Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 13/8

chupacabra

There was a great thread here a while back that had a bunch of updated crests for premier league clubs done in a modern clean style. They looked fantastic. Can't be arsed to go looking

Nalz

RobertKK wrote: »

LVG said in the press conference that Fellaini, Januzaj and RVP are still to return to the team. They all got extended holidays due to the world cup.

MagicIRL wrote: »

I think Wilson has a broken arm or something.

What about Anderson, Powell, Lawerence and Valera?

DM_7

Trilla wrote: »

What about Anderson, Powell, Lawerence and Valera?

Probably all players Van Gaal feels he doesn't need to watch as they are not in the running for game time this season.

Anderson is finished at United. Others are reserves who will be loaned out if they are to get first team football.

ElChe32

Anderson is finished, and I think there was some statement from the Club saying he was injured after people questioned his absence from the tour squad.

Mars Bar

I thought Powell picked up an injury?

Amirani

Forgot that Anderson had only gone to Fiorentina on loan. Any idea how he got on there?

duffman13

Diego Simeone wrote: »

Forgot that Anderson had only gone to Fiorentina on loan. Any idea how he got on there?

Not very well, played a couple of games and then was out in the cold, thought he got injured aswell but not sure.

Amirani

duffman13 wrote: »

Not very well, played a couple of games and then was out in the cold, thought he got injured aswell but not sure.

I see he played just 280 minutes for them according to Soccerway. Seems like it.

duffman13

Diego Simeone wrote: »

I see he played just 280 minutes for them according to Soccerway. Seems like it.

Ye I seen him play one game and he was hooked after about 50 mins, not great, think he played 5 or 6 games

The Iron Tulip

Another big call from LVG; He is choosing to leave RVP out of the match vs Valencia and also the first P.L. game of the season vs Swansea. Understandable is his reasoning...

The Iron Tulip wrote:

“When a player has been on holiday for three weeks they have to train,” Van Gaal said. “I’m sorry but players have to train and Robin needs a full training regime behind him before he can play again.


“People can criticise me for my decision but I know what to do with players who have had three weeks’ holiday. Hopefully, Robin will get his fitness back very fast but, for now, he won’t play.


“Robin wants to play every game, I know that, but so do the other 30 players in the squad.”

Full article from The Guardian

MagicMarker

I don't consider that a big call, RVP hasn't had a pre-season so he won't be match fit. More like a common sense call.

DM_7

MagicMarker wrote: »

I don't consider that a big call, RVP hasn't had a pre-season so he won't be match fit. More like a common sense call.

He who some don't want named lowered the bar so it makes it look like a big call

MagicMarker

MagicMarker wrote: »

I don't consider that a big call, RVP hasn't had a pre-season so he won't be match fit. More like a common sense call.

I fully agree that it is the right thing to do and I'm not one bit worried. I just like LVG's common sense approach, in not playing a big player just because he has him available and recognising that RVP will have some catching up to do in terms of game mentality as well as fitness.

GSPfan

DM-ICE wrote: »

He who some don't want named lowered the bar so it makes it look like a big call

I appreciate it.

Son Of A Vidic

FutureGuy wrote: »

Agreed. I'm too excited about the team to even think about last year. You could see many of the players were going against their instinct under Moyes but that's done with now.

Onwards and upwards.

Amen to that.

FutureGuy

Robson99 wrote: »

There is no comparison between young and Shaw. Young is an average winger who has looked good in a few meaningless friendlies. Shaw is an international attack minded fullback who was one of the best players in the pl last year. We are cooked if Young is playing ahead of Shaw when the season starts

No. No we are not.

yermandan

Adamocovic wrote: »

When's the deadline to enter?

Friday week at noon my man

bucketybuck

stankratz wrote: »

Another big call from LVG

Hardly a big call though is it, if there is one area of the field we are well stocked it is the forward line.

MagicIRL

Do yourselves a big favour and go and read the United v Liverpool thread.

You can taste the fear. #OurYear

Adamocovic

MagicIRL wrote: »

Do yourselves a big favour and go and read the United v Liverpool thread.

You can taste the fear. #OurYear

I really don't understand how fans from both teams are calling it meaningless and say they don't care about the result or performance. Surely you would want to see your team continue to do well this close to the start of the league.

No doubt the same fans will be boasting if their team wins!

TheFullDuck

Van Persie might be worth a bet for top goal scorer... with a manager that knows how to manage his training schedule and not just run him into the ground we could see the form from the 12/13 season.

agh I had typed this out then checked the odds and he's joint favourite with aguero at 9/2. not exactly value

MagicIRL

Adamocovic wrote: »

I really don't understand how fans from both teams are calling it meaningless and say they don't care about the result or performance. Surely you would want to see your team continue to do well this close to the start of the league.

No doubt the same fans will be boasting if their team wins!

I'm loving it. I'll be banned during it too. The joy of winding people up is just too good.

I've enjoyed watching all the preseason games so far.

Adamocovic

TheFullDuck wrote: »

Van Persie might be worth a bet for top goal scorer... with a manager that knows how to manage his training schedule and not just run him into the ground we could see the form from the 12/13 season.

agh I had typed this out then checked the odds and he's joint favourite with aguero at 9/2. not exactly value

I think two season ago I came back from a birthday party hammered and stuck €30 euro on Giroud to be top scorer! That birthday is coming up again so this time I'll try remember to log out of my PP or at least pick someone decent ha!

How Soon Is Now

So did Vidal travel with Juve in the end ? I assume seeing as theres been nothing said the last few days its gone off the boil.

billyhead

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

So did Vidal travel with Juve in the end ? I assume seeing as theres been nothing said the last few days its gone off the boil.

A tweet was send from an Italian journalist that said he did not travel yet but will go over when they play in Australia;)

Vinz Mesrine

Adamocovic wrote: »

I really don't understand how fans from both teams are calling it meaningless and say they don't care about the result or performance. Surely you would want to see your team continue to do well this close to the start of the league.

No doubt the same fans will be boasting if their team wins!

How many of the players who start the game from both teams will start the first league game? I'm guessing each manager will make at least 9 changes. It's a friendly, no different to a runout against a LOI team. It's for fitness and fitness only, results don't matter and never do in pre season.

irishfeen

In all honestly anyone expecting a signing this week?

J. Marston

irishfeen wrote: »

In all honestly anyone expecting a signing this week?

I am. I just hope it isn't Vermaelen.

irishfeen

J. Marston wrote: »

I am. I just hope it isn't Vermaelen.

I think I read today that Wenger said that any possible Vermaelen move away was along way off yet - tbh if he wanted to leave you would think that Wenger would publicly call him out on the matter in front of Arsenal fans.

yermandan

Vidal, LVG will want to be back in Manchester for the unveiling etc. That's what I'm expecting!

irishfeen

yermandan wrote: »

Vidal, LVG will want to be back in Manchester for the unveiling etc. That's what I'm expecting!

I pray that your right Dan ...

EuropeanSon

irishfeen wrote: »

I think I read today that Wenger said that any possible Vermaelen move away was along way off yet - tbh if he wanted to leave you would think that Wenger would publicly call him out on the matter in front of Arsenal fans.

I don't think Wenger or Arsenal fans particularly care if he leaves, there'd be no hard feelings here. The man wants to play, and won't do that at Arsenal where he's firmly 3rd choice. It's understandable. "Calling him out" isn't necessary.

Not that it won't be a pain - having limited backup options at CB is not good, obviously. But he's not going to be irreplaceable.

irishfeen

EuropeanSon wrote: »

I don't think Wenger or Arsenal fans particularly care if he leaves, there'd be no hard feelings here. The man wants to play, and won't do that at Arsenal where he's firmly 3rd choice. It's understandable. "Calling him out" isn't necessary.

Not that it won't be a pain - having limited backup options at CB is not good, obviously. But he's not going to be irreplaceable.

Aye possibly so, as long as he isn't too much I wouldn't be against him at United as he would be good backup in a long season.

RayCun

I think we should be aiming higher than Arsenal's third choiceCB

Lord TSC

RayCun wrote: »

I think we should be aiming higher than Arsenal's third choiceCB

I never get hung up on stuff like that tbh. Just because a player doesn't fit into one team doesn't mean there isn't a role he could play in an other. Mata, for instance, fell away down the pecking order at Chelsea yet still is hugely vital to us....

Vinz Mesrine

RayCun wrote: »

I think we should be aiming higher than Arsenal's third choiceCB

I see what you're trying to say but Vermaelen would be first choice at United straight away.

irishfeen

RayCun wrote: »

I think we should be aiming higher than Arsenal's third choiceCB

Ah yeah but as a squad player and a backup he would be fine if he was cheap

Adamcp898

Lord TSC wrote: »

I never get hung up on stuff like that tbh. Just because a player doesn't fit into one team doesn't mean there isn't a role he could play in an other. Mata, for instance, fell away down the pecking order at Chelsea yet still is hugely vital to us....

Mata didn't have the same bad performances for Chelsea that Vermaelen has had for Arsenal. He was very much the casualty of a system and role change, Vermaelen is the casualty of injury, poor form, and dare I say incapability.

dahat

J. Marston wrote: »

I am. I just hope it isn't Vermaelen.

Talk around The Emirates today had him off to barca this week. Twitter talk from the Emirates.

Lord TSC

Twitter talk that Fellaini is heading to Italy tomorrow to confirm the loan to Napoli.

irishfeen

Lord TSC wrote: »

Twitter talk that Fellaini is heading to Italy tomorrow to confirm the loan to Napoli.

Possibly a good thing in relation to anyone coming in,

irishgoldberg

Lord TSC wrote: »

Twitter talk that Fellaini is heading to Italy tomorrow to confirm the loan to Napoli.

as long as he aint around Old Trafford!!!!

Headshot

Ill be delighted to see Fell gone, no point having him. He's not going to help our CM issues

LostBoy101

Thank the lord if he is not near Old Trafford this season.

MagicMarker

Headshot wrote: »

Ill be delighted to see Fell gone, no point having him. He's not going to help our CM issues

Losing a CM isn't going to help either.

The only way Fellaini going on lone doesn't matter is if we're bringing in a CM. Otherwise it just doesn't really make sense.

MagicIRL

MagicMarker wrote: »

Losing a CM isn't going to help either.

The only way Fellaini going on lone doesn't matter is if we're bringing in a CM. Otherwise it just doesn't really make sense.

This 100%. There's just no way a club can sell two CBs, a "CM" and a LB and not bring in replacements.

Headshot

MagicMarker wrote: »

Losing a CM isn't going to help either.

The only way Fellaini going on lone doesn't matter is if we're bringing in a CM. Otherwise it just doesn't really make sense.

I dont really see him as a CM tbh, more of a no 10

Rayne Wooney

Fellaini adds at least as much as Cleverley to the team


If he is going to leave midfield signings are surely imminent

Lord TSC

Hoping it's the start of a fun week transfer wise. We were due back if not for the final tomorrow, right?mso hopefully this kick starts the transfers in and out.

J. Marston

Lord TSC wrote: »

Hoping it's the start of a fun week transfer wise. We were due back if not for the final tomorrow, right?mso hopefully this kick starts the transfers in and out.

"Watch this space."