Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

Blatter

Pro. F wrote: »

RE Vermaelen: In terms of quality I would be interested in seeing what he can do at that price. He's the type of CB van Gaal has said he wants, somebody who can carry the ball forward. And I think that Arsenal defence don't get coached or protected properly so they end up looking worse than they really are. He could improve dramatically in a better organised defence imo.

But the issue with him I see is the injuries. IIRC he has been a complete crock. For me, he would have to be cheaper when you consider all the risk involved.

Do you think playing in a back three would suit him better? More freedom to step up and bring the ball out as there's more cover? I think Vermaelen has a lot of good qualities but his positioning was always suspect imo. Maybe playing in a back three would get the best out of him.

DrPhilG

dahat wrote: »

People get so offended and bothered by the Internet forums, it really does baffle me tbh.

Why do folk get so bothered and upset by what is said (typed?)?

How dare you!

Take that back you scoundrel.

Al Capwned

Thought ye might get a laugh out of this......

irishfeen

Pro. F wrote: »

RE Vermaelen: In terms of quality I would be interested in seeing what he can do at that price. He's the type of CB van Gaal has said he wants, somebody who can carry the ball forward. And I think that Arsenal defence don't get coached or protected properly so they end up looking worse than they really are. He could improve dramatically in a better organised defence imo.

But the issue with him I see is the injuries. IIRC he has been a complete crock. For me, he would have to be cheaper when you consider all the risk involved.

I totally agree with all that!

Whatsisname

Anybody else see Ronaldo's interview with MUTV last night? he's toying with my heart

homerjay2005

IvySlayer wrote: »

I'm not that bothered by Vermaelan, he's a good squad player for LB/CB

We have enough squad players, its time to start signing top quality players and this is not a top quality signing.

Vermaelen wud be fine if there were 2 top quality players coming in, but so far this is not the case. The likelyhood is that if we sign him, thats our lot in defence and that is very very underwhelming.

I fail to see how people seem once again to be accepting second class signings and trying to make it out as a positive thing.

RobertKK

irishfeen wrote: »

Well its only 2 weeks today. First 12 games announced for TV - this might help for anyone planning on getting any subscriptions.

The Swansea/Burnley games can be got for €1 via this deal for the Setanta/BT pack - http://www.setanta.com/ie/subscribe

This post should be in the first post of the thread too.

irishfeen

If anyone doesn't have MUTV tonight for the Real match its being broadcast in HD on ServusTV for free on the 19.2e satellite (the European continent one) [11303 H 22000 2/3].

One of the easiest to pick up here in Ireland, even with the Lidl dishes.

bucketybuck

RobertKK wrote: »

This post should be in the first post of the thread too.

We are 4000 posts in, who is actually going to read the first post at this stage?

billyhead

homerjay2005 wrote: »

We have enough squad players, its time to start signing top quality players and this is not a top quality signing.

Vermaelen wud be fine if there were 2 top quality players coming in, but so far this is not the case. The likelyhood is that if we sign him, thats our lot in defence and that is very very underwhelming.

I fail to see how people seem once again to be accepting second class signings and trying to make it out as a positive thing.

Exactly. Why should we settle for an Arsenal reject? We need to sign top calibre players who go straight into the 1st team aka a Hummels or Vidal. We cannot settle for mediocre again.

brophs

irishfeen wrote: »

If anyone doesn't have MUTV tonight for the Real match its being broadcast in HD on ServusTV for free on the 19.2e satellite (the European continent one) [11303 H 22000 2/3].

One of the easiest to pick up here in Ireland, even with the Lidl dishes.

Should I be able to get this on Sky? Getting a no signal message.

RobertKK

Mars Bar wrote: »

Crap! That's 1pm here and I'll be at the l.a galaxy game.

That is a real pity. They better put on a good game for you.

billyhead

irishfeen wrote: »

If anyone doesn't have MUTV tonight for the Real match its being broadcast in HD on ServusTV for free on the 19.2e satellite (the European continent one) [11303 H 22000 2/3].

One of the easiest to pick up here in Ireland, even with the Lidl dishes.

Is that channel on FTA?

irishfeen

brophs wrote: »

Should I be able to get this on Sky? Getting a no signal message.

No lad, this is on a different satellite from the one Sky use - a satellite used for sky must be moved and a sky set top box can't be used either... but believe me its simple if you had the right gear.

RobertKK

bucketybuck wrote: »

We are 4000 posts in, who is actually going to read the first post at this stage?

The first post in the thread would be best used for references like the fantasy league and matches on TV,
Just my opinion, because if one wants to look for them in a thread it is rather pointless given it can be thousands of posts, and some of us forget when they were posted :P

Lord TSC

RobertKK wrote: »

This post should be in the first post of the thread too.

will do now.

irishfeen

billyhead wrote: »

Is that channel on FTA?

Yep Free to Air and in beautiful HD too...

Details - http://www.servustv.com/at/Medien/International-Champions-Cup13

wiz569

irishfeen wrote: »

Yep Free to Air and in beautiful HD too...

The joys of a motorised satellite setup

adox

Reminder it can be bought and streamed for €2 at http://http://unitedlive.manutd.com
Also supports airplay for Apple products so can be streamed to your tv with the right equipment.

irishfeen

adox wrote: »

Reminder it can be bought and streamed for €2 at unitedlive.manutdcom
Also supports airplay for Apple products so can be streamed to your tv with the right equipment.

Why would you pay to see an internet stream? :eek:

adox

irishfeen wrote: »

Why would you pay to see an internet stream? :eek:

Well it's legal, it's the MUTV official stream in good quality and I can bounce it to my Apple TV and watch it on the plasma.

Ed The Equalizer

Cookiemunster wrote: »

You've got to be realistic. You can't build from where Utd are to where Chelsea / City are in one transfer window. Fighting for 3rd/4th is where Utd will be even if we sign a few players between now and the end of the window.

I'm guessing you would have said similar about Liverpool last year?

Adamcp898

irishfeen wrote: »

If anyone doesn't have MUTV tonight for the Real match its being broadcast in HD on ServusTV for free on the 19.2e satellite (the European continent one) [11303 H 22000 2/3].

One of the easiest to pick up here in Ireland, even with the Lidl dishes.

If only this could be done on sky

Saucy McKetchup

Juventus director general Giuseppe Marotta has revealed they will only sell Arturo Vidal if he asks to leave


#ArturON

dahat

Saucy McKetchup wrote: »

Juventus director general Giuseppe Marotta has revealed they will only sell Arturo Vidal if he asks to leave


#ArturON

No change then really, he hasn't said if he wants to stay or go so bit of a stalemate now. Looks dead to me now.

Saucy McKetchup

dahat wrote: »

No change then really, he hasn't said if he wants to stay or go so bit of a stalemate now. Looks dead to me now.

I think somethings definitely happening now when a statement like that comes out

newballsplease

Saucy McKetchup wrote: »

I think somethings definitely happening now when a statement like that comes out

Not to get any sort of hopes up but they also signed a CM on loan for the season today. Romulo brazilian CDM.

Pro. F

Blatter wrote: »

Do you think playing in a back three would suit him better? More freedom to step up and bring the ball out as there's more cover? I think Vermaelen has a lot of good qualities but his positioning was always suspect imo. Maybe playing in a back three would get the best out of him.

I think he would definitely have more opportunity to carry the ball forward. LVG has talked about needing his CBs to do that iirc. Apparently that job of carrying the ball forward used to be a common tactic when the sweeper/man-marking back fives used to be in vogue and it makes sense (with the cover like you say). So it seems like LVG is planning on using that attacking option for when in possession with this system.

Imo, defensively they still all have to be just as good as if they were in a back four, because a lot of the time they are. My understanding of how back fives work is that there is always one of them stepping up to fill gaps in midfield, leaving a four at the back. So they all have to be able to defend properly. Plus they have to be able to defend in midfield - I don't see Vermaelen having a problem with the second part and I think he might be better at the first part than he has shown at Arsenal.

I really suspect at Arsenal that their defence isn't getting the best coaching, nor protection. There's such crazy swings in form, it seems like the players are just working it out for themselves on the pitch. So from a quality point of view (regarding the ability to defend properly when he's in the back four) I would still be interested in Vermaelen at the price, even though he has looked dodgy for long spells.

Like I say, it's the injuries that would really make me doubt the signing.

irishfeen

Lord TSC wrote: »

Will this thread see the signing of a new legend for the club :pac:

Play nice. Or else he'll be after you....




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Schedule for United's games on TV.

Do I get a few pound for that then or what

Manutd_4life

Does anyone know whether there will be a youtube live stream for the Real Madrid game tonight like there was for the inter Milan game???

Saucy McKetchup

newballsplease wrote: »

Not to get any sort of hopes up but they also signed a CM on loan for the season today. Romulo brazilian CDM.

That's exactly what you're trying to do!

Jules.Winnfield

Saucy McKetchup wrote: »

Juventus director general Giuseppe Marotta has revealed they will only sell Arturo Vidal if he asks to leave

#ArturON

Maybe Juve are doing this to force Vidal to officially hand in a transfer request. That would mean Vidal is willing to forgo any massive loyalty fee he may have in his current contract. The club already seem to be making moves to fill their midfield.

Zico

bucketybuck wrote: »

We are 4000 posts in, who is actually going to read the first post at this stage?

There's a hero out there who's read 3999 posts of nonsense thinking a day will come when 'I'll be recognised'.

MANUTD99

Pro. F wrote: »

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I really suspect at Arsenal that their defence isn't getting the best coaching, nor protection. There's such crazy swings in form, it seems like the players are just working it out for themselves on the pitch. .

Arsenal are not some Sunday league team. They qualify for the Champions League every year so they must be doing something right.

I would suspect Thomas Vermaelen is a crock and Arsène Wenger is licking his lips at getting 12 million for him

zarquon

irishfeen wrote: »

Why would you pay to see an internet stream? :eek:

In the same way that one would pay for netflix. I don't see the problem. Paid services offer superior experience to the plethora of crap free streams floating about

RobertKK

Who knows what will happen. All we can do is speculate.
United need two or three more of the right players to be near certain of a top 4 place for next season.
We want Vidal...

With tonight's game getting near, I will make this prediction...
The main thing this season is to get back into the CL and I think then major major signings will happen.
Next season if we do what we must do - a top 4 and CL place, I can see Ronaldo returning in 12 months time, a last big fee for Jorge Mendes and the last chance really for Real Madrid to get a huge fee for him.

Manutd_4life

For anyone thinking of spending money to see the Internet live stream is being foolish. There's a youtube channel called "Football Live Streams" that is showing live streams of all the top EPL teams on tour. At the moment they are showing arsenal and Benicia and they have the man utd vs Madrid game in there upcoming events list. I watched the Milan game on this youtube stream last time and I was very impressed at the quality. Just a heads up and a bit of advice

irishfeen

zarquon wrote: »

In the same way that one would pay for netflix. I don't see the problem. Paid services offer superior experience to the plethora of crap free streams floating about

Well if your living out in the sticks like some of us - it wouldn't matter if you gave the €2 or €200 because the internet so s.hite ... WTF is netflix? :pac:

dahat

Ronaldo has been suffering with Tendonitis which to me may start to effect him more as time goes on, as much as we all love him I don't know if a 30yr old or so Ronaldo with potential problems is where I want to see the club go.

Much rather see the club pay more for younger types which offer more promise with development.

Pro. F

MANUTD99 wrote: »

Arsenal are not some Sunday league team. They qualify for the Champions League every year so they must be doing something right.

Yeah, they are qualifying for the CL so there can be no problems in their coaching and set-up.

MANUTD99 wrote: »

I would suspect Thomas Vermaelen is a crock and Arsène Wenger is licking his lips at getting 12 million for him

I said twice that I would be worried about his injury record.

Adamcp898

dahat wrote: »

Ronaldo has been suffering with Tendonitis which to me may start to effect him more as time goes on, as much as we all love him I don't know if a 30yr old or so Ronaldo with potential problems is where I want to see the club go.

Much rather see the club pay more for younger types which offer more promise with development.

Nonsense, to sing ''Viva Ronaldo'' is reason enough alone :pac:

adox

Manutd_4life wrote: »

For anyone thinking of spending money to see the Internet live stream is being foolish. There's a youtube channel called "Football Live Streams" that is showing live streams of all the top EPL teams on tour. At the moment they are showing arsenal and Benicia and they have the man utd vs Madrid game in there upcoming events list. I watched the Milan game on this youtube stream last time and I was very impressed at the quality. Just a heads up and a bit of advice

Just had a look there at the Arsenal game. Firstly the commentary isn't in English.

Secondly the quality is pretty ****e. I'd hate to imagine what it would look like if I threw it on to my plasma. It's poor as it is on an ipad screen.

So yep, I'll continue being foolish and splash out the whole €5 I spent for all the Utd pre season tour games from a legal source.

How Soon Is Now

Lads just get hold of xbmc and set it up correctly will be sorted.

dahat

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Lads just get hold of xbmc and set it up correctly will be sorted.

Xbmc drove me bonkers when I tried installing it, not too bad tech wise but Xbmc broke me.

How Soon Is Now

dahat wrote: »

Xbmc drove me bonkers when I tried installing it, not too bad tech wise but Xbmc broke me.

If u know the right add on s and repo s to install it's handy enough. I dunno how much detail I can go into on here about it though .

Copper_pipe

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

If u know the right add on s and repo s to install it's handy enough. I dunno how much detail I can go into on here about it though .

Can you PM the names of such addons please

adox

Yep XBMC I always found laggy and a bit of a pain in the hole. Sources regularly stopped working, never worked or had to be constantly tweaked.


Seriously lads, we aren't talking about a years sub for Sky Sports here. We are talking €2 for an official feed.

dahat

I paid the sub for the games but the season is ahead so need solutions.

Decided to go the Winwick route myself even if the best streams are 4/5 mind behind for a quality stream.

Lord TSC

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

If u know the right add on s and repo s to install it's handy enough. I dunno how much detail I can go into on here about it though .

If you're not sure if it's legal, end the discussion right now.

As is, I'll be checking the legality cause you should all know better than to start talking about legally-grey streams. There's a link to an offical stream to pay for, and after that, I'd be thinking that "free" ones are dodgy ground, so avoid it


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Anyway, back on topic...from the United twitter account...

It's Inter v Roma at 18:00 BST. If that game's not decided in 90 mins, we'll reach the ICC final before we kick off vs Real Madrid. #mutour

Madrid boss ruled Ronaldo out of today's game, but @Cristiano is keen to feature. "I want to play a little bit... it’s my ex-club." #mutour

How Soon Is Now

Gimme 5mins I'll find all right stuff and let you s know.