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K.O.Kiki

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

People seem happy to still pay €70 or so for them I think, even though a new GT1030 2GB (GDDR5 model) is almost identical with newer features/lower power, etc!

Lu Tze wrote: »

Cheers, just checked out the prices for new GT1030s, they seem to be just under £70. I think ill update the add to €60

750Ti outperforms GT 1030.

Robert ninja

Watched this today. Great history of Nvidia by adored tv.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0L3OTZ13Os

TerrorFirmer

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

750Ti outperforms GT 1030.

Well I said almost identical, there's about 10% between them, and at this point you wouldn't be buying either to play AAA titles, more stuff like Fortnite, Overwatch, DOTA, etc at high settings.

Given the GT1030 uses half the power, has newer features, etc, I'd take a new one with warranty over a used 750Ti for the same price.

z0oT

A preview of an MSI X399 Motherboard for Threadripper 2 at Computex. It's got one hell of an amount of phases in the power delievery. Something like 250W to 300W seems to be what people are thinking it'll end up at.


Given that, I'd imagine the non-turbo clk speed is at least around 3GHz. 32 cores at 3GHz with a turbo of 4GHz would certainly be interesting.

savemejebus

Curious as to what do you guys and gals think a fair price for this HTPC would be?

I5 2500
Be quiet modular 430w psu
MSI m-atx board
8gb ddr3 ram
Scythe big shuriken cpu cooler
Silverstone Grandia GD09 HTPC case
Dvbsky dual dub-s tuner card
128gb ssd
1tb hdd
Genuine win 8.1 or 10
R5450 passive gfx

Xenoronin

savemejebus wrote: »

Curious as to what do you guys and gals think a fair price for this HTPC would be?

I5 2500
Be quiet modular 430w psu
MSI m-atx board
8gb ddr3 ram
Scythe big shuriken cpu cooler
Silverstone Grandia GD09 HTPC case
Dvbsky dual dub-s tuner card
128gb ssd
1tb hdd
Genuine win 8.1 or 10
R5450 passive gfx

Probably around 300-400€ range.

TerrorFirmer

I think in the current market you'd find it impossible to get that. The 2nd hand market has slowed down dramatically over the past 12 months (aside from the GPU craze) and prices on 2nd hands parts and machines have dropped hugely.

I'd say you will find it hard to get about €250 for that one. It's a great time to be a buyer but not so much a seller. I've seen a few 4th gen i5 based machines with GTX970's go for €400-450 recently, and 3rd gen i5/i7 and GTX960 (ish) class machines going for as little as €250-300.

cherryghost

So my Maplin PC is up and running after a nightmare month of RMA'ing. The GPU failed and Maplin refuse to take in to repair/refund/exchange. After back and forth with Asus they agreed to replace it so I have it up and running since last week!

i5 6400
8gb DDR4
GTX 1060 3GB
120GB SATA, 3TB + 1TB HDD
Corsair VS 450W

All in, about 150 euro total (the PSU, Case, SATA were purchased from Amazon, I had 3TB drive spare). Running Plex, Deluge, Apache, and Steam Big Picture now. I used Steam ROM manager via mostly Retroarch to add about 200/300 ROMs off NES/SNES/Genesis/PSX/N64/GC/PS2/Wii/Wii U/PS3 games to BP, all with their own customized steam tiles. Looks and plays great! Been playing Witcher 3, Forza Horizon 3, FIFA 18, BF1 on my TV downstairs while the wife streams via plex without any issues. I have a 1gbps LAN plug running to the router in the other room to keep up with bandwidth demand.

Nibs05

Having a bit of frustration with a second hand GTX1070

TerrorFirmer

A bit? That's like saying you're having a bit of trouble with a new car because it's pulled over on the hard shoulder....in flames.

Nibs05

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

A bit? That's like saying you're having a bit of trouble with a new car because it's pulled over on the hard shoulder....in flames.

Lol, lesson learned, don’t buy from CEX, returning tomorrow. Unless it’s my PC giving up the ghost.

Cuddlesworth

Nibs05 wrote: »

Lol, lesson learned, don’t buy from CEX, returning tomorrow. Unless it’s my PC giving up the ghost.

That's artifacting, its dead.

MiskyBoyy

Nibs05 wrote:

Lol, lesson learned, don’t buy from CEX, returning tomorrow. Unless it’s my PC giving up the ghost.

CeX are normally grand tho. Whenever I've sold anything to them, they test it extensively.

Weird in this case.

TerrorFirmer

MiskyBoyy wrote: »

CeX are normally grand tho. Whenever I've sold anything to them, they test it extensively.

Weird in this case.

They don't though.

Graphics card aren't too bad, they do stress test those in fairness, but very randomly. I had a guy tell me before my card failed. Surprising, considering I'd been using it daily with no issues.

"Why'd it fail?"
"It overheated"
"Really? Oh, damn, it was always fine. What happened?"
"It went above 75 degrees"
"But...that's completely normal for any card"
"No, sorry, it overheated".
"But it worked fine"
"Except it overheated"

Other examples include a guy who I returned faulty ram to, and he - no joke - sniffed it like a piece of food.

"Strange, doesn't smell faulty".

Wish that was a joke. But apart from cards, they do not test RAM, CPUs, HDDs or SSDs, they just take them in.

I buy a fair few CPU's off them, and again they don't test those. Now, to be fair - they are good for no quibbles returns. Having said that I have received:

DDR3/DDR4 ram that was actually ECC ram.

An i7 that was actually a Pentium in an i7 box.

Several processors that are actually warped, so bent that a quick test under light shows a curve.

Processors with rust stains on them.

HDD's that are stone dead.

Don't get me wrong - they can often have decent prices, they give a 2 year warranty that's pretty no quibble.

But they test almost nothing, and it's frustrating as hell unless you have a local store that you can easily return stuff to. Thankfully, there's one 5 minutes from me.

MiskyBoyy

The Waterford & Wexford stores must overly test **** then

MiskyBoyy

TerrorFirmer wrote:

"Strange, doesn't smell faulty".

TerrorFirmer wrote:

Other examples include a guy who I returned faulty ram to, and he - no joke - sniffed it like a piece of food.

That's pretty funny in fairness lol

Nibs05

Well I traded my 1060 for the 1070 because I’m going 1440p and got a deal on a new Gsync Dell monitor, hopefully they will refund me and I can move on and get something else.

TerrorFirmer

Nibs05 wrote: »

Well I traded my 1060 for the 1070 because I’m going 1440p and got a deal on a new Gsync Dell monitor, hopefully they will refund me and I can move on and get something else.

Ah they will. To be fair, I buy from them expecting the worst, and even though it's 50/50 on anything outside graphics card, they do refund without question.

So if you've a local store near you, it is a risk worth taking. At the moment their GPU prices are a bit crap because they haven't responded to the drop in GPU prices due to the mining craze.

About 18 months ago, their prices were basically 30% off market price with a 2 year warranty.

Now, they're pretty much 30% above market price.

Nibs05

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Ah they will. To be fair, I buy from them expecting the worst, and even though it's 50/50 on anything outside graphics card, they do refund without question.

So if you've a local store near you, it is a risk worth taking. At the moment their GPU prices are a bit crap because they haven't responded to the drop in GPU prices due to the mining craze.

About 18 months ago, their prices were basically 30% off market price with a 2 year warranty.

Now, they're pretty much 30% above market price.

Great stuff, thanks !

Sonics2k

PC has been running very slowly lately, long time to boot up and games can take an age. Decided to just do a restart of the whole system, delete the lot.

It's on 9%. It's been on 9% since 9.30am

****e

wotzgoingon

Sonics2k wrote: »

PC has been running very slowly lately, long time to boot up and games can take an age. Decided to just do a restart of the whole system, delete the lot.

It's on 9%. It's been on 9% since 9.30am

****e

Stop it and start again. Have you a installation CD or flash drive?

Sonics2k

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Stop it and start again. Have you a installation CD or flash drive?

Just restarted it there, tried to run it again but got the "there was a problem resetting your pc" error.

I'll give it another shot tonight.

I don't have it on a Flash drive, I'll possibly get it downloaded today.

wotzgoingon

Sonics2k wrote: »

Just restarted it there, tried to run it again but got the "there was a problem resetting your pc" error.

I'll give it another shot tonight.

I don't have it on a Flash drive, I'll possibly get it downloaded today.

I understand what you were doing now and a fresh install from a installation CD or flash drive is far better than the way you were doing it.

Sonics2k

wotzgoingon wrote: »

I understand what you were doing now and a fresh install from a installation CD or flash drive is far better than the way you were doing it.

Aye. It's a bit sad that doing it the 'automatic' way directly from the Windows Settings can be more hassle than doing it the long way.

All done and dusted now anyway. Running as smooth as the day I got her.

Cuddlesworth

Sonics2k wrote: »

Aye. It's a bit sad that doing it the 'automatic' way directly from the Windows Settings can be more hassle than doing it the long way.

All done and dusted now anyway. Running as smooth as the day I got her.

If your having issues with a running PC, go to reinstall it and run into issues, its a pretty good bet you have a underlying hardware issue. Have you done a proper check of your memory?

Gehad_JoyRider

Small rooms and overclocked CPU's do not mix.

MiskyBoyy

Gehad_JoyRider wrote:

Small rooms and overclocked CPU's do not mix.

Especially in summer eh

TerrorFirmer

MiskyBoyy wrote: »

Especially in summer eh

Imagine having something like an FX-9590 in this weather.

Uses about triple the power an older i7 and performs similar to a 4th gen i3 in a lot of games.....it runs so hot AMD say not to use it with an air cooler.

Gehad_JoyRider

MiskyBoyy wrote: »

Especially in summer eh

I was that warm i tuck my short of, my wife walked in and was like. What are you doing? :pac:

I've got the phanteks evlov tg, so I tuck the panels to get some more cooling:rolleyes:.

Can't find a metal works that will mod the front and top pannel

K.O.Kiki

Gehad_JoyRider wrote: »

I was that warm i tuck my short of, my wife walked in and was like. What are you doing? :pac:

I've got the phanteks evlov tg, so I tuck the panels to get some more cooling:rolleyes:.

Can't find a metal works that will mod the front and top pannel

The Evolv uses 3mm aluminium so should be easy enough to mod yourself with a drill.

Redfox25

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

The Evolv uses 3mm aluminium so should be easy enough to mod yourself with a drill.

I was thinking hacksaw blade but a drill or Dremel would be a good tool for this job too.

K.O.Kiki

Redfox25 wrote: »

I was thinking hacksaw blade but a drill or Dremel would be a good tool for this job too.

This guy modded it himself:
https://medium.com/@rodrigoatprism/modding-the-phanteks-enthoo-evolv-atx-case-for-air-flow-5aec40fe0793

Gehad_JoyRider

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

This guy modded it himself:
https://medium.com/@rodrigoatprism/modding-the-phanteks-enthoo-evolv-atx-case-for-air-flow-5aec40fe0793

YOU LEGEND!


Sorry you deserve the capitals


Tho I have to find a water jet cutting company to cut it Should be interesting :pac:

wheresmahbombs

Looks like there's another CPU flaw called TLBleed.

This affects CPUs with Hyper-Threading in particular. AMD's Ryzen processors with SMT may also be vulnerable to the CPU flaw.

Intel refuses to do anything about it.

Cuddlesworth

wheresmahbombs wrote: »

Looks like there's another CPU flaw called TLBleed.

This affects CPUs with Hyper-Threading in particular. AMD's Ryzen processors with SMT may also be vulnerable to the CPU flaw.

Intel refuses to do anything about it.

Because its doesn't seem feasible to exploit in the real world? I'd be curious to see what other researchers have to say now its out.

Venom

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

This guy modded it himself:
https://medium.com/@rodrigoatprism/modding-the-phanteks-enthoo-evolv-atx-case-for-air-flow-5aec40fe0793

The lack of airflow was the one thing that always stopped me picking up an Evolv case. Thankfully the new Evolv X solves that issue

savemejebus

Venom wrote: »

The lack of airflow was the one thing that always stopped me picking up an Evolv case. Thankfully the new Evolv X solves that issue

Loving the idea of the mini itx mount in the roof too, not sure what use I’d have for it but me wants ...

£200 though. Ouch!!

Venom

Deleted User wrote: »

£200 though. Ouch!!

It's not cheap but a lot of smart design choices and premium materials went into it.

Cuddlesworth

Deleted User wrote: »

£200 though. Ouch!!

In terms of PC components, decent cases last the longest time and present the most value. My mate has my Cosmos S from 2008, my brother a Antec P180 I bought in 2005. Both will last another decade if they want, with some replacement fans every couple of years.

But if you buy a cheap case it will fall to pieces, see any Thermaltake case from the 2000's.

Mr Crispy

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

In terms of PC components, decent cases last the longest time and present the most value. My mate has my Cosmos S from 2008, my brother a Antec P180 I bought in 2005. Both will last another decade if they want, with some replacement fans every couple of years.

But if you buy a cheap case it will fall to pieces, see any Thermaltake case from the 2000's.

Definitely agree with this. Still using my Silverstone FT02 from 2010ish, and I can't see me changing it unless I desperately need to reclaim some of the space it takes up.

I used to have the Evolv ATX but it was just too big for the amount of space I have. Thermals were brutal though. Though that seems to have been addressed.

Venom

Darch Nemesis wrote: »

Definitely agree with this. Still using my Silverstone FT02 from 2010ish, and I can't see me changing it unless I desperately need to reclaim some of the space it takes up.

I'm still rocking my HAF 932 from back in the day when Coolermaster used to make good cases but have given up on them ever releasing a modern replacement.



I will never understand people who will put thousands worth of hardware into a cheap ass case

Mr Crispy

Venom wrote: »

I'm still rocking my HAF 932 from back in the day when Coolermaster used to make good cases but have given up on them ever releasing a modern replacement.



I will never understand people who will put thousands worth of hardware into a cheap ass case

The HAFs were beasts! Airflow behemoths. Agree about later CM cases, although the I did like the look of the SL600M at Computex. Sleek stylings, but looks like high airflow is back on the menu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtcyLYY9sB8

Venom

Darch Nemesis wrote: »

The HAFs were beasts! Airflow behemoths. Agree about later CM cases, although the I did like the look of the SL600M at Computex. Sleek stylings, but looks like high airflow is back on the menu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtcyLYY9sB8

Coolermaster used to make really great and interesting cases such as the Cosmos, Stacker and HAF lines to name just a few but these days with the Mastercase line, its just the exact same case with slightly different panels. When you look at the offerings from Phanteks, Corsair and Fractal ranging from budget to top-tier levels, Coolermaster is so far behind in both quality and innovation it's not even close.

K.O.Kiki

I love my Coolermaster MasterCase Pro 3

EoinHef

I have a HAF 912 since 2013,its looking a little worse for ware at this point. Temps are great though.

Be replacing it with a NZXT Source 340 this year along with a few other upgrades.

€200 cases are just not for me,i find i can usually get something id be happy with for ~€100

K.O.Kiki

Meanwhile at the Coolermaster offices...

GHOST MGG

Im still rocking my behemoth CM case

z0oT

I had a Coolermaster Stacker 830 once, and while it was easy to work with, there was just so much wasted space the thing was huge!

It just irks me how like 30-40% of the case these days is empty space, and it's so hard to find something compact given that nobody is making them. My Fractal Define S Nano could easily fit a MicroATX board with more efficient use of space. More space is good for big ass radiators if you're watercooling but I've zero interest in that.

I always though something like the Silverstone SG10B is ideal, it's about the same size as some ITX cases but yet it can fit MicroATX. Having the PSU under the motherboard was always a waste of space in my eye. (Although if it is better for airflow)

/grumbling