Manchester United vs Roma. 26/7/'14 KO 21.06 MUTV.

zarquon

Very telling that LVG hooked cleverley despite saying he would play 90 minutes

greenman09

He now knows what we all know

MagicMarker

zarquon wrote: »

Very telling that LVG hooked cleverley despite saying he would play 90 minutes

Tbh I don't think the change would have been made had the crowd not clearly wanted chico on.

duffman13

user2011 wrote: »

Shaw looks overwhelmed : ( I'm a massive fan of his but yeah.. Hopefully time sorts it out.

Spot on Reece was more impressive in the first half. It will take him a few months to settle

adox

Zaha already in Van Gaals bad books obviously.

Didn't look happy at all on the bench.

greedygoblin

I thought Cleverley improved in the 2nd half, or what he played of it.

RobertKK

greenman09 wrote: »

He now knows what we all know

LVG thinks...I would need to be Jesus to turn TC23 into a Vidal type midfielder.

Oregano_State

great from shaw there.

adox

Kagawa has been class so far.

RobertKK

Classy Pjanic.

MagicIRL

Pjanic!

duffman13

What a hit

Trigger

Holy crap Amos will be dropped

Grid.

Amos asleep there!

DM_7

Lovely, Van Gaal might like a bit of him instead of Cleverley

adox

Amos lol!

Great hit all the same.

Crimson King

Bad awareness from Amos.

Nice finish Pjanic

sky88

3 cracking goals tonight

Kirby

"Pjanic at the back for United!"

:P

Mantis Toboggan

Wow, that was an unreal goal from Roma.

user2011

duffman13 wrote: »

Spot on Reece was more impressive in the first half. It will take him a few months to settle

Hoping weeks, longer it goes the more pressure builds on him.

A wait and see.. hope he pulls through.

Trigger

Jaysus young has been awful

MagicMarker

Wow, stadium is practically half empty but there's still over 50k there.

duffman13

user2011 wrote: »

Hoping weeks, longer it goes the more pressure builds on him.

A wait and see.. hope he pulls through.

He is overawed at the moment. I think it will be months, hasn't even played at OT yet. One or two really good games in the league and he will be fine but might take time for that too happen

NTMK

MagicMarker wrote: »

Wow, stadium is practically half empty but there's still over 50k there.

there are ****ing college stadiums bigger than OT over there

Nice save by amos

adox

duffman13 wrote: »

He is overawed at the moment. I think it will be months, hasn't even played at OT yet. One or two really good games in the league and he will be fine but might take time for that too happen

Ah Jaysus it's preseason, he's had what 90 minutes in two games with hugely changing teams. A bit rash calling him overawed and taking months to settle!

duffman13

astradave wrote: »

Jaysus young has been awful

Runs around in a circle for about 30 seconds because he won't cross with his lleft.Nice cross in the end but he must know that defenders have him sussed

RobertKK

Very harsh penalty.

Lord TSC

Second team nowhere near as good as first,,,

Grid.

Tough call against Keane!!

jimmytwotimes 2013

Shaw also now playing wing-back and not full-back. Might take a small bit of getting used to, along with new team etc. He should be fine, looked quality last season.

MagicIRL

Terrible refereeing.

ShaneU

Keeper was miles off his line when that was taken ?

Kylo Ren

Such an ambiguous call. Referees are so inconsistent in those situations.

Kirby

MagicIRL wrote: »

Terrible refereeing.

Good refereeing in my book. It was handball.

MagicIRL

Kirby wrote: »

Good refereeing in my book. It was handball.

Really? Came off his chest/shoulder more than anything.

duffman13

adox wrote: »

Ah Jaysus it's preseason, he's had what 90 minutes in two games with hugely changing teams. A bit rash calling him overawed and taking months to settle!

I don't mean that as a criticism. He has looked nervous in interviews and in the games so far. I mean it as a 19 yr old completely removed from his comfort zone and dealing with a lot more pressure. And when I say settle I mean putting in top performances like he was doing at Southampton.

Crimson King

Kirby wrote: »

Good refereeing in my book. It was handball.

If he meant that his talents are being wasted in the wrong sport

duffman13

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

Shaw also now playing wing-back and not full-back. Might take a small bit of getting used to, along with new team etc. He should be fine, looked quality last season.

I agree but it should make it easier defensively playing in a back 5 rather than 4.

FutureGuy

Captain Cleverly came off and the team fell apart. That'll teach Van Gaal to take him off early.

bangkok

duffman13 wrote: »

I don't mean that as a criticism. He has looked nervous in interviews and in the games so far. I mean it as a 19 yr old completely removed from his comfort zone and dealing with a lot more pressure. And when I say settle I mean putting in top performances like he was doing at Southampton.

serious question, how many full southampton games have you seen or are you just judging shaw by the odd game or MOTD highlights?

duffman13

bangkok wrote: »

serious question, how many full southampton games have you seen or are you just judging shaw by the odd game or MOTD highlights?

Serious answer I seen him live 4 times last year as my sister lives in Bournemouth and her husband is a big Southampton fan. Also watched most of the live games on sky/BT. Why?

Am I being ridiculous to suggest a 19 yr old with a lot of expectation and talent may take time to settle after a 27 million quid transfer.

Martin Walker

Come on guys, the second pre season friendly will show nothing in terms of how the team will perform in competitive matches. You all need to relax a bit and just enjoy the fact we are playing again.

smurfs5

astradave wrote: »

Jaysus young has been awful

Young's always awful.

Cantona's Collars

Somebody was practicing their long range kicking for Roma.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2706999/Miralem-Pjanics-60-yard-wondergoal-no-fluke-Roma-star-practicing-technique-training-week.html

jimmytwotimes 2013

duffman13 wrote: »

I agree but it should make it easier defensively playing in a back 5 rather than 4.

Back 3/5 depends on how u look at it. Shaw is now running a left flank on his own as opposed to playing behind/ in tandem with a winger

Donnielighto

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

Back 3/5 depends on how u look at it. Shaw is now running a left flank on his own as opposed to playing behind/ in tandem with a winger

If it's a back 3 then shaw isnt part of it.

jimmytwotimes 2013

Donnielighto wrote: »

If it's a back 3 then shaw isnt part of it.

Playing wing-back is more difficult than playing fullback was the point I think. Back 3/5 whatever you want to call it, more expected of Shaw in that system.