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Have you any LGBT family members?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,106 ✭✭✭SpannerMonkey


    im genuinely surprised at this poll . dont get me wrong im not bashing anything my best friend is gay but im surprised at a near 50/50 poll for family members


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,454 ✭✭✭NSAman


    Ninjini wrote: »
    I have a cousin who came out a few years ago and unfortunately got disowned by his parents and emigrated.

    I can't understand why some people choose to have nothing to do with their child just because of who they are attracted to.

    I hope you remain in contact with him?... sheezz some people never learn.. love not hate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭No Pants


    Deank wrote: »
    Or G, maybe?!
    Perhaps. I don't know how that works. The labels confuse me as they sound almost childish at times, yet seem to be accepted. Regardless, it's none of my business what she gets up to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    My daughter is bisexual and in a lesbian relationship at the moment, very happy for her and proud of her. My only concern is that if she meets someone special of the same sex she might not be able to marry etc but hopefully next year that will change.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Well if he is an only child then chances are they will never get grandkids.

    You'd imagine they'd cherish him all the more then.

    I can't understand such conditional love.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Well if he is an only child then chances are they will never get grandkids.

    Gay people can and do have children. This guy might have a family, granted it will be harder but not impossible. If he had been straight he might never have had kids either. Its also not the duty of a child to provide grandchildren for his or her parents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭Sugar Free


    I find the poll results interesting. Although I voted no, I would have thought my extended family were in the minority, considering that accounts for a total of about 20 people.

    Of course, there's always a chance someone in that group is gay, I'm just not aware of anyone who is at present.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭StormWarrior


    My dog is bisexual with gender identity issues. I've seen her mounted by male dogs and trying to mount the females.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭StormWarrior


    my brother & i are both gay

    With each other?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    Sugar Free wrote: »
    I find the poll results interesting. Although I voted no, I would have thought my extended family were in the minority, considering that accounts for a total of about 20 people.

    Of course, there's always a chance someone in that group is gay, I'm just not aware of anyone who is at present.

    There's gay or bisexual people in every single family, wether extended or not.

    Whether any of them are out is another question.

    I voted no, even though I think 2 of my older cousins are gay and a younger one a lesbian.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Not that I know of but I don't want to vote in your poll. The exclamation marks are intimidating me.

    You're easily intimidated :)

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    cloud493 wrote: »
    My brother used to say he was, but he went back and forth between that and loving 'pussy' so.

    He's bi?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    Possibly because they didn't particularly care for your guesswork and stereotyping (how the hell else could you tell a seven year old child is gay?) but were trying to be polite about it.

    No disrespect RB but it's exactly that sort of nonsense that truly annoys me.

    No disrespect Czar but I have geaed many many stories of people coming out to their mothers and the response was I've known since you were 6/7/8

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭westernfrenzy


    I don't know any people in my family who aren't straight. Well apart from me being pansexual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    You've inadvertently (or perhaps deliberately) hit upon an important point. The term 'LGBT' is a useful one because it brings together different groups of people that are dealing with similar issues. However, I feel that it's being used too liberally, to the extent that people aren't engaging with it. In particular, people aren't engaging with the 'T'. Transgenderism is a very complex issue. Some would say that everyone's sexuality is a complex matter. And that's true. But transgenderism is in a league of its own. I'm just concerned that it's being hidden away in an acronym. Hopefully people have the good sense to unpack the term 'LGBT' and investigate each element of it.

    Indeed. I find it a bit odd that lgbt and gay are becoming intertwined and almost synonymous with each other. Someone recently asked me if I was lgbt.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Right Turn Clyde


    Someone recently asked me if I was lgbt.

    Haha. It sounds like a bloody trade union or something.

    You should have said no, but I'm starting a Jobbridge one on Monday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭Ninjini


    NSAman wrote: »
    I hope you remain in contact with him?... sheezz some people never learn.. love not hate.


    Unfortunately he left without telling anyone where he was heading.

    I have made sure to blank his parents though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    Ninjini wrote: »
    I have a cousin who came out a few years ago and unfortunately got disowned by his parents and emigrated.

    I can't understand why some people choose to have nothing to do with their child just because of who they are attracted to.

    Better off without people like that around you anyway. If my parents had reacted that way I have had no problem in cutting them out and moving on myself.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Fat Christy


    You're easily intimidated :)

    Calm your tits Joey, I'll vote. :) For all I know, a few of them could be so I don't know if my 'No' vote is entirely accurate.

    I have one friend who told us he was gay years ago but none of his family know and he's terrified of telling them. :( He finds it hard to deal with it. For all I know, someone in my family could be in the same boat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,220 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    jellyboy wrote: »
    If you stepped out of yourself for the briefest of moments and looked at the bigger picture

    we all love ,breath ,live,smile ,eat , as humans
    the difference is we do it the way we want to to according to our beliefs,culture,and being honest with ourselves.

    Being gay or having gay family members really doesn't matter to me
    because i love them the same way before they told me they were gay

    i refuse to treat them with a label that says victim
    my label of love does it for me

    Now you can step back into your box of it matters to me

    I started this thread to see what percentage of boards users have a LGBT family member. In my experience people with LGBT family members are more likely to support equal rights/ support gay marriage in next years referendum.
    Saying somebody is LGBT is not treating them as a victim!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Fat Christy


    I started this thread to see what percentage of boards users have a LGBT family member. In my experience people with LGBT family members are more likely to support equal rights/ support gay marriage in next years referendum.
    Saying somebody is LGBT is not treating them as a victim!

    I have no LGBT family members (that I know of). I'll be supporting gay marriage in next years referendum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Sulla Felix


    No, none, even in the extended family. The two cousins we were fairly sure were gay are all married before the rest of us, one has two kids, the other has one on the way. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,220 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I have no LGBT family members (that I know of). I'll be supporting gay marriage in next years referendum.

    I said in my experience that be with LGBT family members are more likely to support gay marriage/equal rights! I never said that people without LGBT family members doesn't support the issue.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Fat Christy


    I said in my experience that be with LGBT family members are more likely to support gay marriage/equal rights! I never said that people without LGBT family members doesn't support the issue.

    You'll have to make a second poll and see. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    I said in my experience that be with LGBT family members are more likely to support gay marriage/equal rights! I never said that people without LGBT family members doesn't support the issue.

    Its a chicken and egg thing. Are those people more tolerant because they have LGBT family and friends or does the fact they are tolerant make it more likely their family will come out to them?

    I've always been a supporter of LGBT rights and that is one of the reasons my daughter felt able to talk about her sexuality to us from an early age. It hasn't changed my opinions on the issues but makes them more personal and makes me more inclined to fight for them.

    I'd imagine a lot of people hide their sexuality because they know they won't be treated very respectfully.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭lazybones32


    My dog is bisexual with gender identity issues. I've seen her mounted by male dogs and trying to mount the females.

    Is her name 'Butch' by any chance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    im genuinely surprised at this poll . dont get me wrong im not bashing anything my best friend is gay but im surprised at a near 50/50 poll for family members

    I wonder if there's an element of people just not being too interested in what their relatives do with their lives and simply not knowing at play.

    I know that I couldn't give a fiddlers about mine for example.


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No, nor in my extended family. I don't have any in my circle of friends, work friends either and to be honest I think I only know one gay person and that's someone I only sort of know through other people.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    I think Czarcasm just means "Y'know, I'd say Jo(e) is gay - (s)he never went out with anyone" etc type whispering behind the person's back, even if it is true. It's kinda gossipy.
    At the same time though, it's not the worst thing a person could do - there's no malice.

    I have a first cousin in the US who's gay. His father was not happy at all about it, and there was estrangement for a few years, but things have moved in a positive direction since. Still though, I don't have much respect for my uncle (mother's brother) now. I can understand people of that generation not being used to the idea, not fully understanding it, etc, but cutting ties with their offspring - nah, can't empathise. My uncle has demonstrated bigotry in other ways too - ironic, for an Irish immigrant to the States.

    My cousin is living it up fabulously in NYC these days anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Magaggie wrote: »
    I think Czarcasm just means "Y'know, I'd say Jo(e) is gay - (s)he never went out with anyone" etc type whispering behind the person's back, even if it is true. It's kinda gossipy.
    At the same time though, it's not the worst thing a person could do - there's no malice.


    Thanks Magaggie, that's exactly what I was trying to say, and I know I may have come off a bit sharp in saying it but from personal experience I've had to listen to people make assumptions about my sexuality, and it hurts, it DOES hurt, and sometimes while no malice may be intended, that doesn't mean it hurts any less, and more times malice was indeed intended because it wasn't just name calling (that much I can deal with), but it was because of their genuinely held belief that I was gay that they treated me differently.

    People often make the same assumptions about my child and again, I can tell when they're messing, and when they're actually seriously engaging in some amateur armchair psychology. I'm not even thinking at his age whether he is or he isn't or anything else about his sexuality, I have bigger concerns than that, but some people are almost obsessive about his sexuality and would want to label and categorise him asap having only just met or interacted with him for five minutes.

    It DOES tick me off, as it does leave me thinking "he's just a child ffs, WTF is your problem? Let him be a child and keep your amateur psychology based on your own stereotypes and prejudices to yourself".

    I'm usually more polite about it though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,741 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    I thought this was a thread about the Little Big Tent at the Electric Picnic, is it not?

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Macavity. wrote: »
    TBH, I don't think that was what you meant at all. You've now seen that your original comment was over the top and are trying to make out you meant something more reasonable.


    If anything Macavity, my comment was actually quite reserved and polite. I didn't think it could have been interpreted any other way but you're right, given some peoples own prejudices they made their best attempt at doing so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    Have a gay cousin. Ironically he thinks the Catholic church is the best thing since sliced bread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    I have a gay cousin that I know of. Given the size of my family, I'd imagine there are more that keep it quiet (esp in the older generation).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    I have a cousin who was a bit of an outcast growing up. He came out and told everyone he was gay. Fair enough. He joined a LGBT group and updated his 'MySpace' page to say he was gay.

    Never thought much of it, but like two years later at a family gathering, he shows up with his girlfriend. Long story short, she was a bisexual girl that he met at the LGBT group. They dated for a few years, she got pregnant, they had a child, got married, and are still together to this day.

    As far as his sister knows he only dated girls and nobody has seen him with a guy. Apparently, when he started dating this girl, he told some people he was 'bi'.

    So, I guess I don't know. He's either LGBT....or he pretended to be gay to pick up bi chicks at the LGBT groups.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    I accidentally voted no but the answer is yes there are loads all over the big gay family tree


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Jamsiek


    No, nor in my extended family. I don't have any in my circle of friends, work friends either and to be honest I think I only know one gay person and that's someone I only sort of know through other people.

    I'd imagine you know more than you realize.
    I think people are afraid to be open about it especiallly where they have older relatives


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    I have two gay second cousins, I think. Know of someone with a gay son and lesbian daughter (i.e. half of the kids are gay)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Warper


    Everyone in my family is gay


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭StormWarrior


    Is her name 'Butch' by any chance?

    No. Her name is Princess Buffy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    My uncle was gay born about 1941
    He lived the lie had three daughters a wife the whole deal
    Died of aids in 2012 he caught it off the scene which was lies and rent boys
    At my wedding in 2010 I told him I was cool and that he could tell me whatever he wanted to share
    His life was a lie but he was happy cos he lived his way
    How happy would he have been If he'd of got to live his way and not had to lie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,963 ✭✭✭Meangadh


    No but I have about 40 first cousins and 16 aunts and uncles so statistically surely a few must be. None of my siblings are either. Doesn't make any sense that amongst approx 60 people that they'd all be straight, but there aren't any that I'd even suspect as being gay. Not that I'd give a fiddler's even if they were.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No, nor in my extended family. I don't have any in my circle of friends, work friends either and to be honest I think I only know one gay person and that's someone I only sort of know through other people.

    I'd say there are more than you're aware of. Some circles are harder to come out in than others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭fillefatale


    Yes, my brother. He likely won't come out to my parents for a long time though, they're very conservative and catholic and keep asking him about his 'girlfriends', his female friends. I'll be there to support him whatever happens though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    I thought long and hard and I can't think of a single one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    The brother, no big deal and he'll inherit the farm

    If the bull and the rams are gay it'll be a disaster :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    I had an uncle who once played for Red Star Belgrade.
    He said some things are really best left unspoken
    But I prefer it all to be out in the open.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 126 ✭✭Moat_Cailin


    None, that I know of anyway.

    Would think(hope)I would be someone a family member or friend would confide in. Must be very tough for people that feel they have to hide such feelings and can't openly be themselves. I would hate to think someone close to me is going through that.


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