Scottish Independence yea or nay

cruiserweight

n-dawg wrote: »

Right that's me voted.... Looked like about 75% had voted at my station, just over an hour left. Reportedly some stations have closed because they have reached 100% turnout.

Official word is that no stations have closed and all will remain open until 10pm irrespective of turnout. Apparently it is possible to drop in postal votes to polling stations.

n-dawg

cruiserweight wrote: »

Official word is that no stations have closed and all will remain open until 10pm irrespective of turnout. Apparently it is possible to drop in postal votes to polling stations.

Sorry yes, I stand corrected... it was just a rumour doing the rounds.

bpb101

AlanS181824 wrote: »

We'll find out at about 8am tomorrow!

Hopefully Scotland will finally be free.

more like 6/6:30

feargale

murphaph wrote: »

The incumbent government generally dislikes high turnout so even makes it as difficult as possible for people IN Ireland to vote. In Germany ALL elections are held on Sundays to ensure maximum opportunity to vote. The missus thinks it's amazing that Ireland holds elections on working days mid week and actually she's right...it's insane and no sitting government will change it as it generally works against their chances or re-election.

My post is slightly off topic but relevant to your post. Worse than what you cite, the biggest insult offered to Irish voters in recent years was as follows:
At some referendum or other ( I can't recall what about, ) the government fixed election day to facilitate students voting. I think that subsequently on one occasion they actually spread voting over two days with similar facilitation in mind. So far so good. But then there was yet another referendum, and the government reverted to the old arrangement because students were expected to vote " the wrong way " in that particular poll, and therefore had to be discouraged from voting. So we now have a bigger democratic deficit than ever, with a situation where governments can and will fix polling day or days according to who they want or don't want to vote. It always amazes me that these abuses are generally not challenged.

NIMAN

Perhaps us Irish should be praying for a 'No' vote?

According to a few economists, Scotland would be a big competitor for multi-nationals etc.

AlanS181824

bpb101 wrote: »

more like 6/6:30

Oh that's good then.

AlanS181824

NIMAN wrote: »

Perhaps us Irish should be praying for a 'No' vote?

According to a few economists, Scotland would be a big competitor for multi-nationals etc.

I don't agree with this, competition is always a good thing.

TheCitizen

NIMAN wrote: »

Perhaps us Irish should be praying for a 'No' vote?

According to a few economists, Scotland would be a big competitor for multi-nationals etc.

A small minded approach like that will get you nowhere.

TheCitizen

Polls closed. Fingers crossed for Yes.

Gerry T

AlanS181824 wrote: »

I don't agree with this, competition is always a good thing.

Tell that to the Dublin taxi drivers !
A business needs a compeditive advantage, ours is our tax rates for FDI, the last thing we need is a country on our door step which could decide to match our offering, that's not good.

bpb101

A Nation has decided. In 8 hours we shall know if they will leave what once the biggest empire in the world.

stv provided an all night show

fryup

anyone want to call it ???

for my twopence worth i reckon.........................No will shade it

bpb101

fryup wrote: »

anyone want to call it ???

for my twopence worth i reckon.........................No will shade it

i was thinking no for so long but i think they might just get it
close , very close. Hope so.

bpb101

stv says some of the island will have results by 1/1:30/2 am

fryup

when do they start counting??

bpb101

fryup wrote: »

when do they start counting??

when in the highlands there waiting for the plane to land. fist box arrived from next door

macplaxton

2315, from a tweet.

Announced via tannoy on media centre: first boxes will arrive at 10.45 from polling stations to be opened at 11.15.

oscarBravo

Sam Russell wrote: »

There are as many stupid people who agree with the proposition as do not agree with it, and there are as many experts in the same position. They cancel each other out.

Sadly, it appears not.

kronsich

Both BBC and Sky saying most exit poles are NO vote. They're saying Downing St are happy with the feedback so far.

The undecided voters seem to have swung it

cruiserweight

YouGov predicts 54% No and 46% Yes https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/512715587387027456

bpb101

97.2% registered
postal being voted in Glasgow

fryup

kronsich wrote: »

Both BBC and Sky saying most exit poles are NO vote. They're saying Downing St are happy with the feedback so far.

i hope Cameron doesn't do a Kinnock and get too cocky too soon

remember this from 92 when labour "thought" they had it in the bag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROKXlvYMKQc

Jelle1880

The Sun already running with a victory for No, bit early sure ?

Thargor

Nah the No's have it, YouGov guy on Sky giving a 99% chance of victory.

Jelle1880

I know, but they haven't even started counting, right ?

cruiserweight

Ruth Davidson on BBC Scotland said that initial tallies coming in from counting centres are positive for the no side. Still very very early and of course as she is leader of the Scottish Conservatives this should be taken with a pinch of salt. Plus I think initial tallies are for postal votes

bpb101

Jelle1880 wrote: »

The Sun already running with a victory for No, bit early sure ?

if its a yes, they lose a fortune. Have you got a source on this

bpb101

cruiserweight wrote: »

Ruth Davidson on BBC Scotland said that initial tallies coming in from counting centres are positive for the no side. Still very very early and of course as she is leader of the Scottish Conservatives this should be taken with a pinch of salt

boxes arent open till 11:15 #bullbybbc

some boxes only arrived now in ingliston (national count centre)

cruiserweight

bpb101 wrote: »

boxes arent open till 11:15 #bullbybbc

Postal ballots already in, saw people counting live on BBC Scotland

bpb101

cruiserweight wrote: »

Postal ballots already in, saw people counting live on BBC Scotland

im on stv , havent seen anything

bpb101

im the world thinks
90% says go for it
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/09/18/379133/press-tv-poll-90-back-scots-indep/

bpb101

stv predictions

bpb101

folks , im off for the night. i hope , stress hope i get up in times for the results .
folks , its been a great thread. I hope it continues during the hopeful negotiations.

regards

A nation holds it breath.

fryup

^^^^^^^^^^

so how does stv chart breakdown in laymans terms??

Jelle1880

bpb101 wrote: »

if its a yes, they lose a fortune. Have you got a source on this

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/referendum/5924445/scotland-rejects-independence-yougov-poll.html?CMP=SOC-Sun-Facebook-11_20_2013-191-0-0-0

Just saw it's just another YouGov poll actually :pac:

kryogen

Think it will be close to a 60% win for the No side

Sand

Given how aggressive and nasty some of the Yes campaign has been, if a No vote has been achieved, political and media figures will need to invest in personal security for the next couple of weeks/months.

OneColdHand

fryup wrote: »

^^^^^^^^^^

so how does stv chart breakdown in laymans terms??

It's not so much a prediction (as in they aren't making a prediction for an overall result) as a starting point for making comparisons as results come in from various constituencies during the night.

Grudaire

Sand wrote: »

Given how aggressive and nasty some of the Yes campaign has been, if a No vote has been achieved, political and media figures will need to invest in personal security for the next couple of weeks/months.

You don't believe the police statement then?

BoJack Horseman

Sand wrote: »

Given how aggressive and nasty some of the Yes campaign has been, if a No vote has been achieved, political and media figures will need to invest in personal security for the next couple of weeks/months.

Cept that won't be the case.

Sand

I believe it only takes a handful of angry, bitter people who see the "other side" as traitors to create a tragedy. I don't think there will be strife on the streets, but were I a prominent media or political figure on the Yes side I'd be investing in personal security until tempers cooled.

comongethappy

Sand wrote: »

I believe it only takes a handful of angry, bitter people who see the "other side" as traitors to create a tragedy. I don't think there will be strife on the streets, but were I a prominent media or political figure on the Yes side I'd be investing in personal security until tempers cooled.

You said that already.
Doubling up doesn't enhance plausibility.
Fear mongering without basis..... You should work for the BBC!

tayto lover

Is it possible that people are underestimating the young voters who are likely to vote Yes i wonder.

fryup

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

good point

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

tayto lover wrote: »

Is it possible that people are underestimating the young voters who are likely to vote Yes i wonder.

I am very interested to see if we get a break down of the votes. I'd love to see exactly how the 16-18 group voted.

BoJack Horseman

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

I am very interested to see if we get a break down of the votes. I'd love to see exactly how the 16-18 group voted.

Probably slightly 'No', but few enough registered (109,000).

TheCitizen

If it is No, it's disappointing.

Still the Yes campaign deserves huge respect and plaudits for a great campaign against the establishment, the MSM and other vested interests.

If it's No, they should dust themselves down and come back again in a few years. In the meantime they should ensure the promises of more devolution are delivered and build on those extra powers to cement further devolution that will ultimately lead to Independence.

fryup

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Probably slightly 'No', but few enough registered (109,000).

probably to busy masturbating

BoJack Horseman

fryup wrote: »

probably to busy masturbating

Probably?

Certainly.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

90% of 121,497 teens eligible registered to vote.