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Fiancé has an issue with my salary

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 457 ✭✭Matteroffact


    Neyite wrote: »
    I think you didnt read the full thread, there has been massive developments.

    You are right I didn't. Message now deleted, thanks.


  • Administrators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,927 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Toots


    OP my heart just sank reading your post today, I was really really hoping we'd be wrong about the gambling, but as rough as it is, it's much better that you've found out. Don't feel bad about looking at his laptop, this is one of the few cases where looking at a partner's laptop is warranted.

    I agree that you need to confront him with what you've found, but not yet!

    Firstly, speak to GamAnon and get some advice from them.

    Secondly, take a day off work (an annual leave day but tell him you're sick, or actually take a sickie) and while he's gone, go through the house and find his bank statements. The reason I'm saying this is that he may be (probably is) using more than one gaming site. If you confront him about the account you found, he may come clean about it, but keep quiet about any other sites he's a member of. You need to find out as much as you can on your own, because you can be damn sure he won't tell you anything other than what you've already discovered. He'll swear up and down that that's all of it.

    Thirdly, see your GP and ask them to recommend a good counsellor/therapist for you, who specialises in addiction. Most of all during this time you need to look after yourself, it's going to be unbelievably difficult and stressful. Your self esteem has already taken a pounding following your RTA and combine that with how he's been chipping away at you over the years, and the inevitable blame etc you'll be getting when this all comes out, you need to have a good support system in place. (and he will blame you, he will say horrible things to you, that's what addicts do when they get found out) As Big Bag of Chips said about telling one friend, you need to have somebody to talk to about all of this, but also I think you need someone to help with your self esteem and help you realise that you are a wonderful person. Have at least one session with a counsellor to prepare before you confront him and I'd book a session for the day after your planned confrontation because your head will be all over the place.

    In the meantime, do what I said about cutting him off. Don't give him any more money. Buy in nice food for him to make lunches with, if he is able to take public transport then buy him a bus/rail ticket. DO NOT give him money for lunch or travel because he'll just spend it on gambling. Don't let on that you know anything yet, otherwise he'll go to even greater lengths to keep it from you. You could even bring a packed lunch to work yourself for a few days to lend to the pretense that you're trying to save super hard so you can have a house almost mortgage free before you get married. It's going to be very very very hard, but OP at least you know and that's important. Best of luck, I hope everything works out in whatever way is best for you.


  • Administrators Posts: 14,396 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    One thing to keep in mind though is that none of this means he doesn't love you. He has been lying to you all this time because he DOES love you.

    He started off in a small bit of bother, but didn't tell you because "he could sort it out", so no need to worry you... Then the problem got bigger, and so did the lies to cover it up, until "he could sort it out". He still probably thinks he has this under control and will be able to sort it out.

    That is why he will continue to lie to you. He will not want to worry you with the extent of it, so will tell you a fraction of it, at first.

    You need to break through that with him. That is why GamAnon would be invaluable to you.

    In the meantime he will, as others have said, say horrible things to you. He might threaten to walk out. He will threaten to "expose" you to all his family etc... All to stop you digging further and finding out more. Because he will be ashamed, embarrassed and won't want to worry you with the extent of it all.

    As I mentioned you will need a lot of personal inner strength to weather this storm. It's going to drain you, and him. But coming out the other side is entirely possible.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 225 ✭✭Twas Not


    How much is involved ? Hundreds per month?


  • Registered Users Posts: 17 greenieted


    Hi OP
    sorry for the developments that have happened. If it were me I would get all the evidence you need from his laptop but don't use it unless you have to. Try all ways to get him to open up to you himself first but at least you will have the evidence to confront him with as a last resort. If you mention it to him too early he will change passwords, delete evidence etc.

    Your idea of a meeting about finances sounds like a good starting point. If it doesn't go to plan suggest going to see a financial advisor-tell him you want to start saving towards the wedding or buying a house or something and you want advice on ways to tighten your budget. First thing advisor will do is get you each to list your expenses for the month.

    Lastly do not feel bad that you didn't see this and do not feel that it is any reflection on how he feels towards you. Gambling is a horrific addiction-just as bad as alcohol or any other addiction. It gets a grip of a person and they just think one more bet and I'll be in the money but it never works out that way so the viscous cycle continues. My brother became addicted to poker machines in his late teens. My parents were oblivious for years. They were good parents, they loved him and he loved them but he got into a bad habit which turned into an addiction. My brother was a great brother and is a great man and great husband and father to his children now in his late thirties but at his lowest point he stole my Confirmation money to gamble with!! It completely takes a person over, consumes them and changes their personality.

    Your fiance needs help-professional help and then you both probably need couples counselling. You are in for a long hard road and he will, as another poster said, do everything he can to deflect attention away from his problem. He will blame you and make you feel guilty. Let this wash over you, stick by him and but persist and don't give in. Hopefully he will thank you in the end and you will get back the man you fell in love with but it will be long and it will be hard. Good luck !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,247 ✭✭✭Tigger99


    I'd be worried about what happens when you stop subsidising him. Does he have access to your Internet banking or know your pin codes for cards etc? He's an addict
    When you cut him off will he get access to your money in more sneaky ways, like stealing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,655 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    Can I remind posters that requesting PM's from the OP is forbidden, as per the reasons laid out in the forum charter.

    Regards,
    Mike


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭ivytwine


    I fully intended on bowing out of this thread yesterday however on reflection a lot of posters have been exceptionally helpful and I am utterly grateful for their contributions which have alerted me to things which I can only deal with at my own pace.

    I really am disheartened by the contributions dismissing my efforts to come to terms with this in a very short-space of time whilst I am openly having small discussions and trying to investigate these things whilst also dealing with my own emotional overload etc. I am trying to make good choices here so please, I would ask kindly for posters to appreciate this.

    Last night I stayed up to watch the end of a movie after he had gone to bed and I (for the first time in my life) decided to open his laptop. His gaming account was logged in and open and I found myself looking at his profile and transaction history. There are no words to describe how horrible and malicious I felt checking up on him and honestly, I'm even more distraught by what I found. I am ashamed and embarrassed for being so oblivious but yes, there's a lot more money moving around the betting account than I have been led to believe....in fact, about twice what I would have even considered to be a problem.

    I went to bed and didn't even want to touch him, I feel sad for him if he has this problem but also, I feel quite numb.

    Any advice or opinions on how I should tackle this will be greatly recieved. I have not yet said this too him, I'd rather he didn't know I went on to his laptop so if there's a way I could coax it out of him it would be better. I'd rather help him than lose him but at the same time, today, I'm not even sure who he is. Sorry if this sounds very dramatic it's just not the outcome I expected. If anything on some level I was hoping looking at his account would set my mind at ease.

    Again I have not read all the replies, so if it's been mentioned previously apologies.

    In my job, we can't discuss accounts with third parties for obvious reasons. However we do have procedures in place if a person contacts worried about a loved one.

    Please contact GamAnon, or ring his betting company for advice. It would depend on who you get (like all call centres) but my own company in fairness takes it extremely seriously.

    If you talk to him and he admits it's a problem, it literally takes us under 5 mins to shut his account permanently. So don't be afraid to come to a betting company about this. I always note the tone of relief on the phone whenever a customer shuts down the account. It could be one of the most liberating things he'll ever do.

    And from the other side of the equation, I really am sorry you and your partner are going through this x


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,382 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    My plan - for now, unless I'm advised against by a professional is to have a formal finance meeting tonight and I will take out my bank statements and will ask him to do the same. My efforts will be with a plan to make sure he makes it to the end of the month - this will be in response to his refusal re the joint account suggested on Tuesday.

    When he refuses to produce his statements, which I assume he will, I will ask him to log in to online banking. No doubt he'll have forgotten his password. I'll ask him to phone his bank and reset his online banking. I believe this is a 24 hour service although he may need to wait until after the weekend. I hope not, I don't think I can keep this in all weekend. I know I wont be my usual self.

    I would like to help him through this but I don't know what's ahead. Is it possible he's not addicted? He plays every night I think, even on holiday he's played on his phone. I know, I am so stupid to believe it was just €10 a week but I was equating it to a play station and thought I was lucky he wasn't forcing me to watch football...

    Help :(

    From what you've said OP, I very much doubt that he's not addicted. I know that you would like that to be the case, but if you look at the amount of money he is spending on it, and how cagey is he being about where his money goes, and the fact that he told you that the games that don't involve gambling aren't as much fun, I would say that he is addicted.

    If he's playing every night and on holiday then it is a problem. And remember that's only what you can see. If he was playing it on his phone on holiday he could easily be playing on his phone while he's at work/not with you.

    Don't beat yourself up about it, lots of people hide their addictions, and don't want to face to up to reality. This isn't something you could have stopped and it's something you were unlikely to notice until you gave proper attention to your finances which is why you came on here in the first place.

    You are probably right, he will want to avoid you seeing his bank statements etc. He might give you a little more information to get you to back off, and he might throw out a few more nasty digs at you. Remember you are not at fault here. Just keep gathering information in whatever way you can until you can get professional advice.

    Do not go ahead with the joint bank account for savings/bills, it will be wiped out by him in no time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    So, just to give an update as it's been a pretty horrendous weekend. I attempted to broach the issue of finances on Friday evening. We'd opted to both stay in as we haven't in a while. I spoke to an old work colleague in confidence who had a similar issue with her partner a few years back and she has been incredibly supportive. We are not that close these days which has helped me to be completely honest in a not worried about being judged kind if way.

    So, as per her advice I approached this in a very (non-typical) and assertive way. I produced as many bank statements as I could and highlighted all the non-essential transactions -coffees, clothes, cinema etc. I calculated all the money I had spent that I didn't need too and when I had finished I pointed out to him that I found it really exciting thinking about how easy it would be to save. I said "I've set myself a target, but it's based on you getting through the month ok, so you probably need to do this more than me!!" I asked him to grab his statements and he said he doesn't keep them. I said I was learning a lot about where I'm spending my money and I should be able to get away with spending way less and pointed out that I think it would be great for us to pinpoint where he's falling down. I said "log in online there and we can go through it.

    He went to the loo and while he was at it I believe now that he disconnected the wifi box.... Although I didn't cop this at first. So, he couldn't get online with his laptop and the 3G is terrible where we live. I was frustrated by now. So I told him to make a list and instead of just doing this he made jokes about how I was obsessed with money. I said once, very firmly, that I want to help him, it's not fair on either if us that his budgeting makes it impossible to plan or save or do anything.

    I then had to listen to ten minutes about how I am selfish and all I care about is money. In these situations I generally apologise to make it stop. I promised myself not to do that and just said that I wasn't the one with the problem, he is. Then I very impulsively said that I was going out for an hour and when I got back I wanted a list of where his 2600 goes by the middle of the month or I'd be asking some questions and I walked out and literally drove around feeling totally numb for 90 minutes. It worried me that I wasn't upset but I texted my old work colleague who reassured me that I had done the right thing.

    When I got back he wasn't there, no notes, no explanation, nothing. He got home at 5am, which would not be typical for him at all and he tried to talk to me but I just ignored him. I didn't want to communicate at that point. I got up at 7, left at 8 and spent the day basically by myself googling gambling stuff on my phone. He didn't try to call or even text. Last night he said he didn't want to fight with me but told me that I'm not his mother and have no right to dictate to him how to spend his money. I said "it's my money too".

    He then said he was upset with me for trying to pick fights and I said I want to fix the situation. He said our wages are disproportionate right now and he's doing his best and that I put pressure in him to keep up with me. Neither one if us appears to be able to come up with one example of this.

    So. I just said I was going to stay with my parents for a few days and that I have a fair idea of what's been going on, when he's ready to talk I'll be ready to listen and no matter what's going on I will understand as long as he us willing to try rectify things. He said I am ridiculous and a drama queen and if I left that word be the end if everything and after all we've been through etc. I just said I needed him to be honest with me. I can't believe I stayed so calm and I had no emotion at all. I knew he was lying to my face and in that moment I hated him.

    I packed a few things and he watched. Said nothing only vicious mumbles under his breath that I wouldn't repeat. I told my parents and they have been great but I feel like I have betrayed our relationship by telling them in a way, I just needed to talk about it.

    I've heard nothing from him but he's been very active on Facebook with his friends today, seemed to be having a grand old time while I'm here, in my parents house trying to work out what the hell is going on.

    He doesn't seem upset that I am gone but he wouldn't be the most emotional person at the best of times. I'll need to return tomorrow as all my work clothes are at the apartment. I'm a bit lost, very confused, and I've no idea what to do next.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    TBH, this guy is past the point of you being able to help him. The only one who can help him is HIM. Right now he can't even admit that he has a problem.

    At this point you really do need to look after yourself, because he will drag you down with you. You are right to move out for a bit, but tbh I think you need to move out permanently. He needs time to admit he has a problem and get the help he needs, you should not even consider going back to him until he starts that process.

    IF he continues to deny that there's any problem, then you need to prepare yourself for the fact that the relationship is over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,247 ✭✭✭Tigger99


    Op that took a lot of guts and strength. I'm sorry he reacted like that but am so glad that you have someone you has been through this. I think you did exactly the right thing. Some time away from that atmosphere is needed to give you a bit more of a clear head. Mind yourself xx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,382 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    Well done OP, that took a lot of strength and effort to stick to your guns and not give in and give up the fight.

    I don't think he will change or you won't see a change until he hits rock bottom and he will have to do that by himself, even if he realises that he has a gambling problem, he doesn't realise the full extent of it yet because he's had your financial support for a long time.

    If it does take you moving to your parents for a while and letting him try to manage on his own wage without your financial input to see what he is doing to himself and your relationship, it might have to come to that.

    It is great that you have the support of an understanding friend and your parents. Don't feel like you've betrayed your relationship by talking to your parents. You need support and they are there for you. He is the one betraying your relationship by lying to your face. Stay strong on this, you are not at fault.

    You tackled the problem in the best way possible without once mentioning the gambling and he behaved exactly as predicted by posters here who are experienced with gambling addicts in that he continued to lie and make excuses and then turn it around saying he was upset and all the fighting was your fault, so at least you know exactly what you are dealing with, even if you don't the extent of his gambling, and however much it hurts you know that he is lying to you and you can take your next steps without doubt in your mind.

    He might actually lay low for a while and not want to reconcile, he might try and tap some of those friends he was in contact with on FB for money now that you as a source are currently cut off. He might try and reconcile if he's not having any luck elsewhere. That is when you'll need to be strong OP. Unfortunately for you currently feeding his gambling addiction is more important that his relationship.

    You've been through a lot in the last couple of weeks, look after yourself and take the support where you can get it. Confronting him and standing up for yourself must have been hard, but now that you've done it you'll be able to do it again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    Sometimes when you don't know what to do about a problem, the best thing to do is to do nothing.

    So maybe now is one of those "do nothing" times - you cannot do anything about his problem anyway.

    So carry on with your life as normal, but from your parents house and without contacting him.

    Of course he's out today, pretending to have fun. It's easier to keep busy than to think about your flaws.

    Is there anybody you could keep busy with - not necessarily chatting with but a movie, bowling, gym buddy?


  • Administrators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,927 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Toots


    OP do you think that if he doesn't make any efforts to contact you, or acknowledge that there's a problem that you will stay with him?

    I'd say that if he hasn't contacted you by the end of the week then you should have it out with him and tell him you know about the gambling. Oh, and while you're not living in the apartment then I wouldn't even think about paying the bills. See how long he lasts without you bailing him out.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,673 ✭✭✭Stavro Mueller


    Also it might be worth getting anything of value out of there just in case he sells them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭tara73


    OP, first of all very, very well done in how you dealt with the matter and how calm you stayed during the conversations. not sure I could've done that.
    very important to your favour, you gave him the chance to come clear to you, but he acted in a nasty way like true addiccts do. lying and doing everything to cover things up. to disconnect the wifi is just so low and shows the level at which he's already operating..

    as you ask for advice how to go on and deal with it, I would like to give you my point of view, surely it's up to you how you proceed or which way you follow.

    at this point I would tell him you're pretty sure he's spending his money on online gambling. I actually wouldn't tell him you snooped on his laptop because if you tell him, he will concentrate on that only and will shift the conversation from the real thing to you being the nasty person snooping in his stuff.
    just tell him he mentioned online games before, he doesn't has any money leftin the middle of the month, so where is his salary of 2600 going? you're wondering about it for a while now..
    tell him you want to know where his money is going and for that you need to see his bank statements. you were sponsoring him for xxx amount of time and you're not willing to do that anymore and at this point you want to know where your money was being spent at all the time. he has a decent salary and many people survive on much less and it doesn't has absolutely anything to do whatever you earn.
    and yes, at this point, I would also threaten him if he doesn't show you the statements you considering walking out on the relationship. this situation needs an ultimatum. it's also necessary cause it will give you a feeling how much you're worth to him.
    sorry to be that blunt but posters said it here before and I strongly believe it also, you're just his cash cow. nothing more. it's pretty obvious as he didn't make any effort to get in contact when you moved out for the weekend. my guess is his back up is always his mammy or family. from what you told, the family has money,mammy or whoever will be there for him and with the right lies he'll get the money from her. and he knows that. otherwise he would be more worried about loosing you and he doesn't seem to.

    I don't know anything about your rental situation. are you the main tenant in the contract or are you both? I'm asking because after such a conversation it could be pretty hard to still live together. If you are the one who rents the property, he should move out. but I know things are not that easy and what I get from him he wouldn't do that.
    so before you have this conversation and ultimatum I would ask myself if I could live with him so close together if things escalate. I think I couldn't although if you're the main tenant you have every right to stay in your place! but I would make sure I have a place to go if I couldn't handle it anymore. could you stay at your parents again or at a close friend?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,365 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    I feel for you OP. It must be tough seeing him on Facebook out and about like he hasn't a care in he world. By not even contacting you he has shown how much he cares about your relationship. I'm sure he expects you to cave and contact him, well done for being so strong. He must be raging that his gaslighting tactics didn't work this time. He will probably be in touch again when he runs out of money though.

    I think you are doing amazingly. Stick to your guns and if he still refuses to discuss anything then you should ask him to leave the apartment. Sounds like he has a good way to go yet before he even admits to having a problem. Don't let him drag you down with him. Obviously, it is incredibly hard to walk away from a relationship but by the sounds of it you have a great family and good friends who will support you.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 225 ✭✭Twas Not


    So, just to give an update as it's been a pretty horrendous weekend. I attempted to broach the issue of finances on Friday evening. We'd opted to both stay in as we haven't in a while. I spoke to an old work colleague in confidence who had a similar issue with her partner a few years back and she has been incredibly supportive. We are not that close these days which has helped me to be completely honest in a not worried about being judged kind if way.

    So, as per her advice I approached this in a very (non-typical) and assertive way. I produced as many bank statements as I could and highlighted all the non-essential transactions -coffees, clothes, cinema etc. I calculated all the money I had spent that I didn't need too and when I had finished I pointed out to him that I found it really exciting thinking about how easy it would be to save. I said "I've set myself a target, but it's based on you getting through the month ok, so you probably need to do this more than me!!" I asked him to grab his statements and he said he doesn't keep them. I said I was learning a lot about where I'm spending my money and I should be able to get away with spending way less and pointed out that I think it would be great for us to pinpoint where he's falling down. I said "log in online there and we can go through it.

    He went to the loo and while he was at it I believe now that he disconnected the wifi box.... Although I didn't cop this at first. So, he couldn't get online with his laptop and the 3G is terrible where we live. I was frustrated by now. So I told him to make a list and instead of just doing this he made jokes about how I was obsessed with money. I said once, very firmly, that I want to help him, it's not fair on either if us that his budgeting makes it impossible to plan or save or do anything.

    I then had to listen to ten minutes about how I am selfish and all I care about is money. In these situations I generally apologise to make it stop. I promised myself not to do that and just said that I wasn't the one with the problem, he is. Then I very impulsively said that I was going out for an hour and when I got back I wanted a list of where his 2600 goes by the middle of the month or I'd be asking some questions and I walked out and literally drove around feeling totally numb for 90 minutes. It worried me that I wasn't upset but I texted my old work colleague who reassured me that I had done the right thing.

    When I got back he wasn't there, no notes, no explanation, nothing. He got home at 5am, which would not be typical for him at all and he tried to talk to me but I just ignored him. I didn't want to communicate at that point. I got up at 7, left at 8 and spent the day basically by myself googling gambling stuff on my phone. He didn't try to call or even text. Last night he said he didn't want to fight with me but told me that I'm not his mother and have no right to dictate to him how to spend his money. I said "it's my money too".

    He then said he was upset with me for trying to pick fights and I said I want to fix the situation. He said our wages are disproportionate right now and he's doing his best and that I put pressure in him to keep up with me. Neither one if us appears to be able to come up with one example of this.

    So. I just said I was going to stay with my parents for a few days and that I have a fair idea of what's been going on, when he's ready to talk I'll be ready to listen and no matter what's going on I will understand as long as he us willing to try rectify things. He said I am ridiculous and a drama queen and if I left that word be the end if everything and after all we've been through etc. I just said I needed him to be honest with me. I can't believe I stayed so calm and I had no emotion at all. I knew he was lying to my face and in that moment I hated him.

    I packed a few things and he watched. Said nothing only vicious mumbles under his breath that I wouldn't repeat. I told my parents and they have been great but I feel like I have betrayed our relationship by telling them in a way, I just needed to talk about it.

    I've heard nothing from him but he's been very active on Facebook with his friends today, seemed to be having a grand old time while I'm here, in my parents house trying to work out what the hell is going on.

    He doesn't seem upset that I am gone but he wouldn't be the most emotional person at the best of times. I'll need to return tomorrow as all my work clothes are at the apartment. I'm a bit lost, very confused, and I've no idea what to do next.

    Hang on ! Have you yet to tell him you know about his gambling ???

    If not all your efforts are pussy footing around and skirting the issue and fairly pointless. He is a devious gambler eg disconnecting the wifi ! He with play you for a fool. Tell him you know he is gambling and you know how much and how often.

    What you have done is back him into a situation where he becomes more and more desparate to cover up gambling. Trying to keep you from knowing what you already discovered. It's a silly game you have joined him in playing.

    Now your trying to interpret his facebook activity for clues ? You will drive yourself demented !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,365 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Twas Not wrote: »
    Hang on ! Have you yet to tell him you know about his gambling ???

    If not all your efforts are pussy footing around and skirting the issue and fairly pointless. He is a devious gambler eg disconnecting the wifi ! He with play you for a fool. Tell him you know he is gambling and you know how much and how often.

    I would say don't tell him she knows about it. He will only make it all about her and what a terrible person she is for looking at his laptop.

    He already has form for this kind of behavior:
    So I told him to make a list and instead of just doing this he made jokes about how I was obsessed with money.

    I then had to listen to ten minutes about how I am selfish and all I care about is money. In these situations I generally apologise to make it stop.
    He then said he was upset with me for trying to pick fights and I said I want to fix the situation. He said our wages are disproportionate right now and he's doing his best and that I put pressure in him to keep up with me. Neither one if us appears to be able to come up with one example of this.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 225 ✭✭Twas Not


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    I would say don't tell him she knows about it. He will only make it all about her and what a terrible person she is for looking at his laptop.

    He already has form for this kind of behavior:

    It's pointless dancing around saying lets get finances in order and hope that this triggers some confession from him about his gambling. It won't. Fact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,382 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    Twas Not wrote: »
    It's pointless dancing around saying lets get finances in order and hope that this triggers some confession from him about his gambling. It won't. Fact.

    That's hardly the point. The OP has only recently discovered all of this. He never covered up the fact that he played these games online and the OP was oblivious to the fact that all his money was going on it.

    A little investigation to see how far he would go to cover up his tracks did no harm. She now knows exactly what she is dealing with. it's not all about the finances. He's lied to her face and she knows he did. He was sneaky about the wifi, he hasn't contacted her while she's stayed at her parents. I'm sure the OP is giving serious consideration to how this affects their relationship as well as the gambling problem.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 225 ✭✭Twas Not


    That's hardly the point. The OP has only recently discovered all of this. He never covered up the fact that he played these games online and the OP was oblivious to the fact that all his money was going on it.

    A little investigation to see how far he would go to cover up his tracks did no harm. She now knows exactly what she is dealing with. it's not all about the finances. He's lied to her face and she knows he did. He was sneaky about the wifi, he hasn't contacted her while she's stayed at her parents. I'm sure the OP is giving serious consideration to how this affects their relationship as well as the gambling problem.

    If there is any hope of salvaging the relationship then the gambling problem needs to be confronted head one. Either that or just end it completely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,279 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Not contacting her after she left is a stupid move. But if he is a gambling addict and you know about it then you should tell him you know and if you love him tell him you are prepared to help him get through this. Gambling addiction is like any other addiction, people will lie to cover it up, they will steal to feed it, they will deny that they have a problem. But, if he has the strength of character and your support perhaps he can conquer it and then you two can continue your lives together. If you two can get through something like this and remain together you should be able to face anything really.

    Most addicts refuse to accept that they have a problem, that is the first hurdle. If you come at him with accusations and finger pointing it will end badly. I don't know really how id approach this to be honest. There is only so much you can do, at the end of the day this problem is something only he can solve. Maybe read up online about gambling problems and how people normally deal with it.


  • Administrators Posts: 14,396 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    OP, I am locking your thread for the moment but asking you to contact me by PM through your registered account. I'd just like to clarify a couple of points with you before we let the thread go further.

    Regards,
    Big Bag of Chips.


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