UFC 178 - McGregor-Poirier**Tune in from 3:30 onwards to see McGregor

Wrongway1985

ASOT wrote: »

Posted this in the conor thread so its obviosuly more relevant here.



What a horrible anticlimax from an event i was looking forward to, id rather see Conor / Poirier or Cowboy / Alvarez as a main event. MM v Cariaso is a joke of a matchup in the first place but i was fine with it being co main of 177, as a main event its the weakest of a number show in a LONG time!

Sickened but I think UFC174 the last one MM headlined prob worse as it wasn't held up with as strong an undercard as UFC178 has... well on paper at least.

UFC177 isn't the strongest card either so ya was happy with the flyweight title on there.

Also think it was a great platform for interest in the sport here for the people only tuning in to watch Conors fight witnessing Jones and DC throwdown could've possibly led them to return even if Conor wasn't involved, serious doubts MM v Cariaso could have same effect.

ASOT

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

Sickened but I think UFC174 the last one MM headlined prob worse as it wasn't held up with as strong an undercard as UFC178 has... well on paper at least.

UFC177 isn't the strongest card either so ya was happy with the flyweight title on there.

Also think it was a great platform for interest in the sport here for the people only tuning in to watch Conors fight witnessing Jones and DC throwdown could've possibly led them to return even if Conor wasn't involved, serious doubts MM v Cariaso could have same effect.

Id rather the Bagautinov fight over the Cariaso , as far as cards go though id much rather 178 obviously!

Yeah exactly it was a good platform for fans who were at UFC Dublin to see the next step up in Jones/DC! I fly out to Ibiza on the Sunday at 10am, not quite sure if il bother staying up for this now. Will most likely do the Conor fight then sleep!

dave1982

Glad UFC had a strong enough card to lose the main event and continue without it

Wrongway1985

dave1982 wrote: »

Glad UFC had a strong enough card to lose the main event and continue without it

Ya true but they were talking 1m buyrate before the change of bout no hope now.

I read at the time UFC174 which I previously mentioned that did only 90k or something.

ASOT

Gus says now that this is put back he wants to be back reinstated because he is the #1 contender, which to be honest he has a point.

"Alexander Gustafsson
39 minutes ago
I just heard the news that Jones is injured and the fight is rescheduled to January 3????
Until then, I will be more than ready, it was MY fight to begin with and I WANT the fight as the number 1 contender. End of story!!"

Wrongway1985

ASOT wrote: »

Gus says now that this is put back he wants to be back reinstated because he is the #1 contender, which to be honest he has a point.

"Alexander Gustafsson
39 minutes ago
I just heard the news that Jones is injured and the fight is rescheduled to January 3????
Until then, I will be more than ready, it was MY fight to begin with and I WANT the fight as the number 1 contender. End of story!!"

The plot thickens... tbh I thought that Jan 3 card was nailed on to be Hendricks v Lawler 2, where would that go now?

ASOT

Maybe January 31st card with Silva v Diaz?

I think Gus has a case to be fair for a shot in January, he technically is the #1 contender and if it was the other way around just say Jones got injured so Gus went to fight DC, then DC got injured the logical solution would be back to Jones v Gus? Its a tricky situation for the UFC to sort out now!

amkin25

Its seriously disappointing though isn't it,Conors fight is the first or second on the card right?
To be honest unless i'm having a great time i'll probably go to bed after his fight,no great fights on that card other than Conor v Poirer.

Am not a big fan of Cruz,he is Mighty Mouse mark 2 and then the main even we have a watered down Dominic Cruz in MM,both fights are sure to be decisions,definitely the 2 most boring divisions in the co and main event.

This scenario worked out perfect for the UFC in all fairness because with the brawl and everything they know Jones,Cormier will do big numbers so they are gonna stick them 2 now headlining a bad card when they do fight,very little value these days for the UFC viewer,thought this was shaping up to be a great event but i'll still buy it now for Conors fight,but if Conor wasn't on it i wouldn't touch this event,Co and main event Cruz and MM,2 decision fighters in the 2 lowest divisions plus a womans fight.

ASOT

amkin25 wrote: »

Its seriously disappointing though isn't it,Conors fight is the first or second on the card right?
To be honest unless i'm having a great time i'll probably go to bed after his fight,no great fights on that card other than Conor v Poirer.

Am not a big fan of Cruz,he is Mighty Mouse mark 2 and then the main even we have a watered down Dominic Cruz in MM,both fights are sure to be decisions,definitely the 2 most boring divisions in the co and main event.

This scenario worked out perfect for the UFC in all fairness because with the brawl and everything they know Jones,Cormier will do big numbers so they are gonna stick them 2 now headlining a bad card when they do fight,very little value these days for the UFC viewer,thought this was shaping up to be a great event but i'll still buy it now for Conors fight,but if Conor wasn't on it i wouldn't touch this event,Co and main event Cruz and MM,2 decision fighters in the 2 lowest divisions plus a womans fight.

Conors fight is the Co Main Even, so youl be up for the night if your wanting to see it! Its still a fairly stacked card especially if they add Alvarez/Cowboy but its just disappointing to go from Jones/DC to MM/Cariaso which is a horrible mismatch. He doesnt deserve a title shot, he got one just for the fact it was awkward timing with people just after fighting. I would have much rathered see McCal/Dodson/Linker/Formiga in there!

I doubt there going to do that with the fight either, the two events in January will either have one of Lawler/Hendricks 2 / Silva/Diaz so whichever card it gets added to will be stacked to the rafters IMO.

amkin25

ASOT wrote: »

Conors fight is the Co Main Even, so youl be up for the night if your wanting to see it! Its still a fairly stacked card especially if they add Alvarez/Cowboy but its just disappointing to go from Jones/DC to MM/Cariaso which is a horrible mismatch. He doesnt deserve a title shot, he got one just for the fact it was awkward timing with people just after fighting. I would have much rathered see McCal/Dodson/Linker/Formiga in there!

I doubt there going to do that with the fight either, the two events in January will either have one of Lawler/Hendricks 2 / Silva/Diaz so whichever card it gets added to will be stacked to the rafters IMO.

I hope you're right about Conor being co main event,makes sense just didn't pick that up anywhere.

ASOT

amkin25 wrote: »

I hope you're right about Conor being co main event,makes sense just didn't pick that up anywhere.

I dont know if hes officially confirmed as co main i think he is? But it is anyway thats why he as doing the Q&A /Media Events with Jones & DC!

amkin25

ASOT wrote: »

I dont know if hes officially confirmed as co main i think he is? But it is anyway thats why he as doing the Q&A /Media Events with Jones & DC!

I think the Q&A was because it obviously had the most interest after Jones,Cormier but Cruz was still being left as co main i thought.

They wouldn't do a Q&A with Cruz as his opponent isn't really as well known as Poirer and Conor possibly,i can't really answer for sure the logic in it not being the co main event,but on the UFC website Cruz was marked down as co main up until recently enough,with Conor being the first or second fight on the main card.

ASOT

amkin25 wrote: »

I think the Q&A was because it obviously had the most interest after Jones,Cormier but Cruz was still being left as co main i thought.

They wouldn't do a Q&A with Cruz as his opponent isn't really as well known as Poirer and Conor possibly,i can't really answer for sure the logic in it not being the co main event,but on the UFC website Cruz was marked down as co main up until recently enough,with Conor being the first or second fight on the main card.

Yeah im not sure its confirmed yet anyway, but MMA Fighting seem to think it will be the co main aswell! http://www.mmafighting.com/fight/4122/conor-mcgregor-vs-dustin-poirier

"UFC featherweight star Conor McGregor was present at the UFC Media Day in New York yesterday, where he discussed a variety of topics including his co-main event against Dustin Poirier at UFC 178."

csallmighty

Bollox, was really looking forward to this. Would've stayed up for the whole thing. Now I just hope Conor's fight happens early as possible on the card so I can go to bed straight after. I rarely stay up to watch cards anymore I just watch them the next day while avoiding spoilers.

adamski8

Id rather see jones v gus and cormier take care if his knee and fight the winner.

Davei141

All the momentum the UFC has built up over the last while is being eroded big time. It is back to the usual routine of huge fights that people want to see being scrapped. Johnson vs Cariaso is a fight that should never happen never mind headlining the most stacked card in a looong time. Anticlimax was the word used before and that is exactly what it is. Still a great card, crap main event though.

slicus ricus

adamski8 wrote: »

Id rather see jones v gus and cormier take care if his knee and fight the winner.

It is Jones who has injured his leg though. Gustafsson is still not fit to fight due to an injured knee.

Funnily enough, Cormier is the only one out of the 3 that is not sidelined with a leg injury!!

MrStuffins

And coming into this whole thing, he was the one who had a knee injury! He was scheduled to have surgery!

slicus ricus

MrStuffins wrote: »

And coming into this whole thing, he was the one who had a knee injury! He was scheduled to have surgery!

Ah right, wasn't aware of that, just read up on it there and see that Cormier has a partial ACL tear, which is a serious enough injury. Apologies adamski8 for correcting you when you were in fact correct.

Fair play to the guy for being willing to fight Jones with a partial ACL tear, perhaps a case of more guts than brains.

MartyMcFly84

Most fighters carry some kind of injury. No one goes in 100% and as far as injuries go a partial ACL tear is not the worst. Granted Jones did say he will target DCs knees.

I know people who have fought with no ACLs. Its really depends on the person and how they adapt to the injury.

evil_seed

sheehy83 wrote: »

Aw man!!!! Well I know johnson is the champ but conor vs dustin is a much more interesting fight.

in your opinion. a championship fight is always greater than a normal fight. that's mine and it appears the UFCs also

Zero-Cool

evil_seed wrote: »

in your opinion. a championship fight is always greater than a normal fight. that's mine and it appears the UFCs also

Obviously and I would bet UFC think it too but no way you couldn't have a title fight fight behind a non title fight.

Davei141

evil_seed wrote: »

in your opinion. a championship fight is always greater than a normal fight. that's mine and it appears the UFCs also

I would pick any other fight on the 178 main card ahead of watching MM vs Cariaso. That is not a slight on the Flyweights, it is a slight on Cariaso. He has no business being in the cage with MM.

MrStuffins

Sure before this, MM v Cariaso was a Co-Main that they weren't even promoting in the ads. There was an ad that advertised Dillashaw v Barao & Jones v Cormier as two big title fights in the space of a month. No mention of the 125 belt. Now all of a sudden it's the headliner?

varuka

Mousasi v Jacare 2 would be a better new UFC 178 main event instead of the Fight Night they're in soon.

Davei141

MrStuffins wrote: »

Sure before this, MM v Cariaso was a Co-Main that they weren't even promoting in the ads. There was an ad that advertised Dillashaw v Barao & Jones v Cormier as two big title fights in the space of a month. No mention of the 125 belt. Now all of a sudden it's the headliner?

I would rather it stay on the 177 card, 178 is stacked to the absolute rafters while 177 is looking like a fightnight card below Barao Vs Dillashaw (Still looks like a great night of fights though).

gimmick

ASOT wrote: »

Gus says now that this is put back he wants to be back reinstated because he is the #1 contender, which to be honest he has a point.

"Alexander Gustafsson
39 minutes ago
I just heard the news that Jones is injured and the fight is rescheduled to January 3????
Until then, I will be more than ready, it was MY fight to begin with and I WANT the fight as the number 1 contender. End of story!!"

I am calling it now. January 3rd 2015 UFC will have the first ever 3 WAY DANCE for the LHW title :pac:

Davei141

gimmick wrote: »

I am calling it now. January 3rd 2015 UFC will have the first ever 3 WAY DANCE for the LHW title :pac:

And 2 of them will still get injured!

Mr. Manager

Gustafsson not getting the rematch is a complete joke.

ASOT

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

Gustafsson not getting the rematch is a complete joke.

Has it been confirmed he wont yet? I know hes campaigning for it now. Its the fairest option lets me honest he is the number one contender, but i could see the UFC being wary incase he beats Jones and the hype of Jones/DC is gone then!

Davei141

How is Gus not getting a rematch a joke? He had his shot and got injured, while DC is still ready to go. It would hardly be fair fecking DC over because Jones got injured.

Mr. Manager

Davei141 wrote: »

How is Gus not getting a rematch a joke? He had his shot and got injured, while DC is still ready to go. It would hardly be fair fecking DC over because Jones got injured.

Both Jones and Gustafsson should be healed and ready to fight at the same time. It was originally his fight to begin with. DC was replacing him cause of the injury. Now that Jones is injured, there's no need to replace him. They can both just wait.

Davei141

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

Both Jones and Gustafsson should be healed and ready to fight at the same time. It was originally his fight to begin with. DC was replacing him cause of the injury. Now that Jones is injured, there's no need to replace him. They can both just wait.

So screw over the only guy that has been reliable in all this? Gus still gets his shot, just after DC.

Mr. Manager

Davei141 wrote: »

So screw over the only guy that has been reliable in all this? Gus still gets his shot, just after DC.

How is he getting screwed over? He wasn't meant to fight for the title in the first place. Was doing a favor by stepping up and replacing AG.

Make him fight Johnson or something in the mean time

Zero-Cool

What's DJ on about??

Bad: You'll have to wait a bit longer to see me win again. Good: I'm the new UFC 178 headliner. Bout time that card gets a real main event.

ASOT

sheehy83 wrote: »

What's DJ on about??

He has to say it i suppose, to try build some hype because it will be non existent for his fight. Conor will make some much money promoting the **** out of this now, i assume he will head the media front!!

Its just such a pointless match, are the odds up yet? Im expecting 1/10 minimum for DJ.

Masked Man

He's making a joke. It's lighthearted and not meant to be taken seriously.

Easy Rod

sheehy83 wrote: »

What's DJ on about??

I'd be fairly sure that'd be a bit of sarcasm on his part.

Zero-Cool

I was thinking that but sounded weird as a joke, ah whatever. Like Stuffins said, went from one of the most anticipated fights of the year to the absolute least.

the_doctor199

Still looking at getting over to this, has anyone looked into the cheapest way of getting to Vegas?

Davei141

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

How is he getting screwed over? He wasn't meant to fight for the title in the first place. Was doing a favor by stepping up and replacing AG.

Make him fight Johnson or something in the mean time

Yeah DC stepped up and deserves his shot now, it's not his fault Jones gets injured. Saying to DC "Yeah thanks for stepping up and being the only one ready to fight in all this but please feck off for a while" would have been the only joke.

adamski8

Yeah i think DC should get it as he didnt pull out but i think he should for his own health and chances of winning the belt get the surgery and let gus fight jones.

Glock Lesnar

Cormier is 35 but I think his although style lends itself to longevity hs body has taken a lot of abuse from his wrestling career and I doubt we're going to see the best Cormier when he does get around to fighting Jones.

dulux99

I've been following MMA for about 7 or 8 years religiously, and can't ever remember being so deflated about a fight being cancelled. Probably cos Conor was co main, on what was going to be undoubtedly the biggest PPV of the year.

I know the UFC's hands are tied and there's nothing they can do, but going from Jones/Cormier to Johnson/Carasio actually feels like they're rubbing salt in the wounds!

Awful shame, this fight was getting more coverage than any title fight I can remember in ages, even including the two Silva/Weidman fights

dave1982

My biggest disappointment over a fight being cancelled was when Vitor pulled out the 1st Anderson fight

Wrongway1985

Some of the fights between coaches on TUF being pulled were annoying build up a match over the course of series (especially if I tuned in to it) and have it cancelled some dose out of these I guess Lesnar v Dos Santos at the time season was one of the worst and we didnt even get to witness the bout , although some initially cancelled and rescheduled felt momentum from show lost.

John_D80

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

Some of the fights between coaches on TUF being pulled were annoying build up a match over the course of series (especially if I tuned in to it) and have it cancelled some dose out of these I guess Lesnar v Dos Santos at the time season was one of the worst and we didnt even get to witness the bout , although some initially cancelled and rescheduled felt momentum from show lost.

Eh??

Mellor

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

Some of the fights between coaches on TUF being pulled were annoying build up a match over the course of series (especially if I tuned in to it) and have it cancelled some dose out of these I guess Lesnar v Dos Santos at the time season was one of the worst and we didnt even get to witness the bout , although some initially cancelled and rescheduled felt momentum from show lost.

Full stops man. They're free.

akelly02

dulux99 wrote: »

I've been following MMA for about 7 or 8 years religiously, and can't ever remember being so deflated about a fight being cancelled. Probably cos Conor was co main, on what was going to be undoubtedly the biggest PPV of the year.

I know the UFC's hands are tied and there's nothing they can do, but going from Jones/Cormier to Johnson/Carasio actually feels like they're rubbing salt in the wounds!

Awful shame, this fight was getting more coverage than any title fight I can remember in ages, even including the two Silva/Weidman fights

Hi Lads probably stupid question here, but what channel will this UFC 178 be on ppv?

ASOT

akelly02 wrote: »

Hi Lads probably stupid question here, but what channel will this UFC 178 be on ppv?

BT Sports 1 mate!