Scumbags jailed for attacking tourists

miece16

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Spring Onion

Barely There wrote: »

You're wrong.

The 'streets' are safer than they've ever been and getting safer. All crime statistics point to this, but I presume it doesn't suit your 'we're breeding a generation of psychos' worldview.

statistics eh...:rolleyes:

Idbatterim

Not a day goes by without some thread in AH about Dublin scumbags getting up to this and that.
Decent folk of Dublin, please sort your scumbag problem out pronto.

Are you mad, sure its my fault, your fault, anyone but the ordinary decent perpetrators!

miece16

stevedublin wrote: »

It, an utter disgrace, is.

what a fail

geeksauce

Idbatterim wrote: »

No, his reputation has already taken a hit, get the money back and also fine him a multiple of of the fraud. Then use it to incarcerate the actual scum. We obviously have a massive problem with prison spaces here, I know who I think should be occupying them! If there wasnt a jail space issue, I would say yeah throw him (Callely) in prison, but as there is, there should be a pecking order and the few thousand in theft is a fraction of the monetary value if you can even put one on it, of even one of the assaults that these scum inflicted on their god knows how many victims!

There wouldn't be a jail space issue if they just shoved them all into jail, now they have 2 people to a cell, throw a few foam mattresses on the floor and you get 4 or maybe even more in there. That has doubled the population instantly, could even throw a few more of the mattresses on the floors in the corridors for the night probably get ten times the amount in prisons that way.

Idbatterim

There wouldn't be a jail space issue if they just shoved them all into jail, now they have 2 people to a cell, throw a few foam mattresses on the floor and you get 4 or maybe even more in there. That has doubled the population instantly, could even throw a few more of the mattresses on the floors in the corridors for the night probably get ten times the amount in prisons that way.

True, when you read about the conditions in Peru where Melissa Reid and Michaella McCollum are being held, it really does sound horrific! I'd say criminals would take 5 years here, rather than one year there!

Or put up some Jurassic Park like permiter fence encircling god knows how many acres, throw them a tent and clean water, basic food twice a day! Scum off the streets at minimal cost and with a serious deterrent...

jjbrien

Idbatterim wrote: »

True, when you read about the conditions in Peru where Melissa Reid and Michaella McCollum are being held, it really does sound horrific! I'd say criminals would take 5 years here, rather than one year there!

Or put up some Jurassic Park like permiter fence encircling god knows how many acres, throw them a tent and clean water, basic food twice a day! Scum off the streets at minimal cost and with a serious deterrent...

Sounds a bit like escape from LA or escape from new york

We should just reopen spike island and just maroon them out there

Red Pepper

Dublin needs to seriously get it's act together. I seem to be reading about tourists getting attacked or robbed every other day. The dangerous zombieland that Dublin is becoming will result in less tourism dollars for the best parts of Ireland.

I don't give a fiddlers on how Dublin compares to any other city in any other country, just get it sorted. It seems like the tourists are the only one doing any public intervention these days - the Dublin residents just suck it up or ignore it.

stmol32

listermint wrote: »

.... take a walk around our capital city any time of day and witness the drunks and takers and pushers hanging around on our multi million Euro Boardwalks, designed to bring the liffey 'closer to you'

How can you possibly be so irresponsible as to recommend we take a walk around the city when you know doing that means at least 90% of us will be murdered, raped and mugged (in that order).

Guy:Incognito

Moat_Cailin wrote: »

Up to 69 convictions and never been sent to prison, sure why wouldn't they assault who they like. Country made it pretty clear they can act like thugs if that suits them.

Has Gerry Adams been as for his opinion on this?

hairybelly

3 to 5 years and out in less than half that no doubt.

El Weirdo

hairybelly wrote: »

3 to 5 years and out in less than half that no doubt.

Rubbish.

Any one got any answers as to how they and others like them should be dealt with,.... thats are not of the hang em and flog em Varity.. nor of the Marxist class politics Varity that says its all cause by depravation.

cloud493

Its ridiculous to suggest they should be shot or hanged or chained together, obviously. But there does need to be harsher sentences, more gardai, more resources to the gardai that are already there, with more power given to them, more deterrents, and maybe just letting that kind of person know that sort of stuff isn't acceptable. The more they 'get away with it' relatively, the more they'll try. Give an inch take a mile etc.

Crann na Beatha

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Hotfail.com

mariaalice wrote: »

Any one got any answers as to how they and others like them should be dealt with,.... thats are not of the hang em and flog em Varity.. nor of the Marxist class politics Varity that says its all cause by depravation.

If any scummy behaviour was nipped in the bud it would sort out a lot of the trouble imo.

cloud493

You actually notice in town (Dublin) when there is Gardai around, on O'Connell street, Henry street, Moore street, the number of scumbags and thus 'threatening' behaviour is right down. How about that.

any1butdublin3

that's Dublin for you

circadian

Ship them off to Oz.

Arthur Beesley

Hotfail.com wrote: »

And people go to jail on their first offence for avoiding paying their tv license... :rolleyes:

I think I'll become a scumbag, sounds like good craic and it looks like they get away with everything.

You've done your leaving cert though, right?

So the judge won't see you as disadvantaged.

Hotfail.com

Arthur Beesley wrote: »

You've done your leaving cert though, right?

So the judge won't see you as disadvantaged.

Ah sh*t I'll come up with something :pac:

Frank Lee Midere

I blame we as a society. The 52% marginal tax on workers wages needs to be at least 80% or this will continue.

DildoFaggins

cloud493 wrote: »

Its ridiculous to suggest they should be shot or hanged or chained together, obviously. But there does need to be harsher sentences, more gardai, more resources to the gardai that are already there, with more power given to them, more deterrents, and maybe just letting that kind of person know that sort of stuff isn't acceptable. The more they 'get away with it' relatively, the more they'll try. Give an inch take a mile etc.

The Gardai won't be given any resource to deal with anything will they though?
The country is a mess from top to bottom.

cloud493

No probably not, sadly.

Red Pepper

Heard on radio today that 83% of all attacks on tourists in Ireland took place in Dublin City Centre. Says a lot about how we have let the city centre deteriorate so much in recent years.

doolox

...which is why slavery as an institution has died out in the Western world.
The amount of cajoling, training, developing etc that would be needed to get a junkie or violent perpetrator to do 12 hrs of effective honest manual labour would make the whole exercise so expensive as to be completely unsustainable.

Which is why we build roads bulidings etc with freely engaged, mechanised and properly financed labour.

A lot of other countries tried slave labour and it required a huge amount of expensive supervision and coercion to get any effective output from it.

Prisons built from slave labour would collapse. How would you test and supervise their effective construction. Putting building hand tools in the hands of violent criminals would be a nightmare to police and control.

wahesh32

It's a shame this has happened, and that the tourists might have some long term effects from the assault. But the reaction here is kind of weird. I mean, if the tourists had done the same thing in a major city of the US, they would have been shot/killed instead of just beaten.

Ireland is a safe place, so is Dublin. From http /www .oecdbetterlifeindex. org/countries/ireland/
(I don't have enough posts to post the URL)

In Ireland, 2.6% of people reported falling victim to assault over the previous 12 months, less than the OECD average of 3.9%. There is a 1 percentage point difference between men and women in assault rates, at respectively 2.1% and 3.1%.

The homicide rate (the number of murders per 100,000 inhabitants) is a more reliable measure of a country’s safety level because, unlike other crimes, murders are usually always reported to the police. According to the latest OECD data, Ireland’s homicide rate is 0.8, lower than the OECD average of 4.1. In Ireland, the homicide rate for men is 1.4 compared with 0.2 for women.

I'm sure having a slightly higher police presence within the city centre would help, but I don't think the country needs drastic changes. It's expensive to keep someone in prison anyway (I think it's over 65,000 euros a year per inmate). I think Ireland is doing a lot right here. The fact that individual attacks make front page news implies there's not a whole lot to report on.