disappoint. what a debut.

6 goals in his first season for an 18 year old new to the premier league was good going. yes he did the odd stupid stepover when there was no need, but he wasnt afraid to try it.

redbaron_99

Tom Cleverley as captain... I really hope that's a bad joke.

Maximus Alexander

Gentlemen, someone mentioned a few pages back that you can sign up somewhere for a fiver to watch the tour matches - where do I do that? Please and thanks.

Liam O

Zico wrote: »

Terrible is what I remember, not what I read in stats.

Same with Peter Schmeichel's first season.

I remember him making a lot of mistakes and having problems with his defenders. But the stats will tell you something else.

Ha so Ronaldo was terrible but Januzaj was great while a year older? Ronaldo was the difference in a lot of games his first season, he scored some important goals and stepped up when relied upon. There were some mistakes obviously but when the ball was at his feet you felt something could happen. I kind of felt like that for a couple of games after the 2 goals Januzaj got but it quickly descended into taking on defenders and getting shown out wide or put on his ass. Ronaldo was taking them apart, a criticism of him was that he tried to beat them too many times. Ronaldo at Januzaj's age was miles ahead of where Januzaj is now.

bmcc10

billyhead wrote: »

Folks, Can anyone recommend where I could watch the match for free online

That sir is illegal :rolleyes:

TheTownie

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Gentlemen, someone mentioned a few pages back that you can sign up somewhere for a fiver to watch the tour matches - where do I do that? Please and thanks.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=91445661&postcount=1555

Lord TSC

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Gentlemen, someone mentioned a few pages back that you can sign up somewhere for a fiver to watch the tour matches - where do I do that? Please and thanks.

http://unitedlive.manutd.com/

Maximus Alexander

TheTownie wrote: »

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http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=91445661&postcount=1555

You're a legendary ledgebox. Thanks.

Lord TSC wrote: »

http://unitedlive.manutd.com/

You are also a legendary ledgebox.

Sheepy99

ShoulderChip wrote: »

Can't believe these Torres to United rumours, crazy stuff!

That's not a rumour it's someone having a piss take

Sheepy99

zerks wrote: »

AS are saying that it's not a loan but a €65 million fee,if it's true then either PSG are going to sell players or are trying to make a mockery of FFP.If it's the latter then serious sanctions should be imposed on them.

Don't forget about City they're just a bit more discrete about it

Sheepy99

Nuts102 wrote: »

Wow a young attacking player making a few bad decisions shocker. He done better than people expected in a terrible side. He will improve a ton next season and will be a huge part of any success next season.

I would certainly rather keep him around getting coached by LVG instead of carted off to some middle team side who play negative football.

Hopefully I'm wrong because it's always good to see a young player come through but I reckon the more successful United are this season, the less his presence or input will be noticed. If United somehow pulled a shocker again this season then he'd go down as one of the better performers. Just don't think he's at that level yet

recyclops

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Gentlemen, someone mentioned a few pages back that you can sign up somewhere for a fiver to watch the tour matches - where do I do that? Please and thanks.

United live.manutd.com I just signed up there

Owryan

Lord TSC wrote: »

http://unitedlive.manutd.com/

Cheers, now to get the kids to bed

Grid.

Is it on Sky????

adox

Grid. wrote: »

Is it on Sky????

Nope.

Edit: well it's on MUTV on the Sky platform.

adox

recyclops wrote: »

United live.manutd.com I just signed up there

Lads any reason youse are signing up here? I relative it's a bit cheaper than a month of MUTV but restricted to watching on a PC or mobile device.
Isn't a month of MUTV better value?

rockal

adox wrote: »

Lads any reason youse are signing up here? I relative it's a bit cheaper than a month of MUTV but restricted to watching on a PC or mobile device.
Isn't a month of MUTV better value?

Only if you're on SKY

ScummyMan

adox wrote: »

Lads any reason youse are signing up here? I relative it's a bit cheaper than a month of MUTV but restricted to watching on a PC or mobile device.
Isn't a month of MUTV better value?

The cancellation fee I'd imagine.

Lord TSC

adox wrote: »

Lads any reason youse are signing up here? I relative it's a bit cheaper than a month of MUTV but restricted to watching on a PC or mobile device.
Isn't a month of MUTV better value?

I thought I read you can't buy just a single month of MUTV

Anyway, I'd be watching on my laptop anyway due to circumstances...

TheTownie

adox wrote: »

Lads any reason youse are signing up here? I relative it's a bit cheaper than a month of MUTV but restricted to watching on a PC or mobile device.
Isn't a month of MUTV better value?

Its gives me on-demand access to matches should I miss them.

and no I'm not arsed recording MUTV. :P

Whatsisname

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recyclops

adox wrote: »

Lads any reason youse are signing up here? I relative it's a bit cheaper than a month of MUTV but restricted to watching on a PC or mobile device.
Isn't a month of MUTV better value?

Hdmi to TV and I'm sorted

LostBoy101

Cleverley as captain? what the hell..

Technophobe

Donnielighto wrote: »

No. Now I dont want anything to do with you.

If you read the post right, you would see I meant that 2 centrebacks and some random midfielder could now possibly be our lot...
But you went off and got your knickers in a twist..so fine..doesn't bother me

Rayne Wooney

Why the fook would Cleverley be captain

He is probably the least courageous player we have, hides away from the ball when the going is tough

TheTownie

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Why the fook would Cleverley be captain

He is probably the least courageous player we have, hides away from the ball when the going is tough

Even Cleverly will be wondering why he is captain.

ScummyMan

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Why the fook would Cleverley be captain

He is probably the least courageous player we have, hides away from the ball when the going is tough

Trying to boost his confidence maybe?
He received way too much abuse last season, his confidence must be at rock bottom.
I still believe he isn't as bad a player as last year's form showed, remember the start of the season a few years ago when himself and Anderson were ripping teams apart?

homerjay2005

De Vrij, Blind main targets, with Vermaelen and Di Maria also on our radar according to Howard Nurse.

And again,he is another who says Vidal not on list.

martinr5232

adox wrote: »

Did you ring up for the offer? Did you have to subscribe for 12 months?

No way I'm missing the game tonight. Just trying to decide which way to go about it.

Yeah i rang got the number on sky.com and rang no twelve month contract

Maximus Alexander

The captain choice for these games is meaningless, obviously Cleverley isn't going to be captain in competitive matches.

Vic Vinegar

Cleverley is the most senior player who is playng the whole 90 minutes, so he's captain for the day. What's the big deal? jesus lads.

Whatsisname

homerjay2005 wrote: »

De Vrij, Blind main targets, with Vermaelen and Di Maria also on our radar according to Howard Nurse.

And again,he is another who says Vidal not on list.

if those 4 are the main targets, you'd have to wonder why De Vrij and Blind haven't already been signed

Mr_Red

I got MUTV on UPC for 8 euros a month with a 10 euro cancel fee

Technophobe

Anyone think Roma will be pissed off with LVG, with the way he was discussing possibly signing Strootman today..?? From what I heard ( will have another look for clip) sounded bit disrespectful..?

UnitedIrishman

Man.UnitedLad wrote: »

Trying to boost his confidence maybe?
He received way too much abuse last season, his confidence must be at rock bottom.
I still believe he isn't as bad a player as last year's form showed, remember the start of the season a few years ago when himself and Anderson were ripping teams apart?

Might be like Alan Massey out of Mike Bassett..

adox

homerjay2005 wrote: »

De Vrij, Blind main targets, with Vermaelen and Di Maria also on our radar according to Howard Nurse.

And again,he is another who says Vidal not on list.

Think the Vidal story has ran it's course at this stage.