Eircom fibre for direct to exchange news?

Pious14

KeRbDoG wrote: »

Not really giving a good estimate of what you might get. I get a solid 30Mb down (line states 37Mb but current profile locked to 30 down) but that says 1Mb down

My line is giving the same reading with fibre to go live this week. I'm about 3km from a cabinet. Realistically, can I expect any increase in speeds when fibre goes live?

MiskyBoyy

Pious14 wrote: »

My line is giving the same reading with fibre to go live this week. I'm about 3km from a cabinet. Realistically, can I expect any increase in speeds when fibre goes live?

At 3km, no.

I'd be going with wireless if that was me.

Barry Kelliher

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

I live in a rural area within the next six weeks my area will have fibre. I'm connected to the exchange.

I'm roughly 450 metres from the exchange and i receive 6.5 megabytes down 312 kb up( ASDL1) My ping is around 30

Does anyone know if my ping will reduce or stay the same when i have exchange fibre? I play games online and ping i heard is more important for gaming than download or upload.

i also live 450m away from my exchange and in july we switched to efibre. My ping before hand was around 30 and my download was 6.5. Now with efibre i have a 10ms ping on wired connection and 20 on wireless, i also have a 45 down and a 15 up

BandMember

It looks like the map has been updated - https://www.eir.ie/eirfibreinfo/map/

Cheerful Spring

Barry Kelliher wrote: »

i also live 450m away from my exchange and in july we switched to efibre. My ping before hand was around 30 and my download was 6.5. Now with efibre i have a 10ms ping on wired connection and 20 on wireless, i also have a 45 down and a 15 up

Why only 45 down? I thought 450 metres meant i will get least 60 down? Are exchange lines not using vectoring?

10ms ping take that!

ED E

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Are exchange lines not using vectoring?

For now, for the most part, no.

mass_debater

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Why only 45 down? I thought 450 metres meant i will get least 60 down? Are exchange lines not using vectoring?

10ms ping take that!

Most exchanges have a max of 70mbit and 1500m distance, no vectoring yet although I'm told there are a few that are, possibly for testing.

dbit

Barry Kelliher wrote: »

i also live 450m away from my exchange and in july we switched to efibre. My ping before hand was around 30 and my download was 6.5. Now with efibre i have a 10ms ping on wired connection and 20 on wireless, i also have a 45 down and a 15 up

Also DF here @ around 850 - 950 meters im getting 55 down and 15 up. There are no vectoring cabs between me and the exchange though.( As that can impact DF users too.)

fr0zen

So I have 4 cabinets surrounding me in Carrigaline, I have 3 cabinets within 300m(CGI_002, 005, 013) and one cabinet 500m away from me. But my speeds (30/10) indicate that the cabinet I am connected to is roughly 992-1167m away from me when the exchange itself is only roughly 400m away from me... I just find it irritating that its like this because as far as I know all of these cabinets have vectoring on them too so it just makes no sense as to why im connected to a cabinet so far away. I know all of this wont matter by Q1 2016 as SIRO has confirmed that I will be FTTH enabled by then. I know it definitely looks as if I am ranting and I kinda am, but can anyone explain the reasoning behind it?

ED E

A. Fault

B. Legacy cable runs(not super uncommon). Your lines goes where it went, not to the closest DSLAM.

fr0zen

ED E wrote: »

A. Fault

B. Legacy cable runs(not super uncommon). Your lines goes where it went, not to the closest DSLAM.

Would there be any way to check that it could be a fault? The max speeds I can get are up to 40mb/s but that causes my SNR to go below 9 both up and down.

Praetorian

You can be lucky or unlucky. My brother 100 metres from a cabinet right outside his estate is connected to one 1200 metres away and gets 25/5.

I'm a long way by road to my nearest cabinet but the cable literally must travel under my house as I have 100m/bit with astonishingly good stats.

ED E

fr0zen wrote: »

Would there be any way to check that it could be a fault? The max speeds I can get are up to 40mb/s but that causes my SNR to go below 9 both up and down.

What are your attenuation figures?

fr0zen

ED E wrote: »

What are your attenuation figures?

Downstream line attenuation (dB) 17.6
Upstream line attenuation (dB) 8.4

ED E

That says 1300m run.

Matches the speeds you're seeing.

ewj1978

hi guys, got efibre in today. 7/1. stats are: I'm direct to exchange. Just wondering will there be any hope of an increase in the future?
Line standard VDSL2
Channel type
None
Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 7168
Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 1022
Downstream SNR (dB) 25.7
Upstream SNR (dB) 9.4
Downstream line attenuation (dB) 32.8
Upstream line attenuation (dB) 17.9
Downstream output power (dBmV) 13.9
Upstream output power (dBmV) 10.5
Downstream CRC 0
Upstream CRC 0
Downstream FEC 0
Upstream FEC 0

ED E

Your upstream is the problem, modem is struggling to send back to the exchange. If eir allowed a 20_1 profile you'd probably manage that, but they're not going to.

Cancel and get 12_1 ADSL2+.

ewj1978

so there'll be no improvement in the future? Not until SIRO?

Hibrasil

Hibrasil wrote: »

.....my exchange went live on the 8th July ....and I'm as far away today from efibre as I was last year.....eventually asked my ISP (the technical guys) to upgrade my profile to the next level (9-12 Mb) instead of present profile of up to 8 Mb. I am only 1500 metres from exchange......

Last week I saw an OpenEir engineer working on my nearest cabinet and a little while later he had a manhole open (and working on it) just around the corner from me. When I spoke to him he told me that I should be able to get e-fibre.... and when I remarked that it only worked up to 1.5 Km....he confirmed that I was connected to the cabinet (I had previously been told that I was a Direct to Exchange connection).....and that I was 1.5 Km from the cabinet.....but that the 1.5 km had now been "upped" to 2.0km and that I should get about 20 Mb download.

When I use the DigiWeb site I get the following:-

Exchange Code: Unknown

DSL Enabled: Yes - 15 MB

NGB Enabled: Yes - 15 MB

Fibre Enabled: Yes - 18 MB

LLU Enabled: No

A check on Eir's website gives me 18 Mb also.

I am on a 12/13 Mb download speed at present and 0.6 Mb upload.

Is it a good idea to switch to efibre or would I be better off upping the ante a little on my present broadband.

Thanks for responses....:)

ED E

Yeah, go for it, your download may be the same but your upload should be better.

Hibrasil

ED E wrote: »

Yeah, go for it, your download may be the same but your upload should be better.

Thanks again:):)

Hibrasil

ED E wrote: »

Yeah, go for it, your download may be the same but your upload should be better.

KN networks engineer called yesterday (saturday) morning and did the necessary change. Download was 17 Mb when he left - shortly after the download speed went back down to 5 Mb - checked this evening (Sunday) and speedtest showed 16 Mb - and again a little later it was 5Mb.

What does anyone know is the problem - why the fluctuations!

Thanks in anticipation!:)

ED E

**Assuming its not just wifi **

Its not stable, so when it crashes it resyncs low. The fact that its going back up again by itself is a little concerning. Give tech support a ring and ask them to move the line profile down from 18Mb to 15Mb and hopefully it stabilizes, if not they'll need to diagnose further and send it back out to KNN.

mass_debater

Strangely I do not know the answer to this question so hoping someone here has had some experience. I'm changing from Eir to Vodafone and have a bridged F2000 and a Mikrotik router. Can I just change the PPPoE login details in the router? Will the F2000 get sync on a Vodafone VDSL port?
I'm changing next week when I happen to be away so hoping to sort this remotely without need for putting the missus through a hardware swapout in a 12U cabinet that's touching the ceiling

MiskyBoyy

mass_debater wrote: »

Strangely I do not know the answer to this question so hoping someone here has had some experience. I'm changing from Eir to Vodafone and have a bridged F2000 and a Mikrotik router. Can I just change the PPPoE login details in the router? Will the F2000 get sync on a Vodafone VDSL port?
I'm changing next week when I happen to be away so hoping to sort this remotely without need for putting the missus through a hardware swapout in a 12U cabinet that's touching the ceiling

I'm with Vodafone fibre & using an Eircom F2000. I just entered Vodafone PPPoE details into the F2000 & it worked away. Hope this helps.

ItHurtsWhenIP

There have been reports recently of eir sending couriers (unannounced) to collect the routers from ex-customers, so might want to watch for this and have the missus prepared to disconnect and hand it over.

ED E

mass_debater wrote: »

Strangely I do not know the answer to this question so hoping someone here has had some experience. I'm changing from Eir to Vodafone and have a bridged F2000 and a Mikrotik router. Can I just change the PPPoE login details in the router? Will the F2000 get sync on a Vodafone VDSL port?
I'm changing next week when I happen to be away so hoping to sort this remotely without need for putting the missus through a hardware swapout in a 12U cabinet that's touching the ceiling

Yes it will work. All res traffic is VLAN 10 customer side.

But new eir policy is to take the modem back, its unclear if that applies to all legacy installs or just recent customers.

mass_debater

MMFITWGDV wrote: »

There have been reports recently of eir sending couriers (unannounced) to collect the routers from ex-customers, so might want to watch for this and have the missus prepared to disconnect and hand it over.

Yeah I heard that, I have spares I can hand over

Hibrasil

ED E wrote: »

**Assuming its not just wifi **

Its not stable, so when it crashes it resyncs low. The fact that its going back up again by itself is a little concerning. Give tech support a ring and ask them to move the line profile down from 18Mb to 15Mb and hopefully it stabilizes, if not they'll need to diagnose further and send it back out to KNN.

Thanks ED.E - The KN engineer tested a phone extension in my sitting room and said it was ok so he replaced that socket with a double socket (inbuilt filter?). After the engineer left - the phone extension in kitchen (where main phone had always been plugged in) was not working - it had no dial tone. So I plugged the phone into single socket in the hall where it worked.

I contacted technical support today and when I ran a speedtest after un-plugging the phone in the hall the download speed went back up to 17.6 Mb.

Am I correct in assuming that the problem is the un-filtered socket in the hall - although a phone plugged in in the main bedroom is(no filter used here) does not cause the same problem.

Suggestions appreciated.....technical support have suggested replacing the phone....I suspect it is not the instrument causing the problem.:)

ED E

Hibrasil wrote: »

Thanks ED.E - The KN engineer tested a phone extension in my sitting room and said it was ok so he replaced that socket with a double socket (inbuilt filter?). After the engineer left - the phone extension in kitchen (where main phone had always been plugged in) was not working - it had no dial tone. So I plugged the phone into single socket in the hall where it worked.

I contacted technical support today and when I ran a speedtest after un-plugging the phone in the hall the download speed went back up to 17.6 Mb.

Am I correct in assuming that the problem is the un-filtered socket in the hall - although a phone plugged in in the main bedroom is(no filter used here) does not cause the same problem.

Suggestions appreciated.....technical support have suggested replacing the phone....I suspect it is not the instrument causing the problem.:)

That double socket he installed should be filtering the entire house.

1. Double socket in hallway - Left is BB, Right is Phone
2. Ext in kitchen, dis on install - Not OpenEirs problem unfortunately, normal if there was a short present
3. Ext in hallway(???)

If connecting that same phone upstairs doesnt cause problems then 3 is faulty, thats your problem to sort(get a sparky in). If putting that phone upstairs breaks the connection, bin that phone.

Praetorian

Just noticed on the speed checking sites that 70/20 is now available on our exchange based vdsl lines. So I'm currently just half way through getting our line profiles notched up.

If any of ye are stuck on 50/15 like I was, it's worth checking on the Eir line checker first.

Praetorian

Proof of the 70 x 2 connection. Do I win a prize for the fastest vdsl download ?

I guess someone out there has 3-4 lines glued together

ED E

120 of 140, not a bad result for aggregated lines (or are they bonded?).

Praetorian

They are load balanced 50/50 on a sonic wall. Is anyone actually doing bonded vdsl here?

ED E

Praetorian wrote: »

They are load balanced 50/50 on a sonic wall. Is anyone actually doing bonded vdsl here?

Not that I'd heard of, but I dont reach each IPM/RAP revision word for word.

smiddyboy

Yay! My exchange has been enabled for efibre!

Boo! Looks like it's not going to worth my while upgrading according to the Digiweb line checker!...

Exchange Code: Unknown

DSL Enabled: Yes - 17 MB

NGB Enabled: Yes - 17 MB

Fibre Enabled: Yes - 15 MB

LLU Enabled: No

I take it there is no chance this is going to be improved??

I'm currently on a 15 MB profile and get roughly 12/13 consistently. Do you think a move to fibre could get me a couple more MB up to 15, or would it be a waste of time.

My Current ADSL stats are:

Current Rate(kbps) 15356
Max Rate(kbps) 22484
SNR Margin(dB) 9.3
Line Attenuation(dB) 18.5
Errors(pkts) 167

Cheerful Spring

smiddyboy wrote: »

Yay! My exchange has been enabled for efibre!

Boo! Looks like it's not going to worth my while upgrading according to the Digiweb line checker!...

Exchange Code: Unknown

DSL Enabled: Yes - 17 MB

NGB Enabled: Yes - 17 MB

Fibre Enabled: Yes - 15 MB

LLU Enabled: No

I take it there is no chance this is going to be improved??

I'm currently on a 15 MB profile and get roughly 12/13 consistently. Do you think a move to fibre could get me a couple more MB up to 15, or would it be a waste of time.

My Current ADSL stats are:

Current Rate(kbps) 15356
Max Rate(kbps) 22484
SNR Margin(dB) 9.3
Line Attenuation(dB) 18.5
Errors(pkts) 167

Is that checker accurate? Says i can only get 25 meg with Efibre was expecting slightly better to be honest?

ED E

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Is that checker accurate? Says i can only get 25 meg with Efibre was expecting slightly better to be honest?

For the most part, yes.

Cheerful Spring

ED E wrote: »

For the most part, yes.

Sucks if true. I sent a PM to a Eircom rep. She told me since the exchange is not live till the 22th of June she can't tell what speed i will receive? Not sure if shes fibbing? I told her Digiweb line checher only gave me 25meg. I am only 430 metres 25 meg is not that great. I thought the closer you're to the exchange the faster the speed?

guil

The line checkers take a while to update after it goes live. Are you sure you are that close to the exchange? The wires might not run straight to it. Post up the stats from your router and one of the lads will tell you how far you are.

Cheerful Spring

guil wrote: »

The line checkers take a while to update after it goes live. Are you sure you are that close to the exchange? The wires might not run straight to it. Post up the stats from your router and one of the lads will tell you how far you are.

If you talking to me yes i about 430-450 metres from the exchange. I receive 6.2 meg and its up to 7meg my package right now ASDL1.

Well the exchange to my house it not a straight line of sight. I looked at the stats it says nothing about Distance what i am looking for exactly to post?

ED E

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Sucks if true. I sent a PM to a Eircom rep. She told me since the exchange is not live till the 22th of June she can't tell what speed i will receive? Not sure if shes fibbing? I told her Digiweb line checher only gave me 25meg. I am only 430 metres 25 meg is not that great. I thought the closer you're to the exchange the faster the speed?

Feel like posting the full result?

Cheerful Spring

ED E wrote: »

Feel like posting the full result?

Just send a PM with a gif of my modem stats

guil

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Just send a PM with a gif of my modem stats

There's nothing to hide in the stats. Just take a screenshot and post in the thread and someone will tell you the length of your line and a rough idea of what speed you should get.

ED E

guil wrote: »

There's nothing to hide in the stats. Just take a screenshot and post in the thread and someone will tell you the length of your line and a rough idea of what speed you should get.

Contains his public so I won't embed it.

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Just send a PM with a gif of my modem stats

From that:
Currently on 1km loop on an older ADSL1 Package/Card. 7Mb now but would manage 20Mb ADSL2+ if that were available. Noise levels are right where we'd expect them.

That means you've prequalled for eVDSL which has a reduced footprint of 1500m or so giving 7Mb at that range. You might make 30Mb if all goes well but 40 is quite unlikely.

Cheerful Spring

ED E wrote: »

Contains his public so I won't embed it.



From that:
Currently on 1km loop on an older ADSL1 Package/Card. 7Mb now but would manage 20Mb ADSL2+ if that were available. Noise levels are right where we'd expect them.

That means you've prequalled for eVDSL which has a reduced footprint of 1500m or so giving 7Mb at that range. You might make 30Mb if all goes well but 40 is quite unlikely.

I thought the efibre speeds are better the closer your house is it to the exchange? Why can't i get higher then 25 meg if its up to 70..

Could it be only 25 meg now because the exchange has not yet gone live or is that wishful thinking?

Cheerful Spring

guil wrote: »

There's nothing to hide in the stats. Just take a screenshot and post in the thread and someone will tell you the length of your line and a rough idea of what speed you should get.

I would not be that disappointed with 25 meg its 4x times what i have already. Just thought Efibre would be better with all the talk about it. I not far from local exchange so the speeds are not what i expected thats all!

guil

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

I would not be that disappointed with 25 meg its 4x times what i have already. Just thought Efibre would be better with all the talk about it. I not far from local exchange so the speeds are not what i expected thats all!

Your line is about 1km long so that's why you might not get higher speeds. On 30mb download you will get about 8 upload.

Cheerful Spring

guil wrote: »

Your line is about 1km long so that's why you might not get higher speeds. On 30mb download you will get about 8 upload.

Really so strange? How come i am able to get 6.2 meg on a 7 meg package then? (ASDL1 max is 7meg). I was thinking if my line was that long surely my speed would be lot less then 6 meg? I not an expert just trying to find answers.

ED E

ADSL(2+) is up to 6km. (e)VDSL2 is up to 2km(1500m). So you're at 16% range for the current system but 50% for the new one (which is weighted towards the short end). 200m is what we'd call close.