The Big Question: United vs Liverpool - Read Mod Note in OP

Giggsy11

niallo27 wrote: »

Isn't this more to do with liverpool being ****e.

No. United winning other 5 games has nothing to do with how ****e Liverpool team is. We are 3rd in the table after disappointing season last year. None of our new signings even settled yet and we have huge injury crisis. Despite all this we are doing fine.

niallo27 wrote: »

Utd were winning leagues over a year ago. They have spent more than city and Chelsea put together but are 8 points behind them. Utd have been poor this season have they not.

Except both had settled team, managers and on the other hand there was lot of Ins and Outs at ManUtd and a huge injury crisis. ALso our new signings didn't even play till match day 4 or 5.

Augmerson wrote: »

I don't want to trawl through pages and pages just to justify that comment but having said it I suppose I should -

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=93402012&postcount=7351

That was just a quick browse jumping multiple pages.

Look no one is taking the piss, I wouldn't blame Utd fan's. Great form. Great squad (if it would all stay fit).

That post made a simple point that if we are in touching distance from 1st we will spend heavily in Jan. Not we are in title race.

Giggsy11

niallo27 wrote: »

Yes I don't think utd played particularly well on Sunday. They gave up a lot of chances. I'm sure Van Gal will not be happy with the amount of chances liverpool created. That's some squad utd have that they can still field a team like that.

Yes United gave away lot of chances. 2 CBs who just came back from lengthy injury, a CM playing as CM in a system none of them are comfortable with and 2 wingers playing as wingbacks.

Rafael, Shaw, Rojo, Blind, Smalling would have started if they were fit.

bucketybuck

Augmerson wrote: »

I don't want to trawl through pages and pages just to justify that comment but having said it I suppose I should -

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=93402012&postcount=7351

That was just a quick browse jumping multiple pages.

Look no one is taking the piss, I wouldn't blame Utd fan's. Great form. Great squad (if it would all stay fit).

But your link doesn't say that the poster thinks United will win the title?

It simply says that being even close to the title race in freakin January would be a big help with potential transfers.

Poor show.

Augmerson

bucketybuck wrote: »

And yet if you read the United superthread, not one United fan is saying we will win the title or even come close to winning the title..

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=93406342&postcount=7385

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=93364227&postcount=6917

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=93332884&postcount=6618

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=93249564&postcount=5824

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=93248693&postcount=5817

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=92677153&postcount=991

The Moldy Gowl

I see a lot of the word chance there, along with 1 sarcastic reply, and one repy about betting markets.

When your team is third and 8 points off top with half the season to play with a team of di Maria, Rooney, rvp, falcao if he can come back, and de gea, among others playing well and being the form team in the leauge with half the team missing.

Of course there is a chance of winning, or challenging.
The team that played on Sunday won the leauge 2 years ago.

There is nothing deluded saying a utd team has a possibility of challenging.
We can reasses at the end of January. I fergie had this team there would be nothing deluded in thinking of chances.

bucketybuck

Augmerson wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=93406342&postcount=7385

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=93364227&postcount=6917

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=93332884&postcount=6618

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=93249564&postcount=5824

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=93248693&postcount=5817

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=92677153&postcount=991

Bullshit. I would hope that other posters actually check those links and see them for what they are.

Taking facetious responses out of context and trying to label them as people seriously claiming United can win the title is spoofing of the highest order.

The last one is a GIF of Homer crying for gods sake, you are showing yourself up here.

GavRedKing

Of course Utd will be challenging for the league, when you spend that much money and have that squad and a good manager its the minimum they should expect this year.

Theyve got a better squad than last year and a better man at the helm, inconsistent start aside, this Utd side will be involved in the title race all the way down to the wire IMO, Utd fans might play down the expectations but this team are a serious contender.

Augmerson

bucketybuck wrote: »

Bullshit. I would hope that other posters actually check those links and see them for what they are.

Headshot wrote:

We should be odds on favourite to win the title now.

Like this?

bucketybuck

Augmerson wrote: »

Like this?

Who do you think you are fooling?

bucketybuck wrote: »

Taking facetious responses out of context and trying to label them as people seriously claiming United can win the title is spoofing of the highest order.

OwaynOTT

Thread needs a bit of love

Augmerson

Not surprised with that response tbh. I suppose it was all in jest and none of it serious?

PhlegmyMoses

Augmerson wrote: »

Like this?

This is a bizarre post. You have posted what is clearly a joke and tried to pass it off as a real opinion. Pointless.

Anyway, fwiw, I do think that some United fans are getting a bit ahead of themselves. Some of the more realistic fans can see that our form has masked some periods of shakey play and that we have very little chance of going the rest of the season only losing 2 or 3 more max.

For those using the money spent argument as a reason why United should be challenging, I suppose that does make sense if your only way of thinking is in black and white. Ignore the fact that the teams above us have also spent a metric **** tonne in the last couple of years, ignore the fact that we have been playing 3 midfielders in defence in the past couple of games. Never mind the extremely low confidence in the squad and the absurdity of the idea that buying players instantly makes you play well or that it takes a new manager time, even Jose Mourinho going back to a club he built the blueprint for, to get his ideas across.

So if you enjoy black and white thinking, ignoring causal factors and possibly being on the Autism spectrum, the "only money spent is relevant" argument is for you.

Augmerson

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

This is a bizarre post.

Indeed.

RobertKK wrote:

A win on Monday is a must to keep our title chances alive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2cMG33mWVY

Rayne Wooney

All of those posts are light hearted/jokes

This is getting uncomfortable

Augmerson

Ah you crazy jokers!

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=93439821&postcount=7680

RayCun

I think all of your links point to one United supporter who may be serious, and a lot of people who clearly aren't

PhlegmyMoses

Augmerson wrote: »

Ah you crazy jokers!

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=93439821&postcount=7680

He posted betting odds that put us as 3rd favourites! And said one game at a time! All it needs is a We Go Again and I'm pretty certain Chelsea can just pack up and go home.

Hulk Hands

Half the squad on the injury list all season, yet United have 'had a lot of luck' so far? Christ

GavRedKing

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

He posted betting odds that put us as 3rd favourites! And said one game at a time! All it needs is a We Go Again and I'm pretty certain Chelsea can just pack up and go home.

Given City have an easier 3 / 4 weeks starting with this weekend, I'd be surprised if Chelsea are top by the turn of the year or shortly after.

Will I Amnt

Hey Augmerson, here's another crazy loon to add to the list.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=93427575&postcount=3

ThunbergsAreGo

A few of my Man United supporting mates think they can win the title.

They are generally the less informed and would almost be more "anti-Liverpool" than pro their team. It is most definitly not a common thing and you get people like that amongst fans of all the "big" teams

Any decent fan knows it would take a large slice of fortune for them to win it given their weaknesses at the back etc. One thing about them this year is at least they are exciting (ish) to watch again

The Moldy Gowl

Utd are going to win the leauge.

You can take that to the bank. (And bookmark it to take it out if context

0028673

United are in a position to win the League. Can't see why their fans would downplay it.

They are going to get it right at the back at some stage and given the firepower they have up front they are real contenders.

Liam O

I hope the Manchester City Council have the street cleared for the open top bus in May for United. Fireworks spelling out LVG would be a nice touch too.

The Moldy Gowl

Liam O wrote: »

I hope the Manchester City Council have the street cleared for the open top bus in May for United. Fireworks spelling out LVG would be a nice touch too.

Already have it booked. I have my scarf knitted and my t shirts bought.

LuckyLloyd

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

This is getting uncomfortable

I know right...

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Will I Amnt

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I know right...

Who Posted?

Pretty sure he was talking about Augmerson's misguided crusade.

Augmerson

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Hey Augmerson, here's another crazy loon to add to the list.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=93427575&postcount=3

Your just being facetious now mate.

Will I Amnt

Augmerson wrote: »

Your just being facetious now mate.

No, no. I reeeeeaally think we're going to win the league.

bucketybuck

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Utd are going to win the leauge.

You can take that to the bank. (And bookmark it to take it out if context

The sad thing is that he probably will quote that one too.

Augmerson

bucketybuck wrote: »

The sad thing is that he probably will quote that one too.

Or be a really underhand prick and report it.

The Moldy Gowl

Augmerson wrote: »

Or be a really underhand prick and report it.

I can report it for you if you like?

Oranage2

So two months later things have heated up, pool just two points behind United and they're in amazing form.

Dickerty

Oranage2 wrote: »

So two months later things have heated up, pool just two points behind United and they're in amazing form.

It's about more that just these two, but the game at Anfield in a few weeks could be a decider...

8-10

United have Spurs, Liverpool, City, Chelsea and Everton in the next 7 league games with an FA Cup tie with Arsenal in between. If they can do well enough in those games to stay ahead they'll easily be top 4.

Peist2007

I remember many times over the past 20 odd years where the biggest moment of a Liverpool fan's season would be a 1-0 win over United at Anfield in September and October. United would invariably go on and win the league.
What matters is winning trophies. Liverpool should only become relevant to United when directly challenging them for trophies. And vice versa. Fans resorting to it being all about who will finish higher between Liverppol and United whilst other teams (City and Chelsea) hoover up said trophies is a sign of how far Liverpool have fallen in the game and also a sign of where United could be heading.

Sheepy99

Peist2007 wrote: »

I remember many times over the past 20 odd years where the biggest moment of a Liverpool fan's season would be a 1-0 win over United at Anfield in September and October. United would invariably go on and win the league.
What matters is winning trophies. Liverpool should only become relevant to United when directly challenging them for trophies. And vice versa. Fans resorting to it being all about who will finish higher between Liverppol and United whilst other teams (City and Chelsea) hoover up said trophies is a sign of how far Liverpool have fallen in the game and also a sign of where United could be heading.

Whatever makes you feel better

Peist2007

Sheepy99 wrote: »

Whatever makes you feel better

Nothing to do with me at all. The facts speak for themselves. Unless you can show me how United and Liverpool, today, are anywhere close to their former selves?

Sheepy99

I didn't say they were, but you're just nitpicking in a thinly veiled attempt at having a go at both clubs, for no reason really.

RasTa

Chucky the tree wrote: »

I'd easily have Lucas over Carrick, no doubt in my mind about that.

rarnes1 wrote: »

Yeah, I presumed he was joking.

It's not even close

Still cracks me up, not even close!

Cantona's Collars

Oranage2 wrote: »

So two months later things have heated up, pool just two points behind United and they're in amazing form.

Until United broke them.:D

ronjo

zerks wrote: »

Until United broke them.:D

If United broke them, what did Arsenal do to them the following week?

Korat

What was that "Luck Lloyd" list about?

(It's long so I don't want to quote it)

Will I Amnt

Korat wrote: »

What was that "Luck Lloyd" list about?

(It's long so I don't want to quote it)

The people who posted in the thread and how many times they posted. Think he just got the wrong end of the stick on what he quoted.

niallo27

RasTa wrote: »

Still cracks me up, not even close!

No your right it's not even close. I would much prefer to have Lucas. He has been missing the last month or so and liverpool have really struggled without him.

RasTa

niallo27 wrote: »

No your right it's not even close. I would much prefer to have Lucas. He has been missing the last month or so and liverpool have really struggled without him.

What on earth does that have to with Carrick's ability. I'd love to know how it's not even close and Lucas is so superior.

niallo27

RasTa wrote: »

What on earth does that have to with Carrick's ability. I'd love to know how it's not even close and Lucas is so superior.

I thought the question was who would you prefer in your team and I would pick Lucas. Carrick is a fine player but I would prefer Lucas.

duffman13

niallo27 wrote: »

I thought the question was who would you prefer in your team and I would pick Lucas. Carrick is a fine player but I would prefer Lucas.

Even taking into consideration their ages and the fact that Carrick possibly only has one more season left as a starter at united, I would still take Carrick.

Both have been pivotal to each of there teams and thats fair enough. As an all around player I would prefer Carrick over Lucas.

niallo27

duffman13 wrote: »

Even taking into consideration their ages and the fact that Carrick possibly only has one more season left as a starter at united, I would still take Carrick.

Both have been pivotal to each of there teams and thats fair enough. As an all around player I would prefer Carrick over Lucas.

Thats fair enough I just think Lucas is more important to liverpool than carrick is to Utd.

The Moldy Gowl

niallo27 wrote: »

Thats fair enough I just think Lucas is more important to liverpool than carrick is to Utd.

That's not the question. The question was who was better.

Carrick obviously.