Cycling transfers/rumours 2014

retalivity

buffalo wrote: »

If Sagan is going with Oleg, who is Alonso going to have?

I hear Andy Schleck is free...

godtabh

buffalo wrote: »

If Sagan is going with Oleg, who is Alonso going to have?

Contador I thought

mhiggy09

Whats the story with Roche. Is he staying at tinkoff or leaving?

Glass Prison 1214

mhiggy09 wrote: »

Whats the story with Roche. Is he staying at tinkoff or leaving?

Probably leaving although nothing has actually been announced yet.

dastardly00

Eddie Boasson Hagen is leaving Sky at the end of the year.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/edvald-boasson-hagen-to-leave-team-sky

"It is important to find a team I think I can get [my own] opportunities and to try for my own chances," he said. "A good support system, equipment and riders are also important. There must be a project I believe in."

neris

Basso's gone to Tinkoff. On their twitter this morning

godtabh

neris wrote: »

Basso's gone to Tinkoff. On their twitter this morning

Rogers also signed a 2 year extension

wirelessdude01

neris wrote: »

Basso's gone to Tinkoff. On their twitter this morning

I just don't understand this. IMO he is well past his best.

Chips Lovell

He's been bought as a domestique, not a GC contender.

wirelessdude01

Oscar Gateaux wrote: »

He's been bought as a domestique, not a GC contender.

Ohh I know that but even still think he doesn't have the legs anymore to even do that properly. Super domestiques work far harder than GC candidates.

godtabh

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Ohh I know that but even still think he doesn't have the legs anymore to even do that properly. Super domestiques work far harder than GC candidates.

Isnt he good mates with Sagan?

Chips Lovell

I think he'll do just fine.

ZiabR

Oscar Gateaux wrote: »

He's been bought as a domestique, not a GC contender.

Agreed, I think he will do a good job.

retalivity

when does the exodus from saxo start?

surely roche, the sorenson's, benatti, maybe paulinho are all out the door now

gordongekko

retalivity wrote: »

when does the exodus from saxo start?

surely roche, the sorenson's, benatti, maybe paulinho are all out the door now

We're they not shown up as weak this year. Their team for the vuelta is muck and they will need a decent team for the spring classics to support sagan.

Junior

logik wrote: »

Agreed, I think he will do a good job.

He'll be great company for Oleg when he rides ahead of the stages of next years TdF, it's the only way I can see him doing anything useful.

TheBlaaMan

logik wrote: »

Agreed, I think he will do a good job.

I don't get the Basso thing at all. Unless Tinkov got him for next to nothing, its an odd deal IMO, there are far better/fitter/younger/stronger SDs who would do the job for Sagan or Contador. I'm not saying Roche would be far better (though I think he has shown that is is) but Basso, seriously ?
Perhaps Roche did ask too much to continue in the role and Basso is paying for his seat?

godtabh

In their press release for Basso they said 4 people will be leaving shortly. One retiring (cant remember who) and they expect personal announcements soon.

Edit:

Taken from cyclenews

Feltrin also confirmed that at least four riders would leave the team at the end of the season. Karsten Kroon is expected to retire this season and although Nicolas Roche has been offered a new deal the Irishman is set to join another WorldTour team – rumoured to be Team Sky.

“We have four riders who are almost certain to leave the team. I’d prefer for them to announce their futures but one is probably Kroon, who I think will retire. There might be a few more that leave but there will not be a massive turn around, with maybe four or five riders leaving and the same number joining.”

Darkglasses

Rein Taaramae has signed for Astana after 8 years at Cofidis.

D3PO

gordongekko wrote: »

We're they not shown up as weak this year. Their team for the vuelta is muck and they will need a decent team for the spring classics to support sagan.

I think thats a very harsh assesment of things.

Roche / Majika were their GC guys for the Giro. Nico crashed early and that was that and Majika did a good job to get a top 5 in the GC

Bertie crashes in Le Tour at a point where their strong support team had already lost any GC hopes. Romans passport findings forced them to shoehorn Majika into the squad.

Meaning Rodgers, Nico and Majika had all done the frist 2 GT's

Im sure the plan was to send Majika & either Bertie or Krueziger to the Vuelta to challenge for GT glory.

I wouldnt say their squad was weak but circumstances forced their hand re lineups.

Granted they had a poor classics season but they have done ok outside that.

GC wins in the Rud du Sud, Tour of Luxembourg, Tour of Denmark, Tour of Poland, Tirenno Adriatico, Tour of the Basque Country 5 GT stage wins, the Polka dot jersey, 2nd in the Dauphine, 2nd in the Volta a Catyluna, 2nd in Volta a Algarve

They are right up there in the UCI team rankings so yes poor classics season and unfortunate with crashes in the GT's but shown up as a weak team this year. No chance.

MPFG

SKY were the weaker team this year by a long shot

BTW Majka was 6th/7th in Giro AFAIK

TCS will find it harder next year without the like of Kreuz & Roche on dom duties
Contador & Majka wanting to ride lead in GT/stage races....And Sagan needing support to win
Many stars not enough good support IMO......guess if you have Contador & Sagan you have spent a pretty penny...but you do need top class doms to support them
Can imagine (as Roche has done imo) not many riders will want to go to TCS without a massive pay packet as not much hope of riding for yourself...and even then hard to give up all personal ambition

D3PO

MPFG wrote: »

SKY were the weaker team this year by a long shot

BTW Majka was 6th/7th in Giro AFAIK

TCS will find it harder next year without the like of Kreuz & Roche on dom duties
Contador & Majka wanting to ride lead in GT/stage races....And Sagan needing support to win
Many stars not enough good support IMO......guess if you have Contador & Sagan you have spent a pretty penny...but you do need top class doms to support

basso , rodgers, sorenson and paulhino with a fast improving beltran gives them plenty of good dom support in the mountains for the GTs even without Nico or Roman

They may very well have Eddy Bos and Bennatti to support Sagan in the classics and in the GTs Sagan wont get nor does he need thexsupport to get the green jersey anyway.

Id go as far as saying they look like having a far more potent squad next year give the improvement curve of Majika and Beltran alongside a big upgrade to their classics team.

They may be a bit light for LBL Amstel Gold and La Fleche but outside of that its pretty good.

Hell knowing Oleg they probably snatch Betancur up on a whim aswell ;-)

MPFG

Well I don't agree

Basso is too old , Paulinho & CAS not good enough in mountians as already seen
Beltran is not up there yet and not sure when he will be
Rogers only strong mountain DOM
and they want to win more than one GT

As for EBH ...he won't sign wt them imo
Bennatti will ahve alot of DOM duties given he also rides GTs

Need top doms ...which they don't have (except Rogers) ...to beat Froome & Quintana
Anyway time will tell

neris

If Roche goes to Sky where does he fit in alongside the likes of Porte & Thomas?

quozl

neris wrote: »

If Roche goes to Sky where does he fit in alongside the likes of Porte & Thomas?

Based on this season surely he goes above Porte anyway. I can't believe the disimprovement Porte seems to have had in 1 year.

godtabh

Porte I think needs Froome with him. Porte will work himself into the ground for Froome but I dont think he has the same qualities as a top GC contender.

MPFG

Porte has been ill...he had a bad year ...it happens ....could come back next year and win lots of stage races....Not sure he has consistency for GTs though

I don't want Nico to go to SKY but if he does I imagine he wil be looking for lead at the Vuelta ....If Porte leads any GT it will be the Giro

Geraint & Kennaugh have talked about wining a GT but I think the need some more time if they are serious
Anyway Thomas will no doubt want to target cobbles classics next year
Nieve & Deignan are good climber but can't see them leading in a GT

There is talk of Wout Poels joining SKY...he is a very good climber & TTer

Shakakan

MPFG wrote: »

Porte has been ill...he had a bad year ...it happens ....could come back next year and win lots of stage races....Not sure he has consistency for GTs though

I don't want Nico to go to SKY but if he does I imagine he wil be looking for lead at the Vuelta ....If Porte leads any GT it will be the Giro

Geraint & Kennaugh have talked about wining a GT but I think the need some more time if they are serious
Anyway Thomas will no doubt want to target cobbles classics next year
Nieve & Deignan are good climber but can't see them leading in a GT

There is talk of Wout Poels joining SKY...he is a very good climber & TTer

There is the matter of a couple of Henao's though...

I'd like to see Nico at Sky if he'd got the same opportunities for himself (i.e. lead at the Vuelta/Giro and a couple of stage races). Would be nice to see him and Deignan on the same team and both supporting Froome-Dog at a TDF

Darkglasses

Edvald Boasson Hagen will ride for MTN Qhubeka next year according to Sadhbh O'Shea

dave_o_brien

Velo News states "leaving the team is Nicholas Roche, who heads to Team Sky" in a piece about Mick Rogers:

http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/08/news/finding-balance-michael-rogers-teamwork-happiness-comes-next_342791

Iranoutofideas

bah!

Junior

EBH to MTN Qhubeka.

Darkglasses

Robert Kiserlovski has signed for Tinkoff-Saxo next year. Great move for both sides

MPFG

Darkglasses wrote: »

Robert Kiserlovski has signed for Tinkoff-Saxo next year. Great move for both sides

Not sure why its great on both sides except maybe Kiserlovski gets a good pay raise

I am hoping Roche to Trek in replacement...

Pudsy33

Adam Blyth heading down under with Orica next year apparently.

Junior

Farrar to MTN as well - just announced on MTN Site.

MPFG

So its Poels , Konig & Roche to SKY ......quite a difficult place to get GT leadership I'd say

Junior

MPFG wrote: »

So its Poels , Konig & Roche to SKY ......quite a difficult place to get GT leadership I'd say

Poels, Konig, Roche, Nordhaug and Viviani to Sky I believe.

MPFG

I am not sure the Viviani rumour has legs

But yes re Nordhag

Darkglasses

Junior wrote: »

Poels, Konig, Roche, Nordhaug and Viviani to Sky I believe.

Great signings, and in fairness they needed them.

Junior

Not sure how Viviani would fit it at Sky

TheBlaaMan

I often wonder if any of them are aware of any of the others who are signing to the same tea at the same time? I know that certain expectations may be built into contracts before signing, but it could turn what seemed like a great decision into a far less good one if you find your theoretical position in the team is actually already filled............?

I dont think it would happen in footie..?

Junior

Oh and on the other side of it FDJ have benched Bouhanni for the rest of the season for an interview in L'Equipe.

MPFG

TheBlaaMan wrote: »

I often wonder if any of them are aware of any of the others who are signing to the same tea at the same time? I know that certain expectations may be built into contracts before signing, but it could turn what seemed like a great decision into a far less good one if you find your theoretical position in the team is actually already filled............?

I dont think it would happen in footie..?

I wondered this as well ....I imagine a team 'big up' a rider they want to sign and say things like 'we can bring out your potential, help you win , etc' but how they can promise all this when some wil have to fallin to line and support riders that bit stronger who may have signed without theri knowledge....tough business cycling...you are support and competition all in one

MPFG

Junior wrote: »

Oh and on the other side of it FDJ have benched Bouhanni for the rest of the season for an interview in L'Equipe.

So what he say then ...or ahve you a link ??

letape

MPFG wrote: »

So what he say then ...or ahve you a link ??

Article on cyclingnews earlier on it:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/fdj-sidelines-bouhanni-in-response-to-french-interview

Junior

MPFG wrote: »

So what he say then ...or ahve you a link ??

No link. Interview was in last Saturday's paper.

MPFG

Seems now the rumour is Konig is going to Katusha and will lead in the Tour with J-Rod to lead Giro/Vuelta

letape

MPFG wrote: »

Seems now the rumour is Konig is going to Katusha and will lead in the Tour with J-Rod to lead Giro/Vuelta

He's a great rider and definitely deserves the backing of a strong team. Dani Moreno hasn't lived up to expectations for Katusha this year and J Rod is getting on in years so they need to think about the future.

dastardly00

NetApp-Endura have done remarkably well to keep König for so long.