Protestors disrupting World War 1 commemoration at Glasnevin

bumper234

end of the road

Hunterbiker wrote: »

Any excuse to bash:
The Queen / Lizzie / Mrs Windsor..
The PNSI
The Britush Army
The British
The English
The North
etc etc etc...

my problem is with the british government and army, and i see the royal family as pointless

jjbrien

end of the road wrote: »

they are not our cousins unless they are directly related, they gave us the lone because were intitled to it as compensation for the murdering of civilians by the BA during the troubles. the fact we have things in common means nothing as nobody is discussing the british people but the government and military

Get over it we were not entitled to anything. The troubles are a thing of the past even the queen apologized and as other posters have said stood to our national anthem. What more must she do to say sorry? Like really

This was to remeber the dead and those men were not involved in the troubles. A good chunk of them fought and died afterwards for Irish Independence.

Jesus.

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Freedom to protest and freedom of speech? Yep, I'd be ok with it. I wouldn't approve of it, but I'd respect their right to make a protest.

Right beside the fukking GPO? What if it was the Orange Order that were booing and heckling in two years time at the Centenary? During the minutes silence all you hear is chants of "terrorists" and "murderers" in reference to the 1916 leaders.

You'd be A okay with that?

Amirani

Strazdas wrote: »

It's surely one of the worst stunts Irish republicans have ever pulled.

Well, some of them have killed people and stuff...

end of the road

jjbrien wrote: »

Get over it

by telling one to "get over it" you condone the murder of civilians in northern ireland, so no, i won't.

jjbrien wrote: »

we were not entitled to anything.

we were

jjbrien wrote: »

the queen apologized

her duty to do so for the murder carried out in her name

Hunterbiker

end of the road wrote: »

our city being in lockdown for an irrelevant old woman and a war criminal isn't okay, they should have both come for a day and went home if they had to come

So irrelevant you can't seem to stop mentioning her. And diverts some from a hard day in the Dublin pubs to protest
Like I said Obama was okay then...

knird evol

The man who invented crosswords is buried in Glasnevin Cemetary.

end of the road

Jesus. wrote: »

Right beside the fukking GPO? What if it was the Orange Order that were booing and heckling in two years time at the Centenary? During the minutes silence all you hear is chants of "terrorists" and "murderers" in reference to the 1916 leaders.

You'd be A okay with that?

i hardly think the orange order will be let down here again thankfully after what happened last time

jjbrien

end of the road wrote: »

by telling one to "get over it" you condone the murder of civilians in northern ireland, so no, i won't.



we were



her duty to do so for the murder carried out in her name

What has any of this got to do with the soldiers who died in WW1 and WW2? These men were long dead and buried before any of that happened. My grandfather was never involved in the north like all of these men who where being honored today.

end of the road

Hunterbiker wrote: »

So irrelevant you can't seem to stop mentioning her. And diverts some from a hard day in the Dublin pubs to protest
Like I said Obama was okay then...

no, he's a war criminal in my opinion

Hunterbiker

end of the road wrote: »

no, he's a war criminal in my opinion

At least we agree on that then

Happyman42

Jesus. wrote: »

Another poster who conveniently didn't hear the main speech of the occasion. Go and replay the President's speech or get a transcript and then come back and amend your misleading post.

It's called 'lipservice'...when I see Michael D and the rest of the establishment parties at the graves of all republicans then I will stand alongside them in their 'wish' to honour all the fallen in wars and conflict.

Shakespeare's Sister

LordSutch wrote: »

Will be interesting to see if they pop up on this thread. (hopefully they wont).

But you said it'd be interesting to see if they pop up on this thread, so I'd say what you actually mean is "hopefully they will".

Anyhow, back on topic and agenda-pushing aside: repulsive stunt by this crowd. WWI involved endless numbers of young men (some of them only boys) being sent to their deaths by powerful bureaucrats behind mahogany desks. Any man/boy who went out there to the trenches deserves respect for what they sacrificed - their lives, on behalf of others'.

MonsterCookie

end of the road wrote: »

i hardly think the orange order will be let down here again thankfully after what happened last time

Double standards

Pumpkinseeds

Sinn Fein would protest the opening of an envelope if they thought it would get them media attention. Bunch of shameless attention whores. The people who voted for them only have themselves to blame. They should have been left in the gutter, where they belong.

budsalt

Magaggie wrote: »

But you said it'd be interesting to see if they pop up on this thread, so I'd say what you actually mean is "hopefully they will".

Anyhow, back on topic and agenda-pushing aside: repulsive stunt by this crowd. WWI involved endless numbers of young men (some of them only boys) being sent to their deaths by powerful bureaucrats behind mahogany desks. Any man/boy who went out there to the trenches deserves respect for what they sacrificed - their lives, on behalf of others'.

During the battle of the Somme the 16th Irish Division suffered losses of 224 officers and 4,090 men; despite these very heavy losses the division gained a reputation as first-class shock troops.

I think men like these deserve a minuet's silence and a little respect.

Happyman42

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

the opening of an envelope.

Royals would probably turn up at it, if it meant their 'privilege subvention' was continued.

wicklowstevo

its no longer amazing how some misguided people can defend the indefensible ........

keeponhurling

Mosby61 wrote: »

This is hilarious. The conflict is over, when will some understand? The Queen has been in the Republic and paid respects in commemoration and even stood for the Irish national anthem. Higgins has been to the UK and met her majesty.

There is absolutely no excuse to still carry on with this attitude that British people from Northern Ireland or the rest of the UK or the British Army are the bad guys and should be opposed.

When will you ever move on? The Queen can not do any more to heal divisions. These Republican lunatics who have twisted Wolfe Tones view and have an aggressive ideology don't want peace but to make sure the last "Brit" is forced to the sea.

No excuse for that attitude now.

That's fine that you are now entirely comfortable with British army actions, both in Ireland and overseas.
Bloody Sunday, Iraq , Afghanistan etc.
Good for you.

However some are still not entirely satisfied with their actions, and indeed many civilians are not around to have a view.

"No excuse for that attitude now",
Are you the thought police ?

One of the most condescending posts I've seen for a while

tomwaterford

budsalt wrote: »

During the battle of the Somme the 16th Irish Division suffered losses of 224 officers and 4,090 men; despite these very heavy losses the division gained a reputation as first-class shock troops.

I think men like these deserve a minuet's silence and a little respect.

I agree....they deserve there respect

there is no defending some of what went on today (booing a mins silence FFS)

but it deos stick in the troats of many the way the state can find time and money to commerate british soldiers (though many that returned went on to serve with the ira-so they cannot all be condemned...anyone that glorifies it should be condemned though)
and the state cannot find the money to refurbish/upkeep old ira monuments around the country...but will glady seek out to disrupt/antagonise those that fundraise for upkeep and repair of those monuments

budsalt

wicklowstevo wrote: »

its no longer amazing how some misguided people can defend the indefensible ........

Not sure who you are referring to, could you be a little more precise please?

wicklowstevo

budsalt wrote: »

Not sure who you are referring to, could you be a little more precise please?

people who jeer and abuse the Irish president at a service for Irish war dead in Ireland .
deserve neither respect, acknowledgment or to be defended. and anyone who thinks otherwise is simply wrong ,

clear enough for ya is it ?

bumper234

Happyman42 wrote: »

Royals would probably turn up at it, if it meant their 'privilege subvention' was continued.

They wouldn't need to, Lizzie would already be there on the stamp!














(I'll get me coat)

tomwaterford

wicklowstevo wrote: »

people who jeer and abuse the Irish president at a service for Irish war dead in Ireland .
deserve neither respect, acknowledgment or to be defended. and anyone who thinks otherwise is simply wrong ,

clear enough for ya is it ?

hmm....while not agreeing with jeering/abusing anyone....you do have a broad definition of irish war dead

Shakespeare's Sister

wicklowstevo wrote: »

people who jeer and abuse the Irish president at a service for Irish war dead in Ireland .
deserve neither respect, acknowledgment or to be defended. and anyone who thinks otherwise is simply wrong ,

clear enough for ya is it ?

Yes, it's clear now. But it was a fair question to ask. Vague posts are pointless.

budsalt

wicklowstevo wrote: »

people who jeer and abuse the Irish president at a service for Irish war dead in Ireland .
deserve neither respect, acknowledgment or to be defended. and anyone who thinks otherwise is simply wrong ,

clear enough for ya is it ?

Yes,that's clear enough thank you, and in fact I support what you say.

wicklowstevo

tomwaterford wrote: »

hmm....while not agreeing with jeering/abusing anyone....you do have a broad definition of irish war dead

i guess i may , but then again Irish people have been wars all over the world for all sorts of reasons on all sorts of sides such as both sides of the american civil war Spanish civil war etc

Jesus.

end of the road wrote: »

i hardly think the orange order will be let down here again thankfully after what happened last time

Great dodge and way to show yourself up as a hypocrite!

Typical narrow-minded armchair Provey

Nodin

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

Sinn Fein would protest the opening of an envelope if they thought it would get them media attention. Bunch of shameless attention whores. The people who voted for them only have themselves to blame. They should have been left in the gutter, where they belong.

It wasn't Sinn Fein.

MJ23

A few greasy stoners with nothing else to do.
Idiots.

Fratton Fred

Nodin wrote: »

It wasn't Sinn Fein.

Try caps, you might get heard.

keeponhurling

Jesus. wrote: »

Great dodge and way to show yourself up as a hypocrite!

Typical narrow-minded armchair Provey

Yes. Anyone who doesn't want another orange match in Dublin = typical narrow minded armchair provey

Jesus.

keeponhurling wrote: »

Yes. Anyone who doesn't want another orange match in Dublin = typical narrow minded armchair provey

Go back to the initial exchange on the last page instead of jumping in half-cocked and you'll see who actually agrees with the point you've just made.

any1butdublin3

I am a republican and I have 4 ancestors who died in the war, they came from a nationalist family and some of the brothers were even in the IRA.
In modern Ireland all the British Army WW1 celebrations comes hand in hand with being Anglo-Irish, many of the men who died weren't Anglo-Irish or unionist.

I don't agree with the protestors but republicans have a right to be against it.

Young Blood

Can you believe Theresa Valliers was at this? The same woman who earlier this year denied an inquest into the Ballymurphy Massacre. Shocking.

Tony EH

Madam wrote: »

For the life of me I don't understand why we need to commemorate a war that happened 100 years ago...

Because it was one of two of the most devastating wars to happen on the planet and it affect the lives of millions of people maybe?

There are less important things that are commemorated.

any1butdublin3

P_1 wrote: »

Irish republicans always seemed to have found grasping the precise definition of the word 'republic' a tricky one to master.

Lads you don't represent me, you don't represent an awful lot of the people living here, kindly fcuk off.

but to be fair it was young hoolies like that who were in the IRA in the 20's as well

Strazdas

any1butdublin3 wrote: »

I am a republican and I have 4 ancestors who died in the war, they came from a nationalist family and some of the brothers were even in the IRA.
In modern Ireland all the British Army WW1 celebrations comes hand in hand with being Anglo-Irish, many of the men who died weren't Anglo-Irish or unionist.

I don't agree with the protestors but republicans have a right to be against it.

There's no problem with them being opposed to the WW1 commemoration. If they had staged a silent protest outside Glasnevin today, it would have been absolutely fine, but shouting and heckling during a solemn memorial service was disgraceful.

Happyman42

Young Blood wrote: »

Can you believe Theresa Valliers was at this? The same woman who earlier this year denied an inquest into the Ballymurphy Massacre. Shocking.

And who tried to stop a republican commemoration of their dead recently too.

any1butdublin3

fleet_admiral wrote: »

I tolerated the shinners before today, now I absolutely hate them

everyone in my family and most in the townland vote for sinn fein and they weren't protesting today, quit with the bigotry

Young Blood

Can you believe Theresa Valliers was at this? The same woman who earlier this year denied an inquest into the Ballymurphy Massacre. Shocking.

P_1

keeponhurling wrote: »

That's fine that you are now entirely comfortable with British army actions, both in Ireland and overseas.
Bloody Sunday, Iraq , Afghanistan etc.
Good for you.

However some are still not entirely satisfied with their actions, and indeed many civilians are not around to have a view.

"No excuse for that attitude now",
Are you the thought police ?

One of the most condescending posts I've seen for a while

What is the point in defining your life based on the squabbles of past generations though?

Luke92

My uncle is one of these rent a protesters! All the same. Protesting Gaza now. He protests everything! Gaza, water charges, EU/IMF, republican prisoners being strip searched. You name it he protests it. ****ing sickens me! Him and his wife and now they have brainwashed their daughter who is the same. So there's another generation of them coming!

He shared an article on Facebook and in it a prisoner (POW) likened being strip searched to rape. That just came across as a huge insult to any victim of rape. Total idiots.

any1butdublin3

P_1 wrote: »

What is the point in defining your life based on the squabbles of past generations though?

The Bloody Sunday generation are still alive and so are the soldiers who did it, providing he's talking about the 1972 bloody sunday

P_1

any1butdublin3 wrote: »

The Bloody Sunday generation are still alive and so are the soldiers who did it, providing he's talking about the 1972 bloody sunday

Yes but what's the point in bearing such a grudge? We speak the same language, shop in mostly the same shops, support and play mostly the same sports, listen to the same music and mostly follow the same illogical bronze age text that has one or two insignificant differences.

I'm sorry but I'm not going to hate somebody who happens to live in England because of what happened in Derry years before I was born.

any1butdublin3

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Is it not a good thing that our British now want to actively commemorate our war dead?

But just look how the army were treating N.Ireland catholics just a couple of decades ago, many of those catholics had grandfathers, etc who fought in WW1, it is a pity they couldn't show some respect and compassion when marching like thugs around the streets of N.Ireland

any1butdublin3

P_1 wrote: »

I'm sorry but I'm not going to hate somebody who happens to live in England because of what happened in Derry years before I was born.

Yes neither am I but it doesn't mean I will ever respect that army, even in 20-30 years I still won't respect it, or the royal family.

wazky

Protesters were utterly in the wrong today.

But I think alot of people are using this action by about 20 so called republicans as a stick to beat Sinn Fein/ nationalists with, the views of 20 people are not that of the majoirty of nationalists.

Kermit.de.frog

The vast majority of the Irish population are nationalist. If they weren't we wouldn't be living in a republic. These "protesters" most definitely do not represent the views of the vast majority of the Irish people.