Motor tax fine for not displaying disc

PrettyBoy

keithclancy wrote: »

If you think Ireland is bad, Germany is completely ass backwards in comparison.

How does the German system work?

corktina

Dowl88 wrote: »

High horse brigade in full swing I see. All OP wanted to know could he get out of paying the fine. All I see is smart high horse answers.

Unfortunately OP u cant really get out of it. Tis a pain allright. Maybe worth giving them a ring and see but very doubtful.

He's already appealed and been rejected. Shame you didn't read the thread before slagging us all off as HH jockeys.

Dowl88

corktina wrote: »

He's already appealed and been rejected. Shame you didn't read the thread before slagging us all off as HH jockeys.

Okay

Jesus.

Dowl88 wrote: »

High horse brigade in full swing I see. All OP wanted to know could he get out of paying the fine.

Indeed. One guy tells us that if someone told him a way to avoid paying a fine he'd still go ahead and pay it!

djimi wrote: »

The OP was driving illegally. Are you disputing this fact? Or do you not like to hear it pointed out?I do the same myself; my tax expired at the end of last month and I only paid it yesterday so for the next few days until the disc arrives I will be driving around illegally also. **** happens, but if I get caught and fined I wont be coming on here looking for ways to avoid the fine.

Dowl88

Jesus. wrote: »

Indeed. One guy tells us that if someone told him a way to avoid paying a fine he'd still go ahead and pay it!

Lol

wonski

Jesus. wrote: »

Indeed. One guy tells us that if someone told him a way to avoid paying a fine he'd still go ahead and pay it!

That's not what he said.

djimi

I see Jesus is referring to me there? I knew there was a reason I put them on ignore...

Cleveland Hot Pocket

djimi wrote: »

I see Jesus is referring to me there? I knew there was a reason I put them on ignore...

What a mature retort

bucketybuck

Jesus. wrote: »

Indeed. One guy tells us that if someone told him a way to avoid paying a fine he'd still go ahead and pay it!

Try reading for comprehension.

Bio Mech

This forum has really gone to the dogs lately. Every thread seems to degenerate into pointless sniping and pedantry. Such a shame as there are some good contributors.

And please spare me the "if you don't like it don't read it" retort. Its hard to avoid when its on every thread.

wonski

Bio Mech wrote: »

This forum has really gone to the dogs lately. Every thread seems to degenerate into pointless sniping and pedantry. Such a shame as there are some good contributors.

And please spare me the "if you don't like it don't read it" retort. Its hard to avoid when its on every thread.

The main problem is that half of the posts are about fines, gosafe vans and cheap insurance. They are part of the motoring forum, but there are very few posts about actual cars these days. Some posters react in this way to the very same threads popping up every few hours.

Not looking for an excuse, but this makes sense.

listermint

wonski wrote: »

The main problem is that half of the posts are about fines, gosafe vans and cheap insurance. They are part of the motoring forum, but there are very few posts about actual cars these days. Some posters react in this way to the very same threads popping up every few hours.

Not looking for an excuse, but this makes sense.

The actual car ones are moved into 'buying' Boooo. two clicks away from luxobarge


Anyway OT .



:P

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Bio Mech wrote: »

This forum has really gone to the dogs lately. Every thread seems to degenerate into pointless sniping and pedantry. Such a shame as there are some good contributors.

And please spare me the "if you don't like it don't read it" retort. Its hard to avoid when its on every thread.

Yeah, it's really gone downhill since March of this year

EazyD

Bio Mech wrote: »

This forum has really gone to the dogs lately. Every thread seems to degenerate into pointless sniping and pedantry. Such a shame as there are some good contributors.

And please spare me the "if you don't like it don't read it" retort. Its hard to avoid when its on every thread.

Make no mistake, it originates from both sides. On one side it's the "ah sure be grand, don't mind the high horse brigade(a lazy retort that's all too common) and the "shame on you, deserve to get hammered for your mistake". It's a blight to the forum as a whole

Bio Mech

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

Yeah, it's really gone downhill since March of this year

Yes when I deleted my old user account which I had since 2009 and set up this one. I was reborn but with the knowledge of my past life.

bucketybuck

wonski wrote: »

The main problem is that half of the posts are about fines, gosafe vans and cheap insurance.

The main problem is that half the posts are about breaking the law and trying to find a way out of paying the consequences.

Bio Mech

bucketybuck wrote: »

The main problem is that half the posts are about breaking the law and trying to find a way out of paying the consequences.

Even posting about the constant bickering leads to more bickering. Anyway..

keithclancy

bucketybuck wrote: »

The main problem is that half the posts are about breaking the law and trying to find a way out of paying the consequences.

The problem is the reply is usually about teaching them some sort of moral internet lesson, when actually they could just not reply or give some decent advice.

Some people on the internet be crazy.

listermint

Taking Each post at a time. They are the INTERNET CRUSADERS.. yeaaaaarrrrrrrrr

Jesus.

djimi wrote: »

I see Jesus is referring to me there? I knew there was a reason I put them on ignore...

Ignoring Jesus? Feckin' Heathen

Henry Ford III

Jesus. wrote: »

Ignoring Jesus? Feckin' Heathen

I switched to the other crowd. They have a dedidcated switching team

filbert the fox

The Country is divided into two distinct groups (not the geographical ones this time).

Type 1. I did something wrong through ignorance/laziness/on purpose and now someone who is employed to do some detecting/enforcement has ruined my day and how dare they? How do I get out of it ?
The funny thing is they want to use concessions in the law to escape obeying the law.... Ironic

Type 2. law abiding citizens who pay their way but, when incurred, pay the fines knowing that that's the system and it exists for that very purpose - to penalise wrongdoing. And when type 1s come along type 2s get very energised because they see red at the injustice.

In the Ireland of today the stick rather than a carrot prevails and for good reason.

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Henry Ford III wrote: »

I switched to the other crowd. They have a dedidcated switching team

The other crowd?
Our Dawkins, who art not in heaven
Hallowed be thy name...

etc :P

There's a lot to be said for Dawkinsism :P

Guy:Incognito

wonski wrote: »

We are all perfect, you know. We are never late with anything, we always indicate and never speed. We also pay motor tax 2 years in advance and service our cars every 2 months. We are like the Jesus of motoring. But, unlike him, we never forgive:D

Its nothing to do with being perfect. Its about whinging when caught and feeling like the laws don't apply.

Flout laws all you like, we all do, but the difference is that certain people feel they should be let away with it.

Dowl88

He made a mistake, whats with the criticism. Looking for a way to get out of a fine. Nothing wrong with that.

High horses in full throttle on this thread.

Do you all act like this in your workplace? Assuming ye do work?

Sh1tbag OToole

I got one of those before while parked in a CIE car park. Which I thought would be private ground since it's managed by the national private clamping company but apparently it isnt. This was close enough to D4, where people still have a lot of faith in the system, the government and the politicians who drink our wine and give nothing in return. Kind of caught me by surprise cause where i'm from these see you next tuesdays who would actually bother to fine someone for an out of date tax disc are few and far between. Well there is 1 or two of them, but you can see (and smell them) from a mile away

bucketybuck

Dowl88 wrote: »

He made a mistake, whats with the criticism. Looking for a way to get out of a fine. Nothing wrong with that.

High horses in full throttle on this thread.

Do you all act like this in your workplace? Assuming ye do work?

Actually no, I don't tolerate that bullshit attitude at my workplace. Far too many people in this country want to be chancers, cutting corners instead of doing their jobs right then trying to find some loophole to get away with crappy performance. I call them on it and make them do their ****ing jobs right.

They are of course the same type of people that let their tax run out or park illegally and think nothing of it. Some people just have that mentality.

Dowl88

bucketybuck wrote: »

Actually no, I don't tolerate that bullshit attitude at my workplace. Far too many people in this country want to be chancers, cutting corners instead of doing their jobs right then trying to find some loophole to get away with crappy performance. I call them on it and make them do their ****ing jobs right.

They are of course the same type of people that let their tax run out or park illegally and think nothing of it. Some people just have that mentality.

What mentality is that exactly? Do you think your better than other people? If you worked in my office you'd be fired in a week with that attitude.

monkeysnapper

iwillhtfu wrote: »

First hand experience with this one.

If you go into your local council office with the tax up to date and showing payment of arrears they should cancel the fine.

Yes you were done for non display but in my experience it wasn't brought up they cancelled it once I produced the relevant info.

This happened to me. Only difference was traffic warden told me to hand in my tax disc when it arrived to the local tax office straight away, ask them to photocopy it and I'll strike it out . I never heard from fine again .

bucketybuck

Dowl88 wrote: »

What mentality is that exactly? Do you think your better than other people? If you worked in my office you'd be fired in a week with that attitude.

Sure!

Fred Swanson

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martin gillespie

djimi wrote: »

The offense is not displaying a valid tax disc; I dont believe that there is any grace period for this, but perhaps someone can show otherwise.

My traffic warden has never done that , and ive been out for upto a year.

Jesus.

bucketybuck wrote: »

Actually no, I don't tolerate that bullshit attitude at my workplace. Far too many people in this country want to be chancers, cutting corners instead of doing their jobs right then trying to find some loophole to get away with crappy performance. I call them on it and make them do their ****ing jobs right.They are of course the same type of people that let their tax run out or park illegally and think nothing of it. Some people just have that mentality.

Others have a totally self-righteous and hypocritical attitude.

Tell me, if you got a bill or a fine in the post and you just happened to be talking to a guy and he told you a loophole you could use, simply and easily and totally legally, and you wouldn't have to pay that fine, would you honestly still go ahead and pay it?

Still more, are you actually telling us that you've never done anything to help yourself out of a very minor sticky situation when the opportunity presented itself, in your entire life?

BTW, how do you think your "cross your T's and dot your I's" way of life (not that I believe it for a second actually) is viewed by those in power who've bled this Country of billions compared to Joe Soap who manages to find a legal way of getting off a 120 euro taffic ticket?

Jesus.

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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What?????

corktina

Fair enough if they had been littering, otherwise it's despicable

billie1b

bucketybuck wrote: »

Secondly, the OP did indeed drive for a month without tax. Subsequently paying the arrears does not change the physically reality of that simple fact.

Stating facts has nothing to do with a high horse.

No he/she didnt drive it for a month, he/she has already stated that they were on holidays and thats why it wasn't paid, shove that up your high horse

Jesus.

billie1b wrote: »

No he/she didnt drive it for a month, he/she has already stated that they were on holidays and thats why it wasn't paid, shove that up your high horse

Did you hear that Cleve?

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Jesus. wrote: »

Did you hear that Cleve?

I don't think I could sit on a high horse anyway :pac:
I'll take my american't everyday of the week. :P

corktina

I can't reach my High Horse to shove anything up it...too High

Fred Swanson

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Jesus.

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Jesus.

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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I presume you're a traffic warden Fred. I never knew you could fine someone for tearing up a document.

You sure you haven't been breaking your precious laws yourself?

I got a couple of parking tickets a few years ago, they went straight in the nearest bin

Fred Swanson wrote: »

I used to get that occasionally. I would then write them a €150 fine for littering and post it to them. That softens the hardest rebels cough quickly.

How did you fine someone 150 quid for putting something in the bin?

Fred Swanson

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Jesus.

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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But he said he put it in the bin

Fred Swanson

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Jesus.

Nope. You quoted PrettyBoy's post below:

PrettyBoy wrote: »

The high horse brigade won't appreciate this but if a parking warden gave me a ticket for non-display of tax I'd laugh at him and throw the ticket away before getting in the car. Not a hope I'd be paying €120, especially if I had a valid disc.

I got a couple of parking tickets a few years ago, they went straight in the nearest bin, I got a letter a few weeks later and ignored it. Four years later and nothing's ever come of either of them.

Just my experience

And then you said this:

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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So you used to get people throwing fines in the bin occasionally and you would "write them a E 150 fine for littering and post it to them"

You reckon "That softens the hardest rebels cough quickly"???

I'm sure it does :pac::pac::pac::pac:

Fred Swanson

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Jesus.

Fair enough Freddie

MortGoldman

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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I have yet to taste any medicine from disposing of fines from wardens/council. And I've incurred several fines. Was pretty hard going ignoring the red lettered warnings though, I will say.

PrettyBoy

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Who said anything about tearing up fines and throwing them on the ground

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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A traffic warden on a power trip? Surely not :rolleyes: Nothing has ever come of any fine that I've binned Fred - absolutely nothing. If I were you I'd refrain from telling people about what "power" you have and what you can do with it, you sound absolutely ridiculous.