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TerrorFirmer

yoshiktk wrote: »

Loads of ads like that... Almost feel sorry for people buying them.
He did mention in comment that he bought it year or so ago for 600€. Someone made a great deal then.
So who want to buy gaming monster with I5 2500k for 1000€?

Imagine having the brass neck to sell that to someone for €650 as a gaming pc. There are some real scummy people out there.

The seller knows it's worth about €20, but it's clear from his ad that he'd sell it to someone else for €350 in a heartbeat.

At least with a 1K 2500K build, ludicrious as that is, even the most naive buyer could still actually play games at the very least.

Imagine trying to play modern games on that potato PC on adverts....single digit FPS.

Venom

:pac:

Redfox25 wrote: »

Relisted here, https://www.adverts.ie/desktops/office-computer/15806045

Real con that one.

The Cooler Master V1200 1200W ATX Black power PSU sure jumps out in that ad considering how crap everything else is



Edited due to his comment history

"@xxxxxx Well you are completely wrong. Please add up and calculate parts before commenting and GPU prices have rose really high because of crypto currency and trust me this is 100% worth the price"

OMG, he thinks a 10-year-old GPU's price has been affected by the Bitcoin mining craze :pac:


"@xxxxxxx I am not sure my friend I have never gotten call of duty ww2 I wish I had it so I can tell you on what FPS average it will run. The only game that was on the computer was minecraft because my son is a massive minecraft fan boy"

yoshiktk

Venom wrote: »

:pac:


The Cooler Master V1200 1200W ATX Black power PSU sure jumps out in that ad considering how crap everything else is



Edited due to his comment history

"@xxxxxx Well you are completely wrong. Please add up and calculate parts before commenting and GPU prices have rose really high because of crypto currency and trust me this is 100% worth the price"

OMG, he thinks a 10-year-old GPU's price has been affected by the Bitcoin mining craze :pac:


"@xxxxxxx I am not sure my friend I have never gotten call of duty ww2 I wish I had it so I can tell you on what FPS average it will run. The only game that was on the computer was minecraft because my son is a massive minecraft fan boy"

He is just blinded by the fact how much he spend on it and how much he wants to get back.
That's why I prefer ebay, it is not perfect but less overpriced junk to look thru.
Still we arent in bad situation, friend of mine mowed to New Zealand. Cries everyday on whatsapp how much he need to pay for shipment.

PopePalpatine

jonski wrote: »

Is it a good time/bad time to buy SSD drives ?

The 500GB Samsung 860 has nearly halved its price since January, sounds like a damn good time to me.

Skerries

yoshiktk wrote: »

friend of mine mowed to New Zealand.

I'd say that took a while

ancapailldorcha

Redfox25 wrote: »

Hi
Had that issue a few times, it crashes and then hides. Restarting seems to fix the issue.

It had an error after installing and update and disappeared after restarting.

On the flip side, my blinking problem has gone because I disabled FreeSync.

Cuddlesworth

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Imagine having the brass neck to sell that to someone for €650 as a gaming pc. There are some real scummy people out there.

The seller knows it's worth about €20, but it's clear from his ad that he'd sell it to someone else for €350 in a heartbeat.

At least with a 1K 2500K build, ludicrious as that is, even the most naive buyer could still actually play games at the very least.

Imagine trying to play modern games on that potato PC on adverts....single digit FPS.

There is always some sucker who will buy it at that price. He just needs to wait them out. Donedeal would be the better option.

Venom

Amazon Prime day haul which came from Overclockers due to them being 50 notes cheaper

EoinHef

Dont see any image there now....

wotzgoingon

EoinHef wrote: »

Dont see any image there now....

I can't see it either.

EoinHef

wotzgoingon wrote: »

I can't see it either.

Im picking up a few bits soon,was just curious to see did i miss any major discounts.

Im probably better off not knowing but im a glutton for punishment!

The image was showing at one stage. As far as i remember it was a Ryzen 7 and a Maximus MB.

Venom

EoinHef wrote: »

Im picking up a few bits soon,was just curious to see did i miss any major discounts.

Im probably better off not knowing but im a glutton for punishment!

Didn't see any bargains on Prime Day for the items I was looking for and I went over every combo of CPU, mobo, ram and CPU cooler. In the end, Overclockers were almost the best part of £50 cheaper and with next day delivery.



No idea why the image's not showing up but it was a 2700X + Crosshair VII and some sweeties.

I think Amazon US fared better on PC stuff.

jebidiah

Too good to be true?

€295 for a 1070?

https://www.adverts.ie/graphics-cards/asus-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-rog-strix-oc-edition/15855883

yoshiktk

jebidiah wrote: »

Too good to be true?

€295 for a 1070?

https://www.adverts.ie/graphics-cards/asus-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-rog-strix-oc-edition/15855883

1060 for €225
Same guy, maybe its ok.
There's a second ad on the same card with few comments, go thru them.
Second ad

Cuddlesworth

Images are original, also don't see how a 1070 2nd hand for circa 300 is a scam price, its 75% of a new card.

EoinHef

Venom wrote: »

Didn't see any bargains on Prime Day for the items I was looking for and I went over every combo of CPU, mobo, ram and CPU cooler. In the end, Overclockers were almost the best part of £50 cheaper and with next day delivery.



No idea why the image's not showing up but it was a 2700X + Crosshair VII and some sweeties.

Strange,ive been looking at similar lately and amazons been cheaper. Must run everything thing through OCUK before buying.

Gratz on the purchase man

Venom

EoinHef wrote: »

Strange,ive been looking at similar lately and amazons been cheaper. Must run everything thing through OCUK before buying.

Gratz on the purchase man

Cheers, just need the ram now and then its PC building time



I was under the same impression about Amazon but on the day putting both sets of prices into the currency converter netted the savings in black and white.

EoinHef

Venom wrote: »

Cheers, just need the ram now and then its PC building time



I was under the same impression about Amazon but on the day putting both sets of prices into the currency converter netted the savings in black and white.

Ill have to remember to check on the day.

Been looking at Ram for Ryzen myself,definitely a bit more involved than just throwing anything at it like you could with Intel.

The CL14 modules are so expensive,probably gonna end up with a 2933Mhz CL15 kit.

Ive seen the kit ive been eyeing tested with the board im looking at so least i know the profiles should work out of the box so it will run at its rated speed.

Venom

EoinHef wrote: »

Ill have to remember to check on the day.

Been looking at Ram for Ryzen myself,definitely a bit more involved than just throwing anything at it like you could with Intel.

The CL14 modules are so expensive,probably gonna end up with a 2933Mhz CL15 kit.

Ive seen the kit ive been eyeing tested with the board im looking at so least i know the profiles should work out of the box so it will run at its rated speed.

Yeah, the ram situation with Ryzen can be a right head scratcher but at least with the 2000 series chips, there's a much better range of options to pick from. The price of the stuff on the other hand just plain hurts.



At the moment its a toss up between Gskill Flare X 3200mhz cl14 and Sniper X 3400mhz cl16.

EoinHef

Venom wrote: »

Yeah, the ram situation with Ryzen can be a right head scratcher but at least with the 2000 series chips, there's a much better range of options to pick from. The price of the stuff on the other hand just plain hurts.



At the moment its a toss up between Gskill Flare X 3200mhz cl14 and Sniper X 3400mhz cl16.

Ive decided i want RGB dimms as im a little sad so thats limited me even more. The Gskill trident z is lovely looking but compatibility looks spotty so its probably gonna be a Hyper X Predator rgb.

I think that Flare X kit is what AMD recomend to reviewers,should be optimum.

Venom

The Hyper X Predator RGB looks the business but to me its just extra cost on an already expensive component. I'm planing on replacing the stock CPU cooler with a Noctua D15 when the all-black version comes out at the end of the year, which will pretty much block out any RBGness from the ram.

EoinHef

Venom wrote: »

The Hyper X Predator RGB looks the business but to me its just extra cost on an already expensive component. I'm planing on replacing the stock CPU cooler with a Noctua D15 when the all-black version comes out at the end of the year, which will pretty much block out any RBGness from the ram.

Its totally non essential but i got a bonus in work for something thats taken me 3 years to get through so im kinda just really treating myself here. Potential wedding next year with little uns to follow so it may be my last chance!!

Also the 16gb kits costs £188,which is actually not bad looking at the price of other kits.

I wasnt to keen on noctua because of the fan colour either and was going to go cryorig r1 ultimate but getting cryorig to send you an AM4 bracket is problematic from what i read online. So ive kinda settled on the noctua nh-d15s,at least the fan is hidden in the middle of the two towers and the fins have a cut out to better increase ram compatibility. Also temps are good from what i see online so sounds like an ok compromise for me. Needs be ill get a chromax fan down the road to replace it.

Venom

EoinHef wrote: »

Its totally non essential but i got a bonus in work for something thats taken me 3 years to get through so im kinda just really treating myself here. Potential wedding next year with little uns to follow so it may be my last chance!!

Also the 16gb kits costs £188,which is actually not bad looking at the price of other kits.

I wasn't to keen on noctua because of the fan colour either and was going to go cryorig r1 ultimate but getting cryorig to send you an AM4 bracket is problematic from what i read online. So ive kinda settled on the noctua nh-d15s,at least the fan is hidden in the middle of the two towers and the fins have a cut out to better increase ram compatibility. Also temps are good from what i see online so sounds like an ok compromise for me. Needs be ill get a chromax fan down the road to replace it.

I was flip-flopping between the d15 and the d15s myself but then found out that the PCI slots on the Crosshair VII are a tad lower compared to other mobo's, so cooler interference with the GPU should not be an issue. Seeing the price is pretty much the same between both coolers, yet one comes with an extra fan, the d15 se won out.


I plan on getting replacing the default brown fans like yourself and since I want to move the system into an Evolve X case later in the year, being able to repurpose said fans as the front intake where they won't be seen, seems like a win-win solution.


The Chromax cooler covers look the business so might go for them instead

EoinHef

Venom wrote: »

I was flip-flopping between the d15 and the d15s myself but then found out that the PCI slots on the Crosshair VII are a tad lower compared to other mobo's, so cooler interference with the GPU should not be an issue. Seeing the price is pretty much the same between both coolers, yet one comes with an extra fan, the d15 se won out.


I plan on getting replacing the default brown fans like yourself and since I want to move the system into an Evolve X case later in the year, being able to repurpose said fans as the front intake where they won't be seen, seems like a win-win solution.


The Chromax cooler covers look the business so might go for them instead

Unbelievable really that they are only now giving the option of black fans.

The covers are beautiful alright,perfect match of form and function.

Im going with the meshify c,im going to get a 3pack of rgb fans for rear and top exhaust x2. That will allow me to use the stock case fans as intakes where there out of the way a bit like yourself. Tinted tempered glass should make them near invisible anyway. 5 x 120mm should give plenty of good airflow.

Just checked the noctua compatibilty page and the mainboard im looking at is also ok with the d15se. Maybe i should just get it and keep the extra fan as a spare. Ive also 3 corsair SP fans coming with me from my current case and nowhere for them to go!!

Nice to have spares though i suppose,there not cheap so certainly wont be throwing them out.

Excited to get a new build going,been nearly 6 years since i bought my current case,cpu etc. Few GPU upgrades in that time but its time the major internals got an update.

K.O.Kiki

Finally got all the parts needed to watercool the 980 Ti.


Seems to be running stable at 1566MHz (+200 core) with temps around 49C - I think with the Palit dual-fan triple-slot cooler, it would hit 78C easily.

Noctua NF-P12 Redux-1700 fan on a 120mm AIO, so even at 1000rpm it's barely audible.
Pics at the weekend.

TerrorFirmer

I haven't treated myself to anything in awhile, I only play Overwatch these days so mad hardware no longer needed (even back to using a standard 25" 1080p monitor)....but I really want to get the Thermaltake View 71.

In other news, just when I thought offers couldn't possibly get any stupider or the bar raised any lower....someone messaged me about an i5/GTX1050 gaming PC. Asking would I consider giving it away for free because they can't afford a PC but really want one.

Venom

EoinHef wrote: »

Unbelievable really that they are only now giving the option of black fans.

The covers are beautiful alright,perfect match of form and function.

Im going with the meshify c,im going to get a 3pack of rgb fans for rear and top exhaust x2. That will allow me to use the stock case fans as intakes where there out of the way a bit like yourself. Tinted tempered glass should make them near invisible anyway. 5 x 120mm should give plenty of good airflow.

Just checked the noctua compatibilty page and the mainboard im looking at is also ok with the d15se. Maybe i should just get it and keep the extra fan as a spare. Ive also 3 corsair SP fans coming with me from my current case and nowhere for them to go!!

Nice to have spares though i suppose,there not cheap so certainly won't be throwing them out.

Excited to get a new build going,been nearly 6 years since i bought my current case,cpu etc. Few GPU upgrades in that time but its time the major internals got an update.

I recall an interview with some of the Noctua folks, where they went into detail about why they're so slow in releasing new stuff and non-brown fans. Basically, it boiled down to the product having to be 100% perfect in their eyes and the fan colour is due to the weird plastics they make the fan blades out of not working as well when coated black.



If you don't get the SE version of the d15, you will need to buy or contact Noctua for an AM4 mounting kit as it's not included in the box. The downside is you don't get the Intel brackets with the SE if ever needed down the line

EoinHef

Venom wrote: »

I recall an interview with some of the Noctua folks, where they went into detail about why they're so slow in releasing new stuff and non-brown fans. Basically, it boiled down to the product having to be 100% perfect in their eyes and the fan colour is due to the weird plastics they make the fan blades out of not working as well when coated black.



If you don't get the SE version of the d15, you will need to buy or contact Noctua for an AM4 mounting kit as it's not included in the box. The downside is you don't get the Intel brackets with the SE if ever needed down the line

There always at the top of performance graphs so whatever there way of thinking is it works performance wise.

I wouldnt mimd having to contact Noctua for the bracket,picture of the reciept and they will send it staright away i hear.

Pity cryorig are slow at it,it lost them a sale!!! I like the look of the R1 Ultimate but im not gonna wait months for a bracket!!

Lu Tze

The new Nvidia cards apparently pencilled in to launch at the end of August. Be interesting to see prices, and prices for clearance of to 10xx series.


https://www.techpowerup.com/246207/nvidia-geforce-11-series-first-wave-launch-dates-leaked

K.O.Kiki

I feel so dumb.
Turns out at some point, I'd reset the CPU/RAM back to default speeds (3.3GHz / 2133MHz).
Was up til 4am trying to remember my daily-driver OC settings (125 multiplier / 33x (4.15GHz) / 3000MHz @ 1.115V).

Have to do a longer stress test tonight to doublecheck it.

yoshiktk

Lu Tze wrote: »

The new Nvidia cards apparently pencilled in to launch at the end of August. Be interesting to see prices, and prices for clearance of to 10xx series.


https://www.techpowerup.com/246207/nvidia-geforce-11-series-first-wave-launch-dates-leaked

Any idea how much the current gen. 10xx could go down after the launch of 11xx? I'm tempted to buy Zotac Amp 1060, just dont want to spend now 270€ just to see the card for 200€ in next month.

Lu Tze

yoshiktk wrote: »

Any idea how much the current gen. 10xx could go down after the launch of 11xx? I'm tempted to buy Zotac Amp 1060, just dont want to spend now 270€ just to see the card for 200€ in next month.

No idea, I would guess it depends how much stock is left and the new series pricing. Given there is very little competition for them, could see a jump in pricing for the new series, and no large drop in the current cards pricing, even if there is still a lot of stock available.

Just have to wait and see. The date in the article is 30th August, so more like start of September.

K.O.Kiki

yoshiktk wrote: »

Any idea how much the current gen. 10xx could go down after the launch of 11xx? I'm tempted to buy Zotac Amp 1060, just dont want to spend now 270€ just to see the card for 200€ in next month.

If you need a gaming card right now, I'd just go ahead & buy that card now (if you have the space, this Palit Jetstream is arguably a better card though).

By the time the next generation comes out, you'll have played your games enough to know if you actually need another upgrade.

RossieMan

Jesus some of the ads in the selling pc gear on here would want their heads checked. Mental pricing.

TerrorFirmer

RossieMan wrote: »

Jesus some of the ads in the selling pc gear on here would want their heads checked. Mental pricing.

Is that the 3770 PC with a GTX660 for €700?

You would be lucky to get €350 for that.

RossieMan

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Is that the 3770 PC with a GTX660 for €700?

You would be lucky to get €350 for that.

yea. didnt want to mention the post, but the guy is obviously out of the game for a while and thinks people are fools. I wouildn't give 250 for it, its old tech at this stage.

TerrorFirmer

RossieMan wrote: »

yea. didnt want to mention the post, but the guy is obviously out of the game for a while and thinks people are fools. I wouildn't give 250 for it, its old tech at this stage.

It's a great base to lob a GTX1070 into, but yes, at half the asking or else.

As it is, €700 new would buy you a machine that'd be 200% faster in games at least.

I mean for example I've a machine up there for an i7-6700, DDR4, GTX1070Ti for €150 more than the asking.

yoshiktk

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

If you need a gaming card right now, I'd just go ahead & buy that card now (if you have the space, this Palit Jetstream is arguably a better card though).

By the time the next generation comes out, you'll have played your games enough to know if you actually need another upgrade.

I'm waiting from December so one or two months won't make me a big difference. Ill just wait and see, maybe then could stretch out budget for 1070 instead.
I miss being a single. New card? No problem. More ram? Go for double the amount, and now?
-Honey, can I buy?
-Do we need it now?
I feel like hyena, just lurking around for some leftovers...

BTW is there any shop in Dublin which have cases on shelf? Can't decide between Meshify C and R6. I've watched few youtube vids, but still don't know which to choose, would like to check them with my own eyes.

jebidiah

Can anyone recommend a decent set of desk speakers?

I had my eye on the Logitech Z337 looks nice, not too expensive, bluetooth and a little volume wheel.

But they might be a bit over kill with the subwoofer and all that so I was also considering the Creative t15 which seem a bit more neat and tidy.

Any thoughts?

jonski

What the general thoughts on Optane these days ?

eddieb88

jebidiah wrote: »

Can anyone recommend a decent set of desk speakers?

I had my eye on the Logitech Z337 looks nice, not too expensive, bluetooth and a little volume wheel.

But they might be a bit over kill with the subwoofer and all that so I was also considering the Creative t15 which seem a bit more neat and tidy.

Any thoughts?

Ive ordered These a few days ago il let you know what there like,

ED E

WD: We're shutting down HDD plants as they're no longer in demand.

Also WD:


Prices are barely changed sine I bought the original bunch 5yrs ago. Can you say price fixing...

BloodBath

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Is that the 3770 PC with a GTX660 for €700?

You would be lucky to get €350 for that.

A Ryzen 2200g would be comparable to that in performance with decent memory and an overclock on a much newer platform with a good upgrade path and ddr4.

You can build a good 2200g system for €400 new with a 120gb ssd and a 1tb hdd and a decent cooler for overclocking it. I want to build 1 just to play around with the 2200g. Seems to be an amazing chip for the money.

Something like this.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£79.95 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC - Freezer 13 36.4 CFM CPU Cooler (£24.69 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£61.98 @ PC World Business)
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£80.28 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£24.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£32.39 @ Aria PC)
Case: CiT - CIT-F3WHITEBLACK MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£25.99 @ AWD-IT)
Power Supply: XFX - XT 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£35.93 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £366.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-29 17:28 BST+0100

Cuddlesworth

ED E wrote: »

Prices are barely changed sine I bought the original bunch 5yrs ago. Can you say price fixing...

Possibly but its very old tech, I would doubt there is much more efficiency to be had in the production process, the cost of base materials have undoubtedly risen over the years too. And to top it off, its not a growth market.

K.O.Kiki

This drought of new parts is killing me!

I mean, I'm not going to buy anything but I just want to read about new hardware already!

ED E

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Possibly but its very old tech, I would doubt there is much more efficiency to be had in the production process, the cost of base materials have undoubtedly risen over the years too. And to top it off, its not a growth market.

As they improved tech to get 8TB (pre helium) disks to viable yields the viable % of 3TB densities should have sky rocketed. Thats a big saving.

K.O.Kiki

Meanwhile over at Gamers Nexus

TerrorFirmer

OCUK have a decent deal for £510 - 2700X, X370 K7, 8GB 3200mhz, 480GB SSD. Just bought one there. Cheaper than buying stuff seperately on Amazon and their service/delivery times are way better.

Usually an Intel man but I think AMD deserve some recognition, this will be my first AMD build since an FX-6300 which I ditched pretty soon after I got it.