Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Note in OP 28/8

Gbear

Panthro wrote: »

I wasn't aware he was a jew.

Panthro

Gbear wrote: »

I wasn't aware he was a jew.

His return is well over due...!

Speak Now

So frustrating for Pepe i'd say, if he could turn his head upside down he'd have a right head of hair. Follicly challenged at the near post im afraid.

Techniques07

Just spotted this on youtube, looks like it will be a laugh.

Soft Falling Rain

googled eyes wrote: »

People have rose tinted glasses on re:Pepe

His wages are huge

He's not the shot stopper he once was


Him staying would have a bad effect on the club.

This is not the man who would be staying



This is

Looks like he's having a bigger sh1t than Hank in breaking bad.

Gbear

Gbear wrote: »

I wasn't aware he was a jew.

yeah, strange meme

murpho999

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Is Pepe really just wearing a tshirt with random tennis words strewn across it?

On the back is "Let", "Ball", "In" & "Net".

I don't get the sympathy some express for Reina.

Millionaire footballer leaves club to make more milions, he'll get over the disappointment of being second choice can try his zany jokes on the famous German sense of humour.

His statement last year was unforgiveable as well

michael999999

murpho999 wrote: »

On the back is "Let", "Ball", "In" & "Net".

I don't get the sympathy some express for Reina.

Millionaire footballer leaves club to make more milions, he'll get over the disappointment of being second choice can try his zany jokes on the famous German sense of humour.

His statement last year was unforgiveable as well

I dont think its about sympathy, nothing wrong with respect for a player who gave he's best years to us!

mada999

viper006 wrote: »

VinnOConnor: @maturelover22 @Raheeminho Markovic slight strain...not training as a precaution...not serious

L Marković Tendon Injury 17th Aug 14
D Sturridge Hamstring Injury 17th Aug 14



http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php

murpho999

michael999999 wrote: »

I dont think its about sympathy, nothing wrong with respect for a player who gave he's best years to us!

You talk as if he made a huge sacrifice for this. He was handsomely rewarded for his "sacrifice".
I do appreciate he could have left around the Hodgson era.

gafferino

mada999 wrote: »

L Marković Tendon Injury 17th Aug 14
D Sturridge Hamstring Injury 17th Aug 14



http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php

Sturridge is in the training pics today. Seems fine.

Hotfail.com

I really really hope Markovic is ready for Sunday week. Pity Lallana won't be fit for a few weeks

marno21

Apologies if already posted...

marno21

marno21 wrote: »

Apologies if already posted...

Probably explains Agger staying

~Rebel~

Very good signing for West Ham to be honest. I have a lot of time for Cissokho...not quite good enough for us, but a hard working, decent defender.

martyos121

marno21 wrote: »

Apologies if already posted...

Can't wait to play Villa this season. Key to victory is to play everyone on the right .

Harry Palmr

Can
Lambert
Lallana
Lovren
Manquillo
Markovic
Origi

Just reminding myself who has been signed!

Hotfail.com

Anyone here ever look at the comments on Liverpool's Facebook page? It makes this place look good :pac:

Re: Pepe Reina's departure

Talent Mzilankatha Ncube (and 377 likes) wrote:

A BIG MISTAKE by Rodgers letting Pepe leave...sometimes I wonder if he's gud enough 4 LFC or LFC is big 4 him...he's busy buying average players...WE ArE NOT SWANSEA, we are LIVERPOOL. The best club in the World...Brendan

Re: Origi's arrival

Dave Noonan wrote:

The only forward we have bought and we go and loan him out straight away FFS!!!

Poor Rickie

Re: I hate Brendan Rodgers

El-rufai Olawale wrote:

Brendan Rodgers is a good coach, no
doubt about it, but he has got it wrong
with his transfer dealings.

Lets take a look @ Rodgers transfers since
he took the helm @ ANFIELD hot seat in
2012. He signed 14 players, 2 on loan & 1
free. They are: Fabio Borini - £10m
Joe Allen - £15m
Oussama Assaidi - £2.4m
Shamed Yesil - £1m
Daniel Sturridge - £12m
Philippe Coutinho - £8.5
Tiago ILori - £7m
Mamadou Sakho - £18m
Simon Mignolet - £9m
Iago Aspas - £7.2m
Luis Alberto - £6.8m
All these totalling a whopping £97.4m.

With all these transfers only Sturridge &
Coutinho have made their mark, with
Mignolet & Sakho yet 2 live up 2
expectations. Meaning that Rodgers has
wasted a total of £49.9m on these 7 flops:
Borini, Allen, Assaidi, Yesil, ILori, Aspas &
Alberto.

This season Rodgers has continued in his
QUEST to sign MEDIOCRE players rather
than signing proven player.

Some of his recent signings are: Lallana(£25m), Can
(£10m), Markovic(£20m), Lovren(£20m),
Origi(£10m), Lambert(£4m) totalling £89m.

None of them are proven with only 1
season performance. Don't 4get when we
signed Suarez we were not in CL & he was
not a super star BT he was a goal machine
@ Ajax. This is type of players I except BR 2
b signing not d average ones. My question
is: Has Rodgers got it right or wrong in his
transfer dealings?

Gurakuq Ukaj wrote:

Andy Carroll , Igor Aspas, now we have Lambert! #fail

Igor? :pac:

Just buy a striker who can put the ball in the back of the net, you muppet! Or 1-3 to the Mancs is going to happen a lot this season!

Josh Bains wrote:

LAMBERT SUCKS

Pako Leung wrote:

Come on Rickie Lambert! Show us you are a better no. 9 than El Hadji Diouf and Iagos Aspas!

That wouldn't be hard.

We really are the worst fans in the world.

michael999999

Exactly why I'm not on that face****e!

YouTookMyName

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Very good signing for West Ham to be honest. I have a lot of time for Cissokho...not quite good enough for us, but a hard working, decent defender.

Villa dude.

Mr Alan

I'm a fan of Rodgers. He has entirely won me over. But there is some truth in this post...

Quote: El-rufai Olawale
Brendan Rodgers is a good coach, no
doubt about it, but he has got it wrong
with his transfer dealings.

Lets take a look @ Rodgers transfers since
he took the helm @ ANFIELD hot seat in
2012. He signed 14 players, 2 on loan & 1
free. They are: Fabio Borini - £10m
Joe Allen - £15m
Oussama Assaidi - £2.4m
Shamed Yesil - £1m
Daniel Sturridge - £12m
Philippe Coutinho - £8.5
Tiago ILori - £7m
Mamadou Sakho - £18m
Simon Mignolet - £9m
Iago Aspas - £7.2m
Luis Alberto - £6.8m
All these totalling a whopping £97.4m.

With all these transfers only Sturridge &
Coutinho have made their mark, with
Mignolet & Sakho yet 2 live up 2
expectations. Meaning that Rodgers has
wasted a total of £49.9m on these 7 flops:
Borini, Allen, Assaidi, Yesil, ILori, Aspas &
Alberto.

This season Rodgers has continued in his
QUEST to sign MEDIOCRE players rather
than signing proven player.

Some of his recent signings are: Lallana(£25m), Can
(£10m), Markovic(£20m), Lovren(£20m),
Origi(£10m), Lambert(£4m) totalling £89m.

None of them are proven with only 1
season performance. Don't 4get when we
signed Suarez we were not in CL & he was
not a super star BT he was a goal machine
@ Ajax. This is type of players I except BR 2
b signing not d average ones. My question
is: Has Rodgers got it right or wrong in his
transfer dealings?

One of the things I'm unhappy about this summer is it the fact to a large extent we're paying "top class" money for players who haven't really proven they're top class. It seems incredibly risky to me. Riskier than it needs to be.

MD1990

Mr Alan wrote: »

I'm a fan of Rodgers. He has entirely won me over. But there is some truth in this post...



One of the things I'm unhappy about this summer is it the fact to a large extent we're paying "top class" money for players who haven't really proven they're top class. It seems incredibly risky to me. Riskier than it needs to be.

I think u have to wait before the new signings actually play some games before writing them off. Hard to know how many of the other signings were his or the comiteee

x43r0

Panthro wrote: »

His return is well over due...!

Kerrigooney

Mr Alan wrote: »

I'm a fan of Rodgers. He has entirely won me over. But there is some truth in this post...



One of the things I'm unhappy about this summer is it the fact to a large extent we're paying "top class" money for players who haven't really proven they're top class. It seems incredibly risky to me. Riskier than it needs to be.

I agree but the market seems hugely inflated this Summer. Everton just paid £28m for Lukaku ffs. Crazy. I imagine it's the new tv money coming into play.

It's hard to know if the figures we've heard are true anyway. Lallana has cost anything from £16m up to £25m so who knows.

Kerrigooney

MD1990 wrote: »

I think u have to wait before the new signings actually play some games before writing them off. Hard to know how many of the other signings were his or the comiteee

I don't think he wrote anyone off in that post tbh.

machiavellianme

martyos121 wrote: »

Can't wait to play Villa this season. Key to victory is to play everyone on the right .

Except Glen Johnson

NukaCola

Bottom line for me is BR deserves to build his own squad. He deserves to succeed or fail with his own squad.

We all may not agree with some signings but BR wanted them and I think he will make them fit in well.

tritium

Mr Alan wrote: »

I'm a fan of Rodgers. He has entirely won me over. But there is some truth in this post...



One of the things I'm unhappy about this summer is it the fact to a large extent we're paying "top class" money for players who haven't really proven they're top class. It seems incredibly risky to me. Riskier than it needs to be.

Except that of the 7 'flops' listed we're likely to make a profit on 2, a couple more still have the jury out andin any cases the outlay was relatively small. Only Aspas and Alberto really stand out as flops in there.

MD1990

Kerrigooney wrote: »

I don't think he wrote anyone off in that post tbh.

He quoted a post saying our new signings are medicore players. Thats writing them off imo.

spockety

Ffs, the analysis of Brendan Rodgers transfers and percentage of useful vs useless incoming players is utterly futile unless you provide a comparison with other managers and clubs.

Every single one of them gets it wrong and I would wager that the success rate is remarkably similar across all the top clubs.

tritium

machiavellianme wrote: »

Except Glen Johnson

I'd play him very very right

Somewhere near Paris should do it

mada999

tritium wrote: »

Except that of the 7 'flops' listed we're likely to make a profit on 2, a couple more still have the jury out andin any cases the outlay was relatively small. Only Aspas and Alberto really stand out as flops in there.

tbh I don't about signing players for decent money and then selling them a year later.. spend the bunce on better players and keep them is a better strategy in my book

Fescue

Fabio Borini - £10m....£4 million profit.

Joe Allen - £15m....Good squad player, certainly not a flop.

Oussama Assaidi - £2.4m....Going to make a profit here also I think.

Shamed Yesil - £1m....Injuries have set him back.

Daniel Sturridge - £12m....Massive success.

Philippe Coutinho - £8.5....Massive success.

Tiago ILori - £7m....Still deverloping.

Mamadou Sakho - £18m....Should be a solid defender going forward.

Simon Mignolet - £9m....Has done ok.

Iago Aspas - £7.2m....Flop.

Luis Alberto - £6.8m....Developing.

All these totalling a whopping £97.4m.

billy2012

tritium wrote: »

Except that of the 7 'flops' listed we're likely to make a profit on 2, a couple more still have the jury out andin any cases the outlay was relatively small. Only Aspas and Alberto really stand out as flops in there.

Alberto is only a kid. Think he will shine in Spain this season.

mada999

Fescue wrote: »

Fabio Borini - £10m....£4 million profit.

Joe Allen - £15m....Good squad player, certainly not a flop.

Oussama Assaidi - £2.4m....Going to make a profit here also I think.

Iago Aspas - £7.2m....Flop.

all flops if you ask me...Allen deffo not playing as well as he should be for that money..

plannerscanner

Thoughts so far:

The current signings are encouraging. Losing a player of Luis's talent is difficult but €75 does help to build a squad. I like Lovren and Lallana, am hopeful for Markovic and Moreno (pending) and worry a bit for Lambert and Manquillo. One perhaps too young and the other too sentimental. All in all a good transfer window so far.

But how much remains money wise and can it be put to good use? A back up keeper is now a necessity. Along with another striker. I'd like to be proven wrong in the Cavani talk but unlikely a superstar will be coming. My punt would be for Bony. He is a beast, has pace, strength and an eye for goal. Was impressed by him last year and he had a reasonable World Cup (not many other 9's can say that).

But what of next year. A fight for 3/4 the is on the cards with Arsenal and Man U. I truly believe we can win this battle but it's going to be a slog - with the squad in place and my faith in the manager I say... Let the games commence

cunnifferous

Wouldn't be too overwhelmed nor displeased with Bony. I read that he had been ruled out due to wage demands. Would have thought he'd be a low enough earner, anyone have any idea how much he is on/looking for?

~Rebel~

YouTookMyName wrote: »

Villa dude.

ha, pfft, same difference




(sorry, minor brain fart earlier - was multitasking while typing.)

Fescue

mada999 wrote: »

all flops if you ask me...Allen deffo not playing as well as he should be for that money..

If you want to say Allen is a flop for the money, throw in Mignolet and Sakho too.

ricero

More links to lavezzi tonight. Id prefer bony

klose

If rodgers keeps keeps getting results then he can spend whatever on whoever he wants tbh. Im surprised there is still people looking for a stick to beat him with.

mada999

Fescue wrote: »

If you want to say Allen is a flop for the money, throw in Mignolet and Sakho too.

not really, Allen has been here since 2012, Sakho has only played 18 games for us

Vinz Mesrine

klose wrote: »

If rodgers keeps keeps getting results then he can spend whatever on whoever he wants tbh. Im surprised there is still people looking for a stick to beat him with.

This,
This X 1000

I wish I could thank it more than once.

K-9

spockety wrote: »

Ffs, the analysis of Brendan Rodgers transfers and percentage of useful vs useless incoming players is utterly futile unless you provide a comparison with other managers and clubs.

Every single one of them gets it wrong and I would wager that the success rate is remarkably similar across all the top clubs.

We should just do a comparison to Rafa, really wreck heads. I think transfers under Rodgers are ok, with the 20 Million spent on Coutinho and Sturridge giving them the benefit doubt, 2 absolute bargains that all the top 4 and United would be envious of. The likes of Asaidi and Alberto wouldn't bother me , only punts really. Borini and Aspas the biggest disappointments so far.

8-10

I can't believe there are people underwhelmed with signing Lovren. Honestly think he could go on to be a club hero. Top defender and few better than him last season.

Super-Rush

klose wrote: »

If rodgers keeps keeps getting results then he can spend whatever on whoever he wants tbh. Im surprised there is still people looking for a stick to beat him with.

Some people are still sore that Rafa didn't get the job.

klose

klose wrote: »

If rodgers keeps keeps getting results then he can spend whatever on whoever he wants tbh. Im surprised there is still people looking for a stick to beat him with.

Is anyone actually criticising Rodgers.

The transfers have been patchy the past few years, that's a fact. We were lucky and so was Rodgers to have one of the best players in the world at the club.

On the flip side Suarez was also lucky to have a manager playing to his strengths.

Personally I think we are a few players short of a CL place atm

K-9

I wouldn't really call Allen a bad transfer or a flop, that's over dramatic and lazy thinking. He's done fine, unlucky with injuries but it his third season here, it took that for Henderson to show us what he can do. We probably over paid a bit but a useful squad player at the least.

Fescue

mada999 wrote: »

not really, Allen has been here since 2012, Sakho has only played 18 games for us

I don't agree Allen has been a flop. He has had some excellent games for us and continues to improve.

Harry Palmr

mada999 wrote: »

tbh I don't about signing players for decent money and then selling them a year later.. spend the bunce on better players and keep them is a better strategy in my book

Chelsea do and they have shown how you work the FFP system.

Alberto is probably going to be a case in point for Liverpool, didn't get much of chance last season. Loaned to Malaga he has already knocked in 3 or 4 goals in pre-season. If he has a good season and a Liga team want him Liverpool will probably turn a handy 3/4 million profit. That might not seem much but do that 3 times every summer and you've gone some way to buying a 20 million quid type without damaging the clubs finances within FFP. Assaidi looks like turning a handy profit, I bet Canos and Chivrella will be others who follow this path.