Off Topic Thread V2.0

wotzgoingon

New vulnerabilities found in Intel chips. Hasn't been released yet as to give chip makers time to react.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/spectre-ng-vulnerabilities-intel-arm-amd,37002.html

Digital Solitude

wotzgoingon wrote: »

New vulnerabilities found in Intel chips. Hasn't been released yet as to give chip makers time to react.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/spectre-ng-vulnerabilities-intel-arm-amd,37002.html

Deja vu?

Cuddlesworth

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Deja vu?

One of the points raised by the industry is that once people figured out how to exploit branch prediction, especially the way Intel did it, its going to be near impossible to stop it because the fixes are really specific work arounds.

L

Hrrm. I'm turning over doing a system refresh in my head - anyone have some good review sites/recommendations for current PSUs and AM4 Motherboards?

Last time I did a refresh, I ended up spending as much long term on cable extensions and PCI-e cards to add things like USB 3 headers as I did on the original board. I'd like to learn from my mistake and reduce the clutter this time around.

Joshua J

wotzgoingon wrote: »

New vulnerabilities found in Intel chips. Hasn't been released yet as to give chip makers time to react.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/spectre-ng-vulnerabilities-intel-arm-amd,37002.html

Seriously considering trading in my 7700 and mb and switching to a Ryzen setup.

wotzgoingon

Joshua J wrote: »

Seriously considering trading in my 7700 and mb and switching to a Ryzen setup.

I would also. The second gen Ryzen chips are very good.

Gastarbeiter

Go for 1080ti

Gumbi

Back again with sound issues - this time with my own PC! I'm completely stumped. Repasted CPU and GPU, put system back together, and around that time (don't see how the repasting could have affected it - was just coincidence IMO, I'm not using PC every day so I can't pin pint exactly when this broke for me) my sound completely broke.

I've tried every driver under the sun. Universal drivers, the drivers on the realtek website (which I had already), reinstalled drivers, re-enabled Windows audio services. No sound. Windows detects sound coming thought my speakers. And yet I hear nothing. Nothing through the headphone jack on my system either.

I reset my PC (reinstall of Windows), no joy. The Creator update a few days ago didn't help. I had tried to do a system restore to prior Windows updates and revert to a previous build before that, but it was failing for me (despite no apparent corruptions in the ini files which I checked as per advice online).

USB audio thingy works for me for now, but it's pretty sh!tty sound-wise. Please help! I have a Z87x-D3H.

Thanks.

Skerries

L wrote: »

Hrrm. I'm turning over doing a system refresh in my head - anyone have some good review sites/recommendations for current PSUs and AM4 Motherboards?

I'm looking at doing a 2700x build and was looking at this x470 board
probably overspecced but might as well get it in case I need the extra specs

Doge

Gumbi wrote: »

Back again with sound issues - this time with my own PC! I'm completely stumped. Repasted CPU and GPU, put system back together, and around that time (don't see how the repasting could have affected it - was just coincidence IMO, I'm not using PC every day so I can't pin pint exactly when this broke for me) my sound completely broke.

I've tried every driver under the sun. Universal drivers, the drivers on the realtek website (which I had already), reinstalled drivers, re-enabled Windows audio services. No sound. Windows detects sound coming thought my speakers. And yet I hear nothing. Nothing through the headphone jack on my system either.

I reset my PC (reinstall of Windows), no joy. The Creator update a few days ago didn't help. I had tried to do a system restore to prior Windows updates and revert to a previous build before that, but it was failing for me (despite no apparent corruptions in the ini files which I checked as per advice online).

USB audio thingy works for me for now, but it's pretty sh!tty sound-wise. Please help! I have a Z87x-D3H.

Thanks.

You hardly have it set to output audio digitally in the sound card settings?

K.O.Kiki

L wrote: »

Hrrm. I'm turning over doing a system refresh in my head - anyone have some good review sites/recommendations for current PSUs and AM4 Motherboards?

Last time I did a refresh, I ended up spending as much long term on cable extensions and PCI-e cards to add things like USB 3 headers as I did on the original board. I'd like to learn from my mistake and reduce the clutter this time around.

For PSUs:
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/PSUReviewDatabase.html
http://www.jonnyguru.com/

But tbh 90% of systems will do fine with any decent 550-650W Gold-rated PSU; EVGA, Corsair & Seasonic make great units in that bracket.

I like to use Geizhals to deep-dive into motherboard specs before searching out reviews.

Gumbi

Doge wrote: »

You hardly have it set to output audio digitally in the sound card settings?

Nope, outputting through the speaker as it always have. I even had a refresher of troubleshooting basic sound issues here recently when asking for help due to my inability to fix a sound issue remotely for someone (turns out I was doing everything right except the damn monitor had no speakers built into it despite me being told it had LOL).

Skerries

wotzgoingon

Haha! I'm not sure if it is a joke or what.

Redfox25

I bet its really cool though.........

TerrorFirmer

You guys want a joke? Someone messaged me the other day.

"Do you've something that can play GTA V at ultra settings at 150fps? Budget around 150-200."

I can only hope it's a joke.

Redfox25

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

You guys want a joke? Someone messaged me the other day.

"Do you've something that can play GTA V at ultra settings at 150fps? Budget around 150-200."

I can only hope it's a joke.

I only hope you gave him an honest response!

Mickeroo

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

You guys want a joke? Someone messaged me the other day.

"Do you've something that can play GTA V at ultra settings at 150fps? Budget around 150-200."

I can only hope it's a joke.

So...uh....do you?

Lu Tze

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

You guys want a joke? Someone messaged me the other day.

"Do you've something that can play GTA V at ultra settings at 150fps? Budget around 150-200."

I can only hope it's a joke.

At 640 X 480 resolution!

PopePalpatine

Maybe if he was talking 150-200 bitcoins, he would have a hope.

TerrorFirmer

Mickeroo wrote: »

So...uh....do you?

I get these kind of unrealistic questions all the time and I always try to meet someone halfway if I can....like I tell the person I can give them something like a 4th gen i3 + GTX1050 for 300 that would run stuff like that at high/very high settings reasonably well....then I course I get the "would ya take 200 for it" or "I'm looking for something closer to my budget". OK, good luck with that search!

My all time favorite at Christmas time though I felt really bad

Person: "Looking for something for me son he wants to play the new Call of Duty and Battlefield, would ya take 200 for this" (something like a GTX1050/i5 4590/8GB)
Me: "Sorry, that's way too low. I'd take 350 but 200 is just far too low"
(later) Person "never mind I got one somewhere else"

Can't remember exactly but had a look at his comments out of curiousity and he'd agreed to buy something like a Core2Quad with a Radeon 5450 for 200.

Imagine the excitement in that house Christmas morning trying to play Battlefield 1 for the first time.

Amazingly, but unsurprisingly, someone's given it a go on Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee8yiuQw3Aw

will56

Can I get a little help with monitor set up.

I've a Sapphire 560 pulse 4gb with a Display port, a DVI and a HDMI output.

I have 3 monitors, 2 small Dells and a 26" HP. Not gaming on all 3, its purely for workspace. Gaming will be done on the HP monitor only

2 dells have DVI inputs and the HP only has HDMI.
Do I just get a DP to DVI adaptor and are these easy to come by ?

Am I likely to encounter any issues connecting a DVI monitor to the DP output on the GPU ?

glynf

will56 wrote: »

Can I get a little help with monitor set up.

I've a Sapphire 560 pulse 4gb with a Display port, a DVI and a HDMI output.

I have 3 monitors, 2 small Dells and a 26" HP. Not gaming on all 3, its purely for workspace. Gaming will be done on the HP monitor only

2 dells have DVI inputs and the HP only has HDMI.
Do I just get a DP to DVI adaptor and are these easy to come by ?

Am I likely to encounter any issues connecting a DVI monitor to the DP output on the GPU ?

DP to DVI converters are reasonable money £6 on amazon, you can also get a DP to DVI cable if you don't have any spare DVI cables about.

Your GPU supports three monitors so you should be good.

will56

glynf wrote: »

DP to DVI converters are reasonable money £6 on amazon, you can also get a DP to DVI cable if you don't have any spare DVI cables about.

Your GPU supports three monitors so you should be good.

Its one of those things that was wrecking my head till I wrote it out :rolleyes:

I'm going HDMI to HDMI, DVI to DVI and then DP to DVI (Cable ordered)

SickBoy

Skerries wrote: »

wotzgoingon

Korean 4K 120Hz monitors. I don't know what beast of a card will run it though.

https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu_displays/4k_120hz_monitors_arrive_from_korean_manufacturers_-_wasabi_mango_uhd430_real4k/1

wotzgoingon

Intel still having problems with 10nm while TSMC are releasing details about the advantages of their future 5nm over 7nm.

Samuel T. Cogley

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Intel still having problems with 10nm while TSMC are releasing details about the advantages of their future 5nm over 7nm.

They're not directly comparable between fabs apparently.

Tar.Aldarion

What's the deal with the asus z270 maximus IX, why is it so expensive? £256.97
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-1151-MAXIMUS-HERO-Motherboard/dp/B01NCON196/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1525942718&sr=8-1&keywords=asus+maximus+ix+hero

People seem to be moving onto the z370 anyway with newer cpus, so this will age badly from a reselling point of view?

Xenoronin

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

What's the deal with the asus z270 maximus IX, why is it so expensive? £256.97
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-1151-MAXIMUS-HERO-Motherboard/dp/B01NCON196/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1525942718&sr=8-1&keywords=asus+maximus+ix+hero

People seem to be moving onto the z370 anyway with newer cpus, so this will age badly from a reselling point of view?

They aren't moving onto z370 by choice. They have to. The new Coffee Lake CPUs (8th gen intel) are not compatible with any other chipset.

Z270 can only support Sky Lake and Kaby Lake (6th and 7th generation Intel).
It is an overclocking+SLI (two pci-e 3.0 x16) board which explains the price, but even then, it jumped in price once it went out of stock.

https://uk.camelcamelcamel.com/ASUS-1151-MAXIMUS-HERO-Motherboard/product/B01NCON196?context=search

Reselling? Difficult to say. AMD forced progression from Intel, so more cores are now being pushed. The limitation of 4c8t max on Z270 might push the price down faster. On the other hand, it is still a damn good board that should hold a decent amount of value since it supports many modern features (usb-c, usb3.1, 2x m.2 sockets), and isn't that old at all.

Saadyst

I see overclockers have 1080s and 1080ti on offer: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/geforce-gtx-deals-1080ti-679-1080-459-1070ti-399-1060-6g-249.18819599/

Question is, is it worth it this time, with new cards maybe not too far away?

I've a radeon fury and don't think there's many other options for me to upgrade..

Cuddlesworth

Saadyst wrote: »

I see overclockers have 1080s and 1080ti on offer: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/geforce-gtx-deals-1080ti-679-1080-459-1070ti-399-1060-6g-249.18819599/

Question is, is it worth it this time, with new cards maybe not too far away?

I've a radeon fury and don't think there's many other options for me to upgrade..

Gibbo wrote:

OK this is pretty much the first time in past 6 months plus where we've not only achieved MSRP but actually improved on them somewhat, its been hard to hit these price points as over the past week or so the pound weakening has made it very hard to hit these price points, as such were just sacrificing margin our side to get them this low, with stocks landing this week its not easy, but here are the highlights:

Translation, we have a lot of stock sitting on shelves not going anywhere with new cards coming out soon so we have to stop price gouging and try to clear stock.

The right answer is buy what you can afford when you want it and not worry about new products coming out. Because prices can shoot back up with bitcoin seeing swings upwards again and other coins are ASIC hardening. Retailers are seeing stock, consumers have mostly just walked away and stock is there. But nobody knows what will happen in 2 months time.

K.O.Kiki

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Translation, we have a lot of stock sitting on shelves not going anywhere with new cards coming out soon so we have to stop price gouging and try to clear stock.

The right answer is buy what you can afford when you want it and not worry about new products coming out. Because prices can shoot back up with bitcoin seeing swings upwards again and other coins are ASIC hardening. Retailers are seeing stock, consumers have mostly just walked away and stock is there. But nobody knows what will happen in 2 months time.

Pretty much.
I'm gonna hold out until 1070Ti / 1080 drops to £400 again.

TerrorFirmer

I think OCUK have the Zotac 1070Ti mini for £399 at the moment which is pretty good.

I've decided I'm just going to stick with my old GTX690 or R9 280X for the rest of this generation (whichever I'm left with). All I've played in months is Overwatch anyway so I can afford to wait it out!

Skerries

twinsen

Skerries wrote: »

Yeah, I wouldn't bother with buying GPU now, since new ones are around the corner. It has been 2 years now since gtx 1070 and 1080 were released.

ED E

Funny little frustration at the minute:




Bought one of these years ago
Rubber on the wheel was flawed by design, slowly turned to dust
Went to RMA and got a Wireless Mouse 3000 as they disco'd the X3
Still using the X3 just fine for a few years

Now, every now and then the X3 freezes for 3-4 minutes, then poof back to normal. Unplug/replug doesnt change anything. When its frozen the DPI modes don't toggle (hardware controlled not sw).

I could get a new mouse...but I'm tempted to try board repair just because I'm so used to this now. Should I ghetto reflow it? :pac:

Squaredude

ED E wrote: »

Funny little frustration at the minute:




Bought one of these years ago
Rubber on the wheel was flawed by design, slowly turned to dust
Went to RMA and got a Wireless Mouse 3000 as they disco'd the X3
Still using the X3 just fine for a few years

Now, every now and then the X3 freezes for 3-4 minutes, then poof back to normal. Unplug/replug doesnt change anything. When its frozen the DPI modes don't toggle (hardware controlled not sw).

I could get a new mouse...but I'm tempted to try board repair just because I'm so used to this now. Should I ghetto reflow it? :pac:

Stick it in the oven that's how I used to fix the rrod on the xbox 360

savemejebus

Found an unopened Logitech G9X that i'd forgotten I had in the bottom of my parts box, anyone got an idea of how it compares to the G402 and what a fair price for one is these days if i put it on adverts?

K.O.Kiki

savemejebus wrote: »

Found an unopened Logitech G9X that i'd forgotten I had in the bottom of my parts box, anyone got an idea of how it compares to the G402 and what a fair price for one is these days if i put it on adverts?

G402 might should have a better sensor (being newer) but I wouldn't know exactly.
(G402: Avago AM010)

G9X sells for upwards of €100 boxed on eBay.

Gehad_JoyRider

Having loads of computer fun, Wolfenstein New Order will launch but all the Bethesda and machine games splashes lag out audio drops, but weirdly when I tap out I can here the audio fine and goes right up to the menu screen. But tab back in and it all turns to crap again.

Anyone have any ideas?

Gerrymandering reborn

Nvidia announce gtx 1050 3GB

Longing

Hi!

Would anyone know why the motherboard below size is posted 30.5 x 33 x 7.6 cm. Seems off.

I thought the standard ATX size is 12.0-in x 9.6-in, 30.5 cm x 24.4

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07BMV9WJ4?m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&tag=idealocouk-21&ascsubtag=EmFyWqIDOs41g0FM26KfHg

Building a new build for i5 8400. Anyhelp much appreciated.

K.O.Kiki

Longing wrote: »

Hi!

Would anyone know why the motherboard below size is posted 30.5 x 33 x 7.6 cm. Seems off.

I thought the standard ATX size is 12.0-in x 9.6-in, 30.5 cm x 24.4

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07BMV9WJ4?m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&tag=idealocouk-21&ascsubtag=EmFyWqIDOs41g0FM26KfHg

Building a new build for i5 8400. Anyhelp much appreciated.

https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Fatal1ty%20B360%20Gaming%20K4/index.asp#Specification

Maybe the seller listed the cardboard box dimensions.

Longing

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Fatal1ty%20B360%20Gaming%20K4/index.asp#Specification

Maybe the seller listed the cardboard box dimensions.

True. That does seem about right if he did.

Xenoronin

Nvm dun goofed and didn't read what Kiki said. New forums won't let me hide my shame...
Oh that's super weird... swapped back to legacy and it looks like i have deleted my shame? I'm not usually one for saying "new is bad" but dear god. Everything is so much clearer in the old layout.

K.O.Kiki

I still can't believe it's nearly 2 years since GTX 1080 released and not much has happened other than crypto/NAND destroying pricing.

Gumbi

Anyone here ever use Razer Synapse tool on Win 10? Trying to sort out an issue for someone remotely. Stopped working randomly. Wouldn't open. Circle would appear for 2 seconds then disappear.

Reinstalls and all that failed apparently (haven't confirmed myself yet). It may well possibly be the case that the app was starting minimised and they weren't seeing it, but if anyone has run into this issue and has some tips it would be helpful to have as troubleshooting ammo when I tackle it.

Thanks much.

Mr Crispy

Anyone on X470 here? If so, what motherboard do you have, and how do you rate it?

SickBoy

Darch Nemesis wrote: »

Anyone on X470 here? If so, what motherboard do you have, and how do you rate it?

On ASUS Strix x470
Find it great, got good reviews.
On par with the Crosshair VII Hero performance wise but less bells and whistles.