Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

redbaron_99

Cookiemunster wrote: »

That may be true, but you have no proof that Giggs in time wouldn't be a great manager either.

And there's no proof he'd be a good manager. Managers are usually hired on their track record, not on how good they were as players. Giggs would be a gamble.

Sure if you're all happy to gamble, then fine.

Cantona's Collars

109,901 fans will attend the Real Madrid - MUFC game - a record for a football match in the USA. [marca]

MagicIRL

redbaron_99 wrote: »

And there's no proof he'd be a good manager. Managers are usually hired on their track record, not on how good they were as players. Giggs would be a gamble.

Sure if you're all happy to gamble, then fine.

Giggsy is a legend, but you simply cannot spend 3 years following LvG and then take the reigns of one of the biggest clubs in world football.

It'll be Moyes 2.0. Moyes isn't a bad manager, he just couldn't handle the size of the club. Same for Giggs imo.

Son Of A Vidic

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Absolute rubbish.

I stopped reading after that compelling response. Now I suggest you clam down, grow up and take a Valium.

brinty

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Ugh, 22? GTFO.

Can people stop being so young please?

Cool, thanks.

I agree Maximus, i'm 34 and feel ancient

Cantona's Collars

Just saw the bit where LvG says he inherited a "broken squad".Kick in the balls for Moyes when he said it would have been better had he taken over from Fergie.
Morale among the players must have been at rock bottom.

Coat22

MagicIRL wrote: »

I am what I am.

What am I? A 22 year old with a borderline obsession with Andrea Pirlo, it would seem.

FFS That means he wasn’t even around when Fergie managed to fcuk away the first division title in 91/92!!

Oh to be 22 again

Cookiemunster

redbaron_99 wrote: »

And there's no proof he'd be a good manager. Managers are usually hired on their track record, not on how good they were as players. Giggs would be a gamble.

Sure if you're all happy to gamble, then fine.

How does a manager get a track record if nobody hires him? Plenty are thrown straight in. Some sink, some swim.

I'm not BTW saying that Giggs should get the job after LVG, only that your argument is flawed

MagicIRL

Rooney telling LvG he'll play #7, #11, #9 or 10 shows how big of a morale boost he has had on the team.

Cantona's Collars

MagicIRL wrote: »

I am what I am.

What am I? A 22 year old with a borderline obsession with Andrea Pirlo, it would seem.

Maximus Alexander

brinty wrote: »

I agree Maximus, i'm 34 and feel ancient

Ooh brinty, you just made me feel young again. :pac:

redbaron_99

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

I stopped reading after that compelling response. Now I suggest you clam down, grow up and take a Valium.

I'm sure you did read the response and have no proper come back. I'm quite grown up and don't need a valium, thank you very much.

redbaron_99

Cookiemunster wrote: »

How does a manager get a track record if nobody hires him? Plenty are thrown straight in. Some sink, some swim.

I'm not BTW saying that Giggs should get the job after LVG, only that your argument is flawed

I explained that earlier. He starts lower and works his way up.

Cantona's Collars

For The Mirror this is actually a decent article.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/louis-van-gaal-opposite-david-3927668

NeVeR

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Cantona's Collars

Posted this in the Off Topic thread:

Sign up for 1 month for €1 for Setanta/BT from 1st August. You can cancel straight away so you won't be billed for a 2nd month.

Scholes has signed up as a pundit plus United are the first televised game.

https://www.facebook.com/SetantaSportsIreland/photos/a.148614645193312.47798.146104712110972/685403828181055/?type=1&theater

RasTa

Shaw is looking a bit plump in this photo from last week.

http://instagram.com/p/qs7nYNCDMN/

Although in fairness he looks the same returning from the world cup

Zico

RasTa wrote: »

Shaw is looking a bit plump in this photo from last week.

http://instagram.com/p/qs7nYNCDMN/

Although in fairness he looks the same returning from the world cup

Maybe he should take up smoking to keep the weight off.:)

brinty

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Ooh brinty, you just made me feel young again. :pac:

You're most welcome, i could well be the old man of the thread!!!

NeVeR

NeVeR wrote: »

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Son Of A Vidic

redbaron_99 wrote: »

I'm sure you did read the response and have no proper come back. I'm quite grown up and don't need a valium, thank you very much.

Come back? Are you for real?



I think you need to climb down off that very high opinion you have of yourself.

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Absolute rubbish. Sitting beside a good manager makes you managerial quality? Sure why wasn't phelan given the job? He sat beside fergie long enough.
A great player does not make a great manager.

And where did I say that? Yes that's right, I didn't. I just said I want Giggs to to take over when LVG steps down. I made no mention, nor prediction that he would be a great manager in my post. In fact, he mightn't last any longer than Moyes. I did say that Giggs loooked more assured, more at home so to speak when he took over. And I rationalised that spending his entire career in the United pressure cooker, has made such pressure second nature to him. But no, once again, I never said he would be a great manager in that post.

But look, I'll cut you some slack. You're relatively new to Boards and here's a big tip that will stand you in good stead - read what you see in a post and not what you think you see. Do that and you'll save yourself a lot of hassle on this site.

homerjay2005

MagicIRL wrote: »

he just couldn't handle the size of the club. Same for Giggs imo.

ah come on, if there is one person that Understands manchester united its Ryan Giggs.

he will not be overawed in the slightest.

irishfeen

NeVeR wrote: »

sorry if posted already .. but just in case.

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bangkok

MagicIRL wrote: »

Giggsy is a legend, but you simply cannot spend 3 years following LvG and then take the reigns of one of the biggest clubs in world football.

It'll be Moyes 2.0. Moyes isn't a bad manager, he just couldn't handle the size of the club. Same for Giggs imo.

but giggs has been there since he was a kid... if he cant handle the size of the club no one could!! I think it was just moyes was never at a club that size before, didn't know how big commercially utd were or how many fans they have all over the world and was genuinely in awe of the task he was given

Cantona's Collars

irishfeen wrote: »

Ah will ya fcuk off with tempting offers like that and I broke

That's what aliexpress is for.;)

Spazdarn

Just because he won't be overawed doesn't mean he has the tactical noose or experience managing players to do a proper job.

Being well liked and experienced at United hasn't made Bryan Robson a good manager.

adox

brinty wrote: »

You're most welcome, i could well be the old man of the thread!!!

Not a hope!!

Cantona's Collars

You'd swear I had nothing to do but all this Vidal stuff has me distracted:

http://www.latercera.com/noticia/deportes/2014/07/656-588676-9-agente-de-vidal-viaja-a-turin-con-la-mega-oferta-del-m-united.shtml

redbaron_99

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Come back? Are you for real?



I think you need to climb down off that very high opinion you have of yourself.




And where did I say that? Yes that's right, I didn't. I just said I want Giggs to to take over when LVG steps down. I made no mention, nor prediction that he would be a great manager in my post. In fact, he mightn't last any longer than Moyes. I did say that Giggs loooked more assured, more at home so to speak when he took over. And I rationalised that spending his entire career in the United pressure cooker, has made such pressure second nature to him. But no, once again, I never said he would be a great manager in that post.

But look, I'll cut you some slack. You're relatively new to Boards and here's a big tip that will stand you in good stead - read what you see in a post and not what you think you see. Do that and you'll save yourself a lot of hassle on this site.

Oh, wow. You reply with a gif, general condescension, an insult and some advice to the "newb".

The manager taking over from LVG should be a great manager. Not taking a gamble.

Thanks for the advice.

Cantona's Collars

Aside from his new BT punditry role,Scholes has also signed up for UCL coverage on ITV.

Even Scholes gets Champions League football.


Guess that's the end of his coaching role at United.

RobertKK

Giggs said he couldn't sleep when he was caretaker manager, he picked his friends to play.
He made some good choices with the likes of Wilson, but it was clear he would not have been the right choice for manager of Manchester United right now.

He will learn a lot from Van Gaal.

Son Of A Vidic

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Oh, wow. You reply with a gif, general condescension, an insult and some advice to the "newb".

Sorry the victim card doesn't apply to you and let me remind you why. Your initial response to my opinion was, I quote....

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Absolute rubbish.

It was then followed by this gem......

redbaron_99 wrote: »

I'm sure you did read the response and have no proper come back.

Now if you had of left out the nonsense and said this from the start....

redbaron_99 wrote: »

The manager taking over from LVG should be a great manager. Not taking a gamble.

Everything would have been cool and I would have had no problem engaging in an exchange of views on the subject. As it was, you red flagged yourself from the start.

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Thanks for the advice.

Anytime.

redbaron_99

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Sorry the victim card doesn't apply to you and let me remind you why. Your initial response to my opinion was, I quote....



It was then followed by this gem......



Now if you had of left out the nonsense and said this from the start....



Everything would have been cool and I would have had no problem engaging in an exchange of views on the subject. As it was, you red flagged yourself from the start.



Anytime.

Take your own advice and calm down. Take a valium. You seem to be getting very worked up, lad.

MagicIRL

What is about adding 'lad' to the end of sentences? Is it trying to rile the other person up? As though you are the man and they the boy?

Adamocovic

Anyway..any news on Vidal? Hopefully he comes out and says where his future lies today. All the reliable sources like the Mail and Star have been saying he has agreed a united deal of roughly £60million! Seems like silly rumours for the sake of writing articles..well I hope at least!

brinty

MagicIRL wrote: »

What is about adding 'lad' to the end of sentences? Is it trying to rile the other person up? As though you are the man and they the boy?

Would the pair of them grow up..

keane2097

I'd say the guy who said he was 22 earlier is one of the elder statesmen in this thread.

Al Capwned

22 years old?

I was 22 two weeks before the Nou Camp in '99.

Pups, the lot of ye....

MagicIRL

keane2097 wrote: »

I'd say the guy who said he was 22 earlier is one of the elder statesmen in this thread.

You'll learn to regret that! I bet I'll show myself up before the week is out! :pac::cool:

redbaron_99

MagicIRL wrote: »

What is about adding 'lad' to the end of sentences? Is it trying to rile the other person up? As though you are the man and they the boy?

No, this sort of stuff riles people more than the word "lad"

"Now I suggest you clam down, grow up and take a Valium. "

"I think you need to climb down off that very high opinion you have of yourself."

brinty

Al Capwned wrote: »

22 years old?

I was 22 two weeks before the Nou Camp in '99.

Pups, the lot of ye....

I was 19 three weeks before it, i had a college exam the following morning
got steaming drunk went in did exam with no recollection of doing it and it was my second best mark
Think there might have been a few OLE 20 LEGEND's on the answer book Lecturer was a United supporter too so it most likely helped

brinty

MagicIRL wrote: »

You'll learn to regret that! I bet I'll show myself up before the week is out! :pac::cool:

I give ye an hour

Corvo

What has happened to this forum, eh?

Vic Vinegar

MagicIRL wrote: »

What is about adding 'lad' to the end of sentences? Is it trying to rile the other person up? As though you are the man and they the boy?

I'd say it's something like that. Very annoying imo.

Adamocovic

NeVeR wrote: »

sorry if posted already .. but just in case.

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Use Promo code perks20 at checkout

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Ahhh I forgot my SportDirect password! Thanks for the deal heads up

brinty

Corvo wrote: »

What has happened to this forum, eh?

We need something to cheer us all up

I think some gif's would help

If anyone can post a fantasy line up of gifs in the 3-5-2 formation you're the statesman of thre thread

Al Capwned

Just on the 'lad' thing....

Around where I'm from it's used a lot, and I would say almost never in a condescending sense.

I'd often answer my phone by going "Well lad!" if it was to a person I knew well....

Maximus Alexander

MagicIRL wrote: »

What is about adding 'lad' to the end of sentences? Is it trying to rile the other person up? As though you are the man and they the boy?

What are you trying to say lad boy kid son?

nicklauski

According to the tweet machine. Allegri has just come out and said Vidal wants to stay at Juve.

Soups123

redbaron_99 wrote: »

And there's no proof he'd be a good manager. Managers are usually hired on their track record, not on how good they were as players. Giggs would be a gamble.

Sure if you're all happy to gamble, then fine.

Guardiola says hello