Killing Animals

kneemos

Duggy747 wrote: »

The GF always wants me to kill spiders but I always let them go out the back, they're handy for catching the bastard flies and they don't bother me..........though yesterday one manky bastard ran up my leg quickly and jumped onto the other leg

This is Ireland so our spiders are grand, if this were Australia I'd have burnt the house down to the ground and nuked the site from orbit.

House spiders can't survive outdoors afaik,better off killing it.

kingtut

Barely There wrote: »

I killed a pigeon this morning.

I was driving up to work behing another car. He was in the middle of the road, I pulled out to over take just as Mr Pigeon started to flap away accross to the other side of the carriageway - the side I just pulled out into.
BAM!

Feathers and a big loud girly scream (from me)!

Why did he fly accross the road - Why?

I hope you got out of the car, gathered up what was remaining and gave it a proper funeral rather than leaving it there to get squished by other cars :mad:

Oh the humanity!

murpho999

I don't get the hate for spiders. Completely harmless creatures who won't come near you.

Even the "dangerous" ones in Australia won't go near you.

Akrasia

I have kids who love bringing in little insects and worms and anything else they can find in the garden. They're ages 3 and 5 and my general rule is that they can examine them and play with them as long as they are gentle and try not to hurt them. (for rare and protected animals like newts and toads, they're only allowed to look at them for a few minutes before we release them back to where they were found)

If I ever caught my kids deliberately killing animals for fun, I would be very disappointed, but then I remember the hours I used to spend committing clover mite genocide on the wall around our garden when I was a kid.

(clover mites are the tiny little red spiders that leave a red blood stain when you squash them and there are millions of them on garden walls around the country)

sleepytrees

Killing animals is a sign of psychopathic tendencies..

That being said INSECTS.. hmm it's a tricky one. There was this big fat fly driving me crazy and I squashed the bastard over and over again, the look of horror from my nearly two year old made me feel so bad!!

I think it's evil if you pick legs of daddy long legs or squash snails but i'm ok with killing wasps and sometime bees, mostly bees don't wanna sting you but wasps go after you.. anyway I'm probably a hypocrite.
I'm terried of Moths too and would kill them but I don't like the way they almost turn to dust, it's like a piece of art saying 'look at what you did'

Generally though if something isn't bothering you, why kill it?
I think animals are interesting and lovely, and even some insects. Although saying that I wouldn't pet a tiger that just escaped from the zoo, a penguin maybe.

Whatsisname

If a big ass spider comes stomping on my territory, it receives an unmerciful ass whooping.

Yeah_Right

TheBrinch wrote: »

Anything that enters my room is fair game to be killed.

What happens if you pick someone up on a night out? How do you dispose of the bodies?

kingtut

Yeah_Right wrote: »

What happens if you pick someone up on a night out? How do you dispose of the bodies?

Acid, bath tub ..... :cool:

looksee

Mosquitoes, slugs and snails if they are munching stuff, things like greenfly and animal fleas are all fair game. Otherwise let it out of the window or leave it be. I don't mind spiders too much - i wouldn't handle them but can live with them, they are beneficial.

Feisar

sleepytrees wrote: »

Killing animals is a sign of psychopathic tendencies..

That being said INSECTS.. hmm it's a tricky one. There was this big fat fly driving me crazy and I squashed the bastard over and over again, the look of horror from my nearly two year old made me feel so bad!!

I think it's evil if you pick legs of daddy long legs or squash snails but i'm ok with killing wasps and sometime bees, mostly bees don't wanna sting you but wasps go after you.. anyway I'm probably a hypocrite.
I'm terried of Moths too and would kill them but I don't like the way they almost turn to dust, it's like a piece of art saying 'look at what you did'

Generally though if something isn't bothering you, why kill it?
I think animals are interesting and lovely, and even some insects. Although saying that I wouldn't pet a tiger that just escaped from the zoo, a penguin maybe.

The decking outside the house seems to be a magnet for snails. Always feel crap when I here a crunch in the dark.

kingtut

Look what I found in my garden, so cute

Peist2007

kneemos wrote: »

Good question.Is a fly's life any less important than a dog or a seal?

No. But you could lump human in there and i would say the same. I am operating from the premise however that no single life is significant in the scheme of things. Our inherent importance is a folly fuelled by the limitations of the self

SirCreepalot

bodice ripper wrote: »

My rule is that if it has more than 4 legs or fewer than 2, I can kill it.

I love your video !

ScumLord

Insects over produce offspring, the reproduction cycle fully accepts every other living thing on the planet is trying to kill them. So people killing a few dozen is meaningless and nature laughs at your feeble attempts to stop the insects annoying your brain.

I generally don't go out of my way to kill any animal. The only things I can't stand are those tiny little hoverflies that seem to enjoy flying right in front of your face, the problem is they're nearly impossible to hit. Probably worse is the giant house fly that wakes up when you turn off the lights at night and get into bed, it's like the ****er is just waiting for you to relax so it can start bouncing off all the walls and zipping by your ears.

Donnielighto

kneemos wrote: »

House spiders can't survive outdoors afaik,better off killing it.

Then how'd they get into the house?

Donnielighto

sleepytrees wrote: »

Killing animals is a sign of psychopathic tendencies..

That being said INSECTS.. hmm it's a tricky one. There was this big fat fly driving me crazy and I squashed the bastard over and over again, the look of horror from my nearly two year old made me feel so bad!!

I think it's evil if you pick legs of daddy long legs or squash snails but i'm ok with killing wasps and sometime bees, mostly bees don't wanna sting you but wasps go after you.. anyway I'm probably a hypocrite.
I'm terried of Moths too and would kill them but I don't like the way they almost turn to dust, it's like a piece of art saying 'look at what you did'

Generally though if something isn't bothering you, why kill it?
I think animals are interesting and lovely, and even some insects. Although saying that I wouldn't pet a tiger that just escaped from the zoo, a penguin maybe.

Read somewhere that more species of wasps die from stinging that bees, just that the most common bee in ireland dies if it stings.

Never been stung by a wasp and i let them hang around me if that's their bag.

Saipanne

LizzieJones wrote: »

Last time I looked a fly was an insect, not an animal.

Morto for ya

Tar.Aldarion

Donnielighto wrote: »

Read somewhere that more species of wasps die from stinging that bees, just that the most common bee in ireland dies if it stings.

Never been stung by a wasp and i let them hang around me if that's their bag.

I thought wasps do not ie from stinging, this is because their stinger is not barbed like a honey bee, the only species of bee that dies from stinging. They also die if they have sex, terrible design that !

Hotfail.com

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

I thought wasps do not ie from stinging, this is because their stinger is not barbed like a honey bee, the only species of bee that dies from stinging. Terrible design that !

They could do with an upgrade to be fair.

Tar.Aldarion

Hotfail.com wrote: »

They could do with an upgrade to be fair.

Especially after you read my edit

aidoh

kneemos wrote: »

House spiders can't survive outdoors afaik,better off killing it.

How do you think they survived for millions (or at least tens of thousands) of years before people started building houses?

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

Mosquitos and midges, I kill em dead.

Blue-bottles and wasps, I'll try to get them out a window but I'm not going to spend more than about 15 minutes on it. If they're too thick and bastarding to go out by then, they're getting got. They're pricks anyways.

Moths and daddylonglegs: If they don't bother me, I don't bother them, if I'm trying to watch TV/laptop and they keep flinging themselves at the screen then they get the same treatment as the blue-bottles and wasps.

Spiders, bees, butterflies: don't kill, try and put the bees and butterflies out if I find them.

Outdoorsy insects: leave them alone, no need to be killing them at all.

Other animals: I once found an injured mouse in a laundry room at work and brought it home in my pocket to mind, so you can probably figure out my attitude to other animals from that :pac:

Saipanne

aidoh wrote: »

How do you think they survived for millions (or at least tens of thousands) of years before people started building houses?

The aliens?

failinis

Try to get flies and wasps to get out the window, if all else fails it gets swatted.
I do try and get bee's outside safely though, numbers of them are dropping fast.

Keep spiders about, unless it has an egg sack, no time for 100s of them.

I would and have put injured animals out of their misery on roadside before, but it still makes me feel awful bad, but then I think I should not let it die slowly? Awful situation.

Edit: Mice/rats get the trap straight away.
With mice I will consider a humane trap then release them a good 3-4miles away in a field, but rats, no, traps.

Galwayguy35

Barely There wrote: »

I killed a pigeon this morning.

I was driving up to work behing another car. He was in the middle of the road, I pulled out to over take just as Mr Pigeon started to flap away accross to the other side of the carriageway - the side I just pulled out into.
BAM!

Feathers and a big loud girly scream (from me)!

Why did he fly accross the road - Why?

I do be on the road early myself and pigeons seem to be especially stupid, they wait until the last minute and then decide to take off right in the direction of the car.

Crows and magpies seem to be a lot smarter, they are well out of the way before a car gets near.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

I do be on the road early myself and pigeons seem to be especially stupid, they wait until the last minute and then decide to take off right in the direction of the car.

Crows and magpies seem to be a lot smarter, they are well out of the way before a car gets near.

I notice a lot of birds doing that, thrushes and finches (as far as I can tell from a speeding car like :P) and stuff. I always picture their birdy friends in the bushes going all "go on you pussy, do it! we've all done it, go!"

Alun

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

I do be on the road early myself and pigeons seem to be especially stupid, they wait until the last minute and then decide to take off right in the direction of the car.

Crows and magpies seem to be a lot smarter, they are well out of the way before a car gets near.

Early in the morning they're cold, and so their flight muscles aren't up to temperature which makes them more sluggish than usual.

Arthur Beesley

The Adversary wrote: »

Don't kill a dog, Everything else is fair game.

Even meerkats?

Not keen at all on rodents or flies because of the disease they carry and because they creep me out. Flies are annoying as hell but I generally try shoo them out a window or door. Rodents get caught in humane traps.

Spiders I hate, and I don't have any pangs of conscience in putting them out of my misery. I don't want them laying 100's of eggs in a sac and multiplying exponentially until they take over my living space. Sure, it's unlikely but I'd still rather not risk it.

Galwayguy35

Alun wrote: »

Early in the morning they're cold, and so their flight muscles aren't up to temperature which makes them more sluggish than usual.

Unfortunately they are a lot colder by the time the Golf has finished with them, if I see them I'll slow down to give them time to get out of the way but sometimes they are hidden in the grass by the side of the road and out they come at the wrong time

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

Candie wrote: »

Not keen at all on rodents or flies because of the disease they carry and because they creep me out. Flies are annoying as hell but I generally try shoo them out a window or door. Rodents get caught in humane traps.

Spiders I hate, and I don't have any pangs of conscience in putting them out of my misery. I don't want them laying 100's of eggs in a sac and multiplying exponentially until they take over my living space. Sure, it's unlikely but I'd still rather not risk it.

Apparently a lot of the reason they lay so many eggs is because the widdle baba spiders will eat each other as soon as look at you, so you'll be grand!

kneemos

aidoh wrote: »

How do you think they survived for millions (or at least tens of thousands) of years before people started building houses?

Evolved to live indoors I presume.
Could be wrong though.Though maybe not.
Could be right.

Nino Brown

FutureGuy wrote: »

I kill nothing.

If it's a fly, wasp, spider, whatever, it goes out the window.

What the fcuk is the point in killing something? Could never undertsand it.

And what happens to a house spider when you throw it out the window?

Amani Nice Hatchet

Amani Nice Hatchet wrote: »

Apparently a lot of the reason they lay so many eggs is because the widdle baba spiders will eat each other as soon as look at you, so you'll be grand!

Cannibal spiders.:eek:

Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse.

Arthur Beesley

Karma:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4593682.stm

Donnielighto

Candie wrote: »

Cannibal spiders.:eek:

Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse.

Some species of spider the mother carries the brood on her body and when they hatch she vibrates and drives them into a frenzy.

Then they eat her :eek:

maughantourig

kingtut wrote: »

Look what I found in my garden, so cute

Adorable!!:)

No problem killing/eating animals as long as it's for a reason, (food, threat, the bóllócks won't fly out the window after 15 minutes of trying to catch it).

I suppose this might be a relevant thread to ask: a friend of mine told me about the idea of purchasing and developing ant farms for ants of different species and then connecting the farms to let the ant colonies fight each other to the death.

http://www.tickld.com/funny/t/810421

This seems a bit cruel to me, but also temptingly interesting. What do ye think?

Carry

Wouldn't want to kill anything living, even apologize to the apple trees when I prune them in the winter

BUT: I live in the country side and I turn absolutely vicious by now when my home is invaded by creepy crawlies, like slugs and snails (ever found one on the toilet seat?). They go down the toilet! No mercy.

Spiders are fine as long as they keep their population reasonable - and out of my bedroom. They eat after all other creepy crawlies. Though I have to tidy up after them.

After the tragic death of my cat the mice thought they could have a party in the house. They don't fear my dog who isn't bothered anyway.
First I caught them in a humane trap and brought them outside. Forget it. They come back, unless you drive them at least 10km away.
Now I kill them. They once invaded my larder and nibbled everything not in a tin or in a glass container.

What I'd like to kill to extinction are midges. They eat me alive in humid summer evenings! But there is no way to kill them - too many and too tiny.

bnt

I just put a humongous rat trap outside, in a place where it'll hopefully catch the spaniel-sized rodent that's terrorizing our neighbourhood, and not squish any sparrows in the process. :eek:

re humane mouse traps: I've had good luck with those, releasing the caught mice down by the river a few hundred metres away. One might have come back, can't be sure, but there are more tempting targets for them between there and here.

Donnielighto

Donnielighto wrote: »

Some species of spider the mother carries the brood on her body and when they hatch she vibrates and drives them into a frenzy.

Then they eat her :eek:

Well, that's my nightmares sorted for later.

NeonCookies

Amani Nice Hatchet wrote: »

I notice a lot of birds doing that, thrushes and finches (as far as I can tell from a speeding car like :P) and stuff. I always picture their birdy friends in the bushes going all "go on you pussy, do it! we've all done it, go!"

I do that too

The only things I'll actively hunt down to kill are mosquitos, awful awful things. Spiders get put outside. And I'm not bothered about chasing flies (unless they're near food).

pablo128

bnt wrote: »

I just put a humongous rat trap outside, in a place where it'll hopefully catch the spaniel-sized rodent that's terrorizing our neighbourhood, and not squish any sparrows in the process. :eek:

re humane mouse traps: I've had good luck with those, releasing the caught mice down by the river a few hundred metres away. One might have come back, can't be sure, but there are more tempting targets for them between there and here.

Did you tie down/nail the trap to something? If it only snags a leg, it'll drag the trap off with it. It will probably still die, but you'll be down a trap.

moc moc a moc

Saipanne wrote: »

Morto for ya

Morto for your face

bnt

pablo128 wrote: »

Did you tie down/nail the trap to something? If it only snags a leg, it'll drag the trap off with it. It will probably still die, but you'll be down a trap.

I put it in an enclosed composter where we suspect the rat goes but (birds don't). It's quite hard to set this particular trap off, it will pretty much have to stand on the trigger before it goes Snap. Highly doubtful it could drag the trap out of there, but we'll see.

pablo128

bnt wrote: »

I put it in an enclosed composter where we suspect the rat goes but (birds don't). It's quite hard to set this particular trap off, it will pretty much have to stand on the trigger before it goes Snap. Highly doubtful it could drag the trap out of there, but we'll see.

A good tip would be to find out where it's coming and going. This will usually be by a wall or smething, as they won't go out in the open if they can help it. Then place the trap so it has to actually walk over it, if you get me.

LeinsterDub

kneemos wrote: »

Evolved to live indoors I presume.
Could be wrong though.Though maybe not.
Could be right.

How do you think it got to your house in the first place? The builders hardly installed it.

Deranged96

If any of my dogs ever have to be put down I'll kill them my self.
I hate how people get them put down by the vet, he's your dog and if you have to make the decision to get your dog put down you should be able to deal with it yourself. hard yes but killing an animal you supposedly love shouldn't be easy and its a damn sight more respectful to the animal then getting a stranger to do your dirty work.You owe it to the dog.

Macavity.

Deranged96 wrote: »

If any of my dogs ever have to be put down I'll kill them my self.
I hate how people get them put down by the vet, he's your dog and if you have to make the decision to get your dog put down you should be able to deal with it yourself. hard yes but killing an animal you supposedly love shouldn't be easy and its a damn sight more respectful to the animal then getting a stranger to do your dirty work.You owe it to the dog.

So how would you kill it? Your post seems a bit arbitrary tbh.

Deranged96

Macavity. wrote: »

So how would you kill it? Your post seems a bit arbitrary tbh.

Arbitrary is hardly the right word?
Shur I dunno, I haven't had to look into it yet, thankfully.

Macavity.

Deranged96 wrote: »

Arbitrary is hardly the right word?
Shur I dunno, I haven't had to look into it yet, thankfully.

Arbitrary was the word I was looking for.