Eircom fibre for direct to exchange news?

yuloni

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mass_debater

yuloni wrote: »

Was it a new line install or did they just upgrade an existing line? I assume it's no more than patching into a new block in the exchange for existing lines?

Upgrade but it's the same thing, just jumpered to a new vdsl block in the exchange instead of adsl.

mailsanchu

How the speed increases from 10Mb to 100 Mb if the change is that simple ?

MediaHaul

It doesn't for me. In fact it goes down from 16mb to 12mb in my case!

yuloni

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mass_debater

mailsanchu wrote: »

How the speed increases from 10Mb to 100 Mb if the change is that simple ?

This is just the upgrade install for the customer, the new vdsl blocks are connected to fibre and support upto 100mbit bit will most likely only do up to 50mbit as there is no vectoring. The customer is connected to the new vdsl block in the same way as they got connected to adsl block.

mailsanchu

I completely understand your frustration .. After all waiting all these years for downgrade of broadband

MediaHaul

I got the "sorry this happens" fromEircom when I queried why I was getting such crap fibre speeds when I was so close to the exchange. Followed by "maybe in 2016 if we upgrade it will increase".

If I could move today I would.

yuloni

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mailsanchu

What upgrade they are referring to "maybe in 2016 if we upgrade it will increase"

MediaHaul

yuloni wrote: »

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Connected to CEL1, but it appears to already be live. Was on to an engineer about another issue and he said it had gone live.

Chatted to Eircom sales and they said 24mb is the max speed I'll get, and my current provider Sky clocked it at 12mb for fibre. Currently getting 16mb adsl.

I am 150m from the main exchange and direct fed.

MediaHaul

mailsanchu wrote: »

What upgrade they are referring to "maybe in 2016 if we upgrade it will increase"

No idea! They are the worlds best bullshi**ers

Praetorian

If anyone can post their modem stats from an evdsl install we would be very happy to see them on here!

ClonNGB

I contacted Eircom just now to ask about Clonakilty exchange and they said they currently have no solution for direct fed lines but are awaiting on a regulation to be passed. They could give no indication of dates etc etc etc.
Hard to know what to believe anymore

ClonNGB

I passed the new Co-action build in Scartagh, Clonakilty yesterday and there was a KN Networks van and chap going in with a box under his arm. I assume he was installing a fibre broadband connection but since there are no cabs around just the exchange 100m away, are they were doing it eVDSL ? Or do KN Networks also do some of the old ADSL installs as well for Eircom ? Are they limiting eVDLS to just new line installs if that is the case ?

Johnboy1951

ClonNGB wrote: »

I passed the new Co-action build in Scartagh, Clonakilty yesterday and there was a KN Networks van and chap going in with a box under his arm. I assume he was installing a fibre broadband connection but since there are no cabs around just the exchange 100m away, are they were doing it eVDSL ? Or do KN Networks also do some of the old ADSL installs as well for Eircom ? Are they limiting eVDLS to just new line installs if that is the case ?

KN install telephone lines in people's homes for Eircom, so they could be doing anything it seems.

mass_debater

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

KN install telephone lines in people's homes for Eircom, so they could be doing anything it seems.

Eircom techs only do fault repair, everything else is out to KN, new provides, upgrades etc

dbit

ClonNGB wrote: »

I passed the new Co-action build in Scartagh, Clonakilty yesterday and there was a KN Networks van and chap going in with a box under his arm. I assume he was installing a fibre broadband connection but since there are no cabs around just the exchange 100m away, are they were doing it eVDSL ? Or do KN Networks also do some of the old ADSL installs as well for Eircom ? Are they limiting eVDLS to just new line installs if that is the case ?

I have been out on site in that very building they have, isdn lines fractional for phones and another line that hosts fax and standard adsl tapping out around 3-6 MB ( Its been a few years since i was in there)

MBSnr

All aboard the colour change!!

http://www.eircom.net/efibreinfo/map/

Zith

MBSnr wrote: »

All aboard the colour change!!

http://www.eircom.net/efibreinfo/map/

Wow, that would be the exchange launched then! Hope that means they will be upgrading the backhaul.

yuloni

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dbit

yuloni wrote: »

These constant colour changes are wearing me down!! The fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when map is still showing the older dates but the eircom map has moved all the exchanges in my area from "Summer/Autumn" forward to "April to June" so let's hope it's accurate... eVDSL within 3 months and me less than 100 metres from the exchange :eek:


Who knows, perhaps BK will happen across another list of exchanges due to go live *cough*

Lol feeling your pain Mona mi.

ItHurtsWhenIP

MBSnr wrote: »

All aboard the colour change!!

http://www.eircom.net/efibreinfo/map/

Ahhh FFS!!!

Now my village's exchange and our neighbouring one have been pushed out from October-December 2015 to January-March 2016.

Grrrrrrrr :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

yuloni

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Zith

yuloni wrote: »

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Changed again. Must have been a mistake earlier and still doesn't look right. Looks like they are having a 3 month break for Christmas :-) nothing for Oct-Dec 15. When I first commented earlier today many of the rural exchanges had been listed as green, meaning "available now". Most of those are now gone to purple (Jan/March 16).

Just goes to show you should never update anything important on a Friday!

yuloni

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mobil 222

mass_debater wrote: »

Eircom techs only do fault repair, everything else is out to KN, new provides, upgrades etc

No they do major cable faults as well

Simi

MMFITWGDV wrote: »

Ahhh FFS!!!

Now my village's exchange and our neighbouring one have been pushed out from October-December 2015 to January-March 2016.

Grrrrrrrr :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Yep, thought that the rollout was gathering momentum & that I'd be rid of my 384k upload by Xmas. Guess I'll just have to move.

ED E

Tech out this morning unloading new cabling and equipment into RMS, he could just be replenishing stores but I wouldnt be surprised if this is for eVDSL jumpering.

guil

I notice Kn and eircom vans at my exchange a lot more recently, CUR1_E01. Hoping there's some movement but the where and when map doesn't have any new info.

ED E

guil wrote: »

I notice Kn and eircom vans at my exchange a lot more recently, CUR1_E01. Hoping there's some movement but the where and when map doesn't have any new info.

That could just be them doing eFibre installs in the surrounding areas. Every time they fit VDSL they have to go back there to remove ADSL.

kaizersoze

I got a letter from Eircom yesterday advising me that eFibre was available to me now. I was upgraded last week so their system probably hasn't been updated yet.

Interestingly, it also said that "our technicians will have completed all network upgrades in the Ballinasloe area by 24th April 2015". I'm assuming they're including exchange direct fed lined in that. Any significance in that date I wonder for exchange launched in other areas I wonder?

It also stated from that date on, the would begin upgrading all non-fibre broadband customers to eFibre at no extra cost and no change to current contracts.

ED E

kaizersoze wrote: »

It also stated from that date on, the would begin upgrading all non-fibre broadband customers to eFibre at no extra cost and no change to current contracts.

Oh thats interesting. The flyer would be eircom retail presumably, so they're probably paying the install fees in order to mop up the remaining ADSL customer base.

I can see our NetIndex rankings continuing to shoot up in the coming months.

MediaHaul

This is where my current exchange is at in terms of going live:

"Fibre Build Commenced - Completion Work in Progress" and is showing as a grey dot (CEL1 main exchange).

I'm hoping that when this eventually turns green that I see some positive change.

At present my address says fibre is enabled but as I said before a few times eircom / sky said the max I will get on fibre is 12mbps.

*starts crying histerically again*

kaizersoze

ED E wrote: »

Oh thats interesting. The flyer would be eircom retail presumably, so they're probably paying the install fees in order to mop up the remaining ADSL customer base.

I can see our NetIndex rankings continuing to shoot up in the coming months.

I presume it was. Arrived in the post addressed to me and contained my account number.

It specifically said that they would be taking 'proactive measures' to transfer existing customers to this superior network.

yuloni

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ED E

The cabs, IIRC are 192 ports per rack, so 192x2 in the "doubles". Full size DSLAMs gives them more options though. Will depend on what theyve purchased from Huawei. Eg:

The MA5600 supports 64-port ADSL2+ service boards with built-in splitters, which enables a single service subrack to provide services for up to 896 subscribers. A MA5600 cabinet, as a result, can provide services for up to 2,688 subscribers. Even with very little space, operators can still provide services to communities with a high subscriber density. The MA5600 also supports 32-port VDSL2 service boards with built-in splitters and 32-port SHDSL.bis service boards.

The small cabs here support 32x6 by default. Looking at the full rack each shelf holds 12x LT cards. And each DSLAM rack could hold 3 shelves worth at regular roof height. So one rack unit would be 32x12x3 or 1100 odd VDSL ports.

With indoor stuff its easier to pick and mix. They may simply fit roughly the number of shelves required and then add cards if capacity is required.


2. Do we know if NLV/SLV is ready? That'll be the big big factor. If you have a main pair of 800 lines running out of the exchange vectoring the entire set against each other will make a big difference.

drunkmonkey

Is there anyway to see when a cabinet is planned to go live, I've one less than 1/2km away, I presume that's good but it's saying "Fibre Broadband Cabinet is planned for this location" since August/September.
Asked Eircom support they said sometime 2014 last year now there saying before the end of 2015.

bk

kaizersoze wrote: »

It also stated from that date on, the would begin upgrading all non-fibre broadband customers to eFibre at no extra cost and no change to current contracts.

If they are doing that for all their customers then that is fantastic news.

As ED E says, it means we should see big jumps in various international speed indexes.

Also it seems like a logical move by Eircom. If people are happily getting >50Mb/s speeds, they are less likely to shop around for other providers such as UPC or ESB FTTH.

yuloni

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domeld

Courtown co Wexford, on fibreroulot.ie is showing as a live, but still on eircom gateway is old speed (24 Mb) - probably waiting for new prequel.

ED E

yuloni wrote: »

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First, check this if you haven't:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=94075907&postcount=183

And then see this:


ISDN in Annex B (what eircom use) seems to also be down in the 0-120Khz. Khz. Tiny amount of overlap there.

So depending on what limit COMREG/Eircom have allowed the DSLAMs to go up to in the exchange, the space between 2.2Mhz and x Mhz(17 for cabs) could be safely vectored.

Whats the big query, which we havent heard about yet, is LLU.

In some jurisdictions the regulatory authority may enable competition in the broadband access
with physical loop unbundling. When physical loop unbundling is implemented, the incumbent
operator rents loops to competitive operators allowing them to connect their own access
equipment to the loop to offer broadband access to end-customers. To achieve the maximum
benefits of crosstalk cancelation with vectoring, it is necessary to synchronize all the VDSL2
links in the binder. If two operators are deploying VDSL2 links from different DSLAMs in the
same binder, this ceases to be possible. Each vectored group from one operator in the binder will
appear as alien disturbers for the other vectored groups deployed by the other operator. As a
result, in the case of physical loop unbundling and if different operators are deploying VDSL2
lines in the same binder, the gain that can be achieved by vectoring will be reduced

So have COMREG said goodbye to LLU? Do BT end up shutting down their DSLAMs? Or are they going to be forced to co-operate and cross link DSLAM controllers? Or just no vectoring....

I'm sure we'll get these answers in comreg publications 6-12 months from now.

grbear

ED E wrote: »

Oh thats interesting. The flyer would be eircom retail presumably, so they're probably paying the install fees in order to mop up the remaining ADSL customer base.

I can see our NetIndex rankings continuing to shoot up in the coming months.

Do the NetIndex rankings offer much beyond the average connection speed? More specifically do they show the percentage of people on different connection speeds, for instance 0-5, 5-15, 15-30 etc.?

17larsson

kaizersoze wrote: »

It also stated from that date on, the would begin upgrading all non-fibre broadband customers to eFibre at no extra cost and no change to current contracts.

They tie you into an 18 month contract. Even though there is no mention in that letter of it.

When they called me I asked was there an 18 month contract and they said no so I went ahead with it and after the installation I got a letter to say I was now in a new 18 month contract!

I queried the wording of the letter and she said 'no change to current contract' just means that you don't pay a penalty for leaving your old contract early.

Pricks.

Broadband has rarely had issues where I am in fairness though, but if I want to exit the contract 'early' they're getting no penalties from me

kaizersoze

17larsson wrote: »

They tie you into an 18 month contract. Even though there is no mention in that letter of it.

When they called me I asked was there an 18 month contract and they said no so I went ahead with it and after the installation I got a letter to say I was now in a new 18 month contract!

I queried the wording of the letter and she said 'no change to current contract' just means that you don't pay a penalty for leaving your old contract early.

Pricks.

Broadband has rarely had issues where I am in fairness though, but if I want to exit the contract 'early' they're getting no penalties from me

I signed up online so it said it was an 18 month contract but when I received the confirmation letter it said 12 months. I was tied to 12 months with landline/emobile contract anyway so I wasn't bothered.

If they're actively pushing people onto fibre as the latest letter suggests they may be dropping the contract requirement.

guil

I was just talking to an eircom tech out on the road and asked him about my exchange. Unfortunately he says there's nothing in the pipeline for it to be done.

MediaHaul

Ok guys need some advice from the people in the know here.

My line on fibre is capped at 'up to' 24mb as quoted by eircom.

Sky (who I am with) have said I'll get about 12mb down. I am currently getting 16mb down on adsl.

Is it worth my while getting sky to upgrade my line and take the 4mb hit in order to get fibre in my home?

People have suggested the upload speed will be better and eircom pitched that I would be uncongested on fibre?

I don't wanna change unless the fibre as a whole is worth it even though I'm dropping my down speed slightly.

Thanks in advance!

degsie

MediaHaul wrote: »

Ok guys need some advice from the people in the know here.

My line on fibre is capped at 'up to' 24mb as quoted by eircom.

Sky (who I am with) have said I'll get about 12mb down. I am currently getting 16mb down on adsl.

Is it worth my while getting sky to upgrade my line and take the 4mb hit in order to get fibre in my home?

People have suggested the upload speed will be better and eircom pitched that I would be uncongested on fibre?

I don't wanna change unless the fibre as a whole is worth it even though I'm dropping my down speed slightly.

Thanks in advance!

Are you directly connected to an exchange?

MediaHaul

I am yes. Main Celbridge, Kildare exchange about 200 / 300m away from my home

dbit

It has left me trying to find a house in cork areas, its tough as most towns have this nasty direct fed carry on , Looks like i will have to re-situate back into cork city. UPC for me thanks very much. Macroom still not a dicky bird on any solution being provisioned and for the most part i think that is down to the fact that they upgraded that exchange for un-congested adsl +2 some time ago and they deem that good enough for now. poppycock.