Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

Adamocovic

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1549107/000110465914055396/a14-17635_3fwp.htm

Some easy reading for the night.

I'm afraid all I would be able to invest at the moment is around €25 and a Big Lebowski DVD, how many shares will I get for that?

keane2097

bucketybuck wrote: »

I have never said I expect LVG to assemble a league winning team immediately, and I don't think I have ever even said I wanted Vidal or Hummels, I try not to comment on individual targets. I just want the club to address the clear, obvious deficiencies in the United squad.

As I said before, if LVG thinks he can work his magic and get Tom Cleverley and Antonio Valencia playing to United standard then I believe he is in for a rude awakening.

I think that's a fair POV for sure, but I would also say it's not the only one it's reasonable to hold.

I dunno, I think it's pretty likely that LVG sees this season as a setup season of sorts, with the attitude that he wants to get the system up and running first, and then populate it with the players he decides he needs later. Like, I think it's pretty unlikely that he thinks he's getting to ECL finals with Cleverley and no defensive cover, but he's not as worried about that this year as the fans are, as unpalatable as that may be.

In terms of signings, what would you be happy with from here - two versatile defenders and a good MF or something like that?

Nolars

showing the training on mutv now

Vic Vinegar

Press conference hopefully coming up soon too!

Adamocovic

I really like what I'm hearing about VG new training structure. It sounds very organised and should show improvements on the pitch.

The camera part I found the most interesting. I was reading an article earlier how Johnny Evans was saying about VG recording the trainings with cameras and then showing players were they went wrong. Very good idea to keep players giving 100 percent and Johnny said it was helping for defensive positioning. I think it's common in some clubs but hasn't really been a feature in United before. Obviously players will work harder if they know they are constantly under the spotlight.

bmcc10

Whatsisname wrote: »

Yeah I'd consider the next United captaincy to be a bit of an important matter.

Wasn't having a dig at you, just hardly a major shock if Evans was to be named captain, It's going to be Van Persie though i feel, Van Gaal surely going to go with the tried and trusted but then again you never know with him.

bmcc10

Adamocovic wrote: »

I really like what I'm hearing about VG new training structure. It sounds very organised and should show improvements on the pitch.

The camera part I found the most interesting. I was reading an article earlier how Johnny Evans was saying about VG recording the trainings with cameras and then showing players were they went wrong. Very good idea to keep players giving 100 percent and Johnny said it was helping for defensive positioning. I think it's common in some clubs but hasn't really been a feature in United before. Obviously players will work harder if they know they are constantly under the spotlight.

Nani you have now been evicted from Big Louis house goodbye.

homerjay2005

Zico wrote: »

Are you in the fat club?

whats that?

NUTZZ

Press conference is on live now, Rooney and Van Gaal on at the minute, on MUTV.

Whatsisname

Smalling out of Madrid match. Thats the start of it now.

NUTZZ

I have to say I'm loving Van Gaals presence in these early press conferences, so different from Moyes' conferences, so confident.

Whatsisname

Think it'll take him awhile to start saying "we" instead of "Manchester United" :pac:

Vic Vinegar

He's pretty relaxed about transfers anyway. Said there's still a month left to bring in players.

NUTZZ

Whatsisname wrote: »

Think it'll take him awhile to start saying "we" instead of "Manchester United" :pac:

It actually said "we" in his first press conferences already, was delighted to hear it!

The_Kew_Tour

WE ARE SIGNING PLAYERS!!!!

WOOP WOOP:pac::pac:

Pro. F

irishfeen wrote: »

Now explain that one like a good man.. I supported Moyes because the team was inept ... With this team I will support LVG every day of the week too... Teams across Europe have been strengthening year on year while we have stood still.

irishfeen wrote: »

How is it stupid? Without quality we won't get close to winning the CL next year, we might not even get the opportunity if we don't get a few players to qualify this year.

I'm not going to jump through your hoops to explain the obvious to you any more. It's clear you want to pretend that you are too stupid to understand the flaws in your arguments when they're presented to you. So there is no point in explaining anything to you.

Loved Ronaldo's interview on mutv. He'll defo be back before he retires!

Maximus Alexander

Tomorrow there will be a story in Gazetta quoting Bild quoting Gazetta quoting BBC quoting Gazetta, saying that United are about to launch a 47 million pound bid for Vidal.

Maximus Alexander

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Tomorrow there will be a story in Gazetta quoting Bild quoting Gazetta quoting BBC quoting Gazetta, saying that United are about to launch a 47 million pound bid for Vidal.

I guess then that this is me quoting you quoting Gazetta quoting Bild quoting Gazetta quoting BBC quoting Gazetta.

Will this be enough to finally land Vidal??

ScummyMan

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

WE ARE SIGNING PLAYERS!!!!

WOOP WOOP:pac::pac:

What did he say?

The_Kew_Tour

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

WE ARE SIGNING PLAYERS!!!!

WOOP WOOP:pac::pac:

Huh? Where you getting that from Kew? All I can see from the press conference regarding new players is the following...

The Iron Tulip wrote:

"Want to see players first, honest chance. Still a month to go. We are winning everything, maybe we don't need new players"

I pray to almighty fúck for everyone's sake, not least this thread's, that the bolded part was said tongue-in-cheek!

Whatsisname

Spotted Luke Shaw favouriting this on twitter :pac:

Luke Shaw ‏@LukeShaw3 Jul 27
@DejanLovren05 congratulations mate , you deserve it! All the best. I will see you soon

Adam McKola @AdamMcKola
Oi @LukeShaw3 he's the enemy now, lad. Less of that ****e.

Mars Bar

What time is the real game tomorrow in Irish time?

Liam O

Whatsisname wrote: »

Spotted Luke Shaw favouriting this on twitter :pac:

I wonder will he feel more like he's playing his old club against Southampton or Liverpool this season?

Kirby

People joked about it at first but it is actually getting to the stage where it would have been cheaper for Liverpool to just buy Southampton as a club outright instead of paying a fortune for their players.

And Henry is a true businessman, don't think he wouldn't have done it if he could. It's a good thing there are rules against multi club ownership.

RobertKK

Mars Bar wrote: »

What time is the real game tomorrow in Irish time?

Around 9pm.
Could be 9.06pm to be exact.

newballsplease

@skysportsnews

"Louis Van Gaal thinks Manchester United may not need to make any more signings - hear from Van Gaal from 7am on #SSN"


MELTDOWN !

The_Kew_Tour

Oh dear!!

Oh god that tweet is real. The calm before the storm right now before people wake up. Surely he is just going this to not have people expecting to much and hoping to drive prices down a bit or something.

The_Kew_Tour

Ggood point.

I do thonk we will buy at least a CB

After that its touch and go.

Then again quotes to press are alwaysbit untruthful.

The_Kew_Tour

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Ggood point.

I do thonk we will buy at least a CB

After that its touch and go.

Then again quotes to press are alwaysbit untruthful.

I'd be surprised if there's any truth in that.

Another CB is needed at Utd particularly if playing a formation with 3 of them in the team this season.

Soft Falling Rain

Van Gaal is only yarning and feeding the press guff, I'd be very surprised if he actually believes that.

billyhead

rarnes1 wrote: »

I'd be surprised if there's any truth in that.

Another CB is needed at Utd particularly if playing a formation with 3 of them in the team this season.

It will be Vermalen. Not very inspiring:(

duffman13

Lads he is just going for the FutureGuy approach. In all seriousness after Eds posturing regarding signings what did he expect to happen when negotiating transfer fees? Although we have made two solid signings, I think without 2-3 more players signed, I can't see how he could consider this window a success!

adox

Woodwards chest thumping interview seems a lifetime ago already.

It's a numbers game at this stage, not even about bring top players in. Defenders are needed. As simple as that. The squad is bare at the back.

Also a midfielder is needed to cover Carricks place and should have been a priority as soon as he picked up that injury. Hell midfielders were needed even if Carrick was fit.

Tick tock tick tock. Deja vu déjà vu.

bucketybuck

Adamocovic wrote: »

Fletcher has a lot of experience and alongside Herrera I think could do well enough. Though if Carrick was fit I would have more confidence in his partnership with Herrera.

It's not as if we have a truly terrible midfield.

Yes, we do have a truly terrible midfield. In terms of what is supposed to be one of the worlds premier clubs we have an absolute disgrace of a midfield chock full of players the other clubs wouldn't have near their teams.

It is now getting into seasons/years since we were truly able to compete in the midfield area against any half-decent team, even when we were successful it was despite the likes of Carrick and Cleverley not because of them. I am astounded that anybody could be happy to enter the season relying on that collection of chuckleheads yet again, they have failed repeatedly and they will fail again.

I mean, you want to start the season with Fletcher or Carrick! They are done, counting on them this season in just insane.

keane2097 wrote: »

I dunno, I think it's pretty likely that LVG sees this season as a setup season of sorts, with the attitude that he wants to get the system up and running first, and then populate it with the players he decides he needs later. Like, I think it's pretty unlikely that he thinks he's getting to ECL finals with Cleverley and no defensive cover, but he's not as worried about that this year as the fans are, as unpalatable as that may be.

In terms of signings, what would you be happy with from here - two versatile defenders and a good MF or something like that?

Its distinctly unpalatable. For obvious reasons we won't compete in Europe but we are still not a plaything for LVG to tinker around with. He should be well able to plan long term but at the same time take the necessary steps to fix some clear and obvious problems within the squad.

Of all the talk on this board over the last year about what needed to be done to the team, I have to admit I didn't think we would reach a stage 2 weeks before the season starts where its suggested the manager wants to worry about players later.

In terms of signings I would indeed be happy with two versatile defenders, though I'd be thinking more Vertonghan quality than Vermalean. In midfield we need at least two signings, the higher quality the better.

glued

Giggs thinks Cleverley is important and doesn't want to lose 12 years of experience at the club. It's looking like Cleverley is being pushed hard by Giggs.

I think more signings will be made but not until players are sold

RVN10

Here is the link from his presser last night , I also think that the transfer comment was very tongue in cheek.


Van Gaal & Rooney Press Conference Ahead Of Real …: http://youtu.be/VX5tlzKJE5A

Hococop

quick question for anybody who bought the jersey off the united site, how long did it take for normal shipping for you and did you leave a number, I didn't leave a number for my order but if its being shipped by dhl I'm guessing I should have left my number

homerjay2005

Lol, its starting to become as close as possible to last summer all over again, taking into account the need to sign players is greater this year.

Still think theres a signing coming in the form of Vermaelen but if thats our lot its been an appaling summer once again.

The difference one top quality signing wud make to playing level is unreal so why the f*ck can we not close any deals?

Since May ive had the feeling that internally in the club they blamed Moyes for everything and there is a genuine belief that the players were not to blame, hence the lack of real action to replace them.

Kaizersoze81

homerjay2005 wrote: »

The difference one top quality signing wud make to playing level is unreal so why the f*ck can we not close any deals?

Woodward. The man is an incompetent fool when it comes to keeping his mouth shut and transfer dealings.

homerjay2005

Kaizersoze81 wrote: »

Woodward. The man is an incompetent fool when it comes to keeping his mouth shut and transfer dealings.

Careful now, the man is a king to some on here, you are not allowed slag him off.

Im starting to think the main reason for our problems at the moment are financial ones - all is not as rosey as is being portrayed and we are under pressure to reduce wage bill before signing players.

And despite what people say, the lack of champions league football is a problem. Woodward wants one big signing and may still get him but as i said a few days ago the majority of our big spending will come next summer.

For now the focus is on van gaal and the young lads getting us to top 4.

Larry Wildman

glued wrote: »

Giggs thinks Cleverley is important and doesn't want to lose 12 years of experience at the club. It's looking like Cleverley is being pushed hard by Giggs.

I think more signings will be made but not until players are sold

There is no room for sentiment in football.

Cleverley should be turfed out...he's miles off the standard that a Manchester United player should be at.

If Ray Wilkins was "the crab" for his lateral movement and passing, Cleverley is the crushed crab.

fatherted1969

Shur if Anderson is fit that'll be like a new signing

Squad is too large (sorry Anderson pun intended) at moment, i'd expect to see some exits very soon also

redzerdrog

To be fair it is going to be difficult to attract top class signings such as the likes of kroos, reus, vidal, hummels etc without the lure of champions league football and the only way to do it is by throwing shed loads of cash at them which in turn can upset the apple cart for the likes of Rooney, RVP, Mata etc if these lads are getting more money than them

edit

Or as Homerjay points out above maybe ye cant afford the type of cash it would take to tempt these players without the champions league carrot

Van.Bosch

shaw, Herrera and Vermalen will be a terrible window IMO. There seems to be deals out there but that may be subjecture. Chelsea, City & Arsenal have strengthened but we, who came 7th have not added enough. Next season will be tougher than people think with this squad.

Yes LVG will make a difference but a better first team is needed

Larry Wildman

fatherted1969 wrote: »

Shur if Anderson is fit that'll be like a new signing

If we're reduced to this, we're f..ked.

The season starts in two weeks. We're goosed with this squad.

Unearthly

Hopefully he was being sarcastic.

I need more straw

JaMarcusHustle

The real quotes:

"First I want to see the players who I have and give them an honest chance."

"We still have a month to go [before the transfer window shuts] and we are winning. Maybe we don't need other players."

It's just a sensational headline to get traffic. Some fans would genuinely prefer we sign no one so they can go into meltdown mode because they're just miserable people in general.

Van.Bosch

Larry Wildman wrote: »

If we're reduced to this, we're f..ked.

The season starts in two weeks. We're goosed with this squad.

Where do you think this squad would finish? Battle for 4th I reckon