Eircom fibre for direct to exchange news?

Packet

Robbo wrote: »

Is there anything that can be done about a premises...

the famous "blue lines" of the rural fibre scheme won't pass the premises.

On the plus side they'll probably eventually get FTTH rather than VDSL2. The copper won't be rerouted.

Chromosphere

long_b wrote: »

Must admit I got a bit teary eyed reading that.
Thank you for your work keeping us all updated with the national progress.

/* Salutes */

VDSL2 cabinets actually make a lot of sense for rural areas. Exchange-based ADSL was really a hacked on technology suitable for large population centres with short lines.

Actually, when you look at the old PSTN tech used for landlines, it benefited from a previous advance in technology in the late 70s/early 80s that allowed distributed small digital exchanges that brought rural areas advanced telephone services for the first time at reasonable cost. VDSL2 cabinets are just the modern equivalent.

If you think about it, one cabinet could adequately service an entire village.

I still think we need to look at cheaper intermediate steps to fibre though - e.g. if it's feasible getting 'deeper fibre' using pole-mounted VDSL2 and so on to get the fibre closer and closer to end users, while rolling enough fibre to ultimately extend that to full FTTH.

Packet

Chromosphere wrote: »

VDSL2 cabinets actually make a lot of sense for rural areas. Exchange-based ADSL was really a hacked on technology suitable for large population centres with short lines.

Actually, when you look at the old PSTN tech used for landlines, it benefited from a previous advance in technology in the late 70s/early 80s that allowed distributed small digital exchanges that brought rural areas advanced telephone services for the first time at reasonable cost. VDSL2 cabinets are just the modern equivalent.

If you think about it, one cabinet could adequately service an entire village.

I still think we need to look at cheaper intermediate steps to fibre though - e.g. if it's feasible getting 'deeper fibre' using pole-mounted VDSL2 and so on to get the fibre closer and closer to end users, while rolling enough fibre to ultimately extend that to full FTTH.

There is a huge deployment of exchange launched VDSL2 for commercial lines not covered by VDSL2 cabinets. Most suitable copper lines are getting it.

G.fast if it is used is more likely to happen in urban areas where getting the fibre drop all the way in is difficult. The FTTH ODN is the likely way of backhauling G.fast.

The costs for FTTH don't look too bad for a lot of premises. It's the final low density premises where kilometers of fibre ODN and poles are being put in just for them that drive up the costs.

ED E

Chromosphere wrote: »

VDSL2 cabinets actually make a lot of sense for rural areas. Exchange-based ADSL was really a hacked on technology suitable for large population centres with short lines.

Actually, when you look at the old PSTN tech used for landlines, it benefited from a previous advance in technology in the late 70s/early 80s that allowed distributed small digital exchanges that brought rural areas advanced telephone services for the first time at reasonable cost. VDSL2 cabinets are just the modern equivalent.

If you think about it, one cabinet could adequately service an entire village.

I still think we need to look at cheaper intermediate steps to fibre though - e.g. if it's feasible getting 'deeper fibre' using pole-mounted VDSL2 and so on to get the fibre closer and closer to end users, while rolling enough fibre to ultimately extend that to full FTTH.

What you're talking about is FTTDP and has a very limited application. It works in central europe but is poor here due to our abysmal planning regulations.

Copper_pipe

Getting fibre installed tomorrow

Vodafone has provided us with another HG658c but we have found this to not be so great.

Any recommendations for a new router under the 50 quid mark?

ED E

Wait and spend more, at €50 you won't get much better than the 658c. Maybe grab an F2000 for €20 if you find one second hand.

Copper_pipe

ED E wrote: »

Wait and spend more, at €50 you won't get much better than the 658c. Maybe grab an F2000 for €20 if you find one second hand.

Would something like this be any use?

https://m.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/3623484/Trail/searchtext%3EWireless+modem.htm

mass_debater

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Would something like this be any use?

https://m.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/3623484/Trail/searchtext%3EWireless+modem.htm

No, it does not support VDSL. You don't have many to choose from, a handful.
http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057632871/1/#post100625631

Your best bet is to try find an Eir F2000, it's much better and is dual band 802.11ac

daraghwal

mass_debater wrote: »

No, it does not support VDSL. You don't have many to choose from, a handful.
http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057632871/1/#post100625631

Your best bet is to try find an Eir F2000, it's much better and is dual band 802.11ac

There's nearly always a few on adverts and donedeal, maybe ebay