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Where should the next city in Ireland be?

  • 28-07-2014 11:26pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭


    So there are currently 11 cities in Ireland, 5 in the north and 6 in the south (although Kilkenny is not an administrative city and Belfast and Dublin are the only 'real' cities by world standards:P )

    Based on population and not being strictly speaking a suburb, Bangor (58,000) and Drogheda (38,000) would be the next cities but what place do think deserves to be a city?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    Drogheda! City on the Boyne. Every Drog has it's day. Who let the Drogs out? Who who who who who who... Etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    Sligo. The jewel of the northwest


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Cork.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 499 ✭✭greenflash


    Ireland just about has the population for two cities. Everything else from Cork down is a town no regardless of cathedrals, charters or whatever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    greenflash wrote: »
    Ireland just about has the population for two cities. Everything else from Cork down is a town no regardless of cathedrals, charters or whatever.
    Cark isnt a city, its just a big-ish town


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭jamesbere


    Cark isnt a city, its just a big-ish town

    Blasphemy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    Dun Laoghaire.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 499 ✭✭greenflash


    Cark isnt a city, its just a big-ish town

    Thanks for backing me up on that.

    (Dublin and Belfast are the only two real cities on the island)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭John Doe1


    Sligo. The jewel of the northwest

    Sligo people seem to think it is a city already, there is the Sligo City Hotel I believe, can anyone shed any light on that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Sligo of course

    Whatever happened to your 'wan' who would extol the virtues of that town?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    Put it on an island.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Sulla Felix


    I think we should get in ahead of the pack and have one of those mega-cities like Lagos. An combination of intensive breeding and building works could see us there by 2025.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    I'd say its time to upgrade Dublin from shit hole to city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭nordydan


    Downpatrick. Home of the patron saint.

    And it has an ASDA


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    wazky wrote: »
    What about intensive in-breeding?, if that were the case alot of Irish towns and villages are very advanced.

    Offaly springs to mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,813 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Bray is the 9th largest urban area in Ireland after Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Galway, Waterford, Drogheda, Dundalk and Swords.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,681 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Sligo of course

    Whatever happened to your 'wan' who would extol the virtues of that town?

    We had her silenced. Say nathin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,396 ✭✭✭Frosty McSnowballs


    Super-Rush wrote: »
    I'd say its time to upgrade Dublin from shit hole to city.

    Says yer man that puts the 'low' in Carlow. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,216 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Tallaght, it could be moved offshore like L.A. in Escape from L.A., or underground, or we could just burn it to the ground, what was the question again?!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Dundalk!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,394 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Tubbercurry obviously


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    Dundalk!

    Heh.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 17 i r legend


    greenflash wrote: »
    Ireland just about has the population for two cities. Everything else from Cork down is a town no regardless of cathedrals, charters or whatever.
    Ireland needs more regional centralisation tbh not to create more small cities. Cark wouldn't even count as a city as it is. We should be pushing to expand Cork,Limerick,Waterford and Galway as MAJOR regional population hubs and moving away from the backwards quasi rural towns that dot the landscape. Maybe a new one in the midlands? But they'd wreck it and have cowdung all over the lovely glass office buildings in a few days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭major bill


    Wexford Town was always a decent spot

    Wexford City has a ring to it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 499 ✭✭greenflash


    i r legend wrote: »
    Ireland needs more regional centralisation tbh not to create more small cities. Cark wouldn't even count as a city as it is. We should be pushing to expand Cork,Limerick,Waterford and Galway as MAJOR regional population hubs and moving away from the backwards quasi rural towns that dot the landscape. Maybe a new one in the midlands? But they'd wreck it and have crowding all over the lovely glass office buildings in a few days.

    Is anyone actually able to read?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    major bill wrote: »
    Wexford Town was always a decent spot

    Wexford City has a ring to it
    One of the finest pubs in Ireland; Thomas Moore is there. Wexford is a cracking place


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭Christy Browne


    There are no guidelines for cities, you can't say they're not "real" cities and these ones are


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,557 ✭✭✭KeithM89


    Heh.

    Says the man who nominated Chernobyl Drogheda.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 17 i r legend


    greenflash wrote: »
    Isi anyone actually able to read?
    Yeah yer mudder


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭John Doe1


    Anyone remember the whole National Spatial Strategy Gateway City thing?

    Letterkenny, Sligo, Dundalk and 3 midlands towns joined together were meant to made into cities by with a population of nearly 100,000 for each by 2020, its not going well :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,320 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Nowhere.
    "Drogheda City". Jesus wept.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,681 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    John Doe1 wrote: »
    Anyone remember the whole National Spatial Strategy Gateway City thing?

    Letterkenny, Sligo, Dundalk and 3 midlands towns joined together were meant to made into cities by with a population of nearly 100,000 for each by 2020, its not going well :P

    Ze breeding program will continue unabated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    greenflash wrote: »
    Thanks for backing me up on that.

    (Dublin and Belfast are the only two real cities on the island)

    Ah, feck it, I got bored lining stuff through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    KeithM89 wrote: »
    Says the man who nominated Chernobyl Drogheda.

    Here's a file photo of the dundalk town service bus on signing-on day:

    a.aaa-Cramped-in-a-bus.jpg

    City status? Ya reckon?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Vincent Vega


    Seamróg city.
    I like giraffes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Would be better off trying to bring our existing ****ty cities up to actual city standard before making new ones, Waterford is as ****ty as Detroit and as for Kilkenny, the place is like an industrial ghost town with one street of pubs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,561 ✭✭✭Duff


    I'm all for Dundalk being turned into a city although, 'C'mon the city' hasn't got the same ring to it..


  • Registered Users Posts: 252 ✭✭A Greedy Algorithm


    Waterford or Kilkenny.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 4,621 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. G


    Ennis :)

    Bigger than Kilkenny by population. A lot of the largest urban centres are too close to other cities, e.g. Swords, Drogheda etc. I think over the next few years the population of Ennis will rise. My conspiracy theories never fail.


  • Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    John Doe1 wrote: »
    Sligo people seem to think it is a city already, there is the Sligo City Hotel I believe, can anyone shed any light on that?
    I can confirm there being a Sligo City Hotel alright, for a gang of us stayed there weekend before last for a stag... and to be fair, it was a good hotel and great night!

    From what I remember anyway :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,127 ✭✭✭✭kerry4sam


    Cark isnt a city, its just a big-ish town
    greenflash wrote: »
    Thanks for backing me up on that.

    (Dublin and Belfast are the only two real cities on the island)

    I'd agree with you on Cork, but you're forgetting the City we have here in Kerry though:

    Currow City: It covers all of 3,376 Hectares if you don't mind! They have their own 5-aside soccer team (see here) ; and , and you can't argue with this guy: look at this!

    Now, their is some more geography for you on another City in Ireland :)
    kerry4sam


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Oops69


    Anything that's artificially' made' into a city or a Newtown always turns out to be a ****hole ,eg , Canberra , Brasilia, Milton Keynes , Shannon , just let nature take its course planners!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,585 ✭✭✭✭Lady Chatterton


    Mr. G wrote: »
    Ennis :)

    Bigger than Kilkenny by population. A lot of the largest urban centres are too close to other cities, e.g. Swords, Drogheda etc. I think over the next few years the population of Ennis will rise. My conspiracy theories never fail.
    I want Ennis to remain a town, Mr. G - anyways the streets are so narrow you can shake hands with people on the other side of the road. It's not called 'the friendliest town in Ireland' for nothing ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭Tedddy


    There is no need for more there is enough as there is. We don't need more, we need bigger cities for more efficient services instead of small towns and one off housing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Cork just seems to be a load of housing estates and large town in the middle. The same with Galway. I think Tallaght is as much of a City than those 2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭ardle1


    Here's a file photo of the dundalk town service bus on signing-on day:

    a.aaa-Cramped-in-a-bus.jpg

    City status? Ya reckon?

    AHHHHHHHH HA HA HA,
    it's really a picture of the Drogheda supporters club trying to get away when they seen the Dundalk supporters coming their way lol lol :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Joe Doe


    Simply frack and flatten the midlands, then build a huge Dubai type city like a phoenix from the dust. also extend cork/kerry out towards the gulf stream for better surfing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Can we get a list of the 11 cities? And what is meant by Kilkenny not being an "administrative city"?

    I've heard lots of different theories over the years as to what makes a city - charter, has a cathedral, population....

    Dublin
    Cork
    Limerick
    Galway
    Waterford
    Kilkenny

    Belfast
    Derry
    Armagh
    Lisburn
    Newry

    (I had to check the last 3 on Wikipedia)

    Next city should be Sligo...maybe. Or maybe Athlone - sort the Midlands out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,742 ✭✭✭✭Wichita Lineman


    Athmullamore City could be formed by joining Athlone, Mullingar and Tullamore together.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    ^The Midlands Conurbation


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