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eating meat is eating a corpse"

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭Pablodreamsofnew


    Lets take a bite out of them so. Save the animals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    Sister is a vegetarian and a chef so she knows how to make extremely tasty vegetarian dishes. You really would not miss the meat when having dinner at her house.
    I'm not a big fan of cooked meats, I prefer fish tbh. Although, dining al fresco in Italy, eating carpaccio of beef, washed down with copious amounts of red wine is my idea of heaven.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    I am all for pushing for better treatment of animals and livestock, but Jesus PETA, we're omnivores. For the rest of your days we'll be eating meat.

    As long as it has a good life and is killed in the most humane way there is, it's fine by me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭takamichinoku


    Any time I hear PETA being mentioned I think to myself that there must be someone laughing their way to the bank in there cos I can imagine their kind of campaigning getting quite a bit of money but I can't imagine it being able to sustain itself with such a major presence if it was ran entirely by nutjobs.



    Don't at all get the anti-vegan/vegetarian/animal rights stuff that seems to come up whenever they're mentioned though. Surely everyone can acknowledge at this stage that they're not really representative of all the people aligned to those lifestyles/causes?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Ranchu


    PETA have always operated a policy of all publicity is good publicity and it works well for them. You're all playing right into their hands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,067 ✭✭✭Gunmonkey


    Ted_YNWA wrote: »
    Vegetarians are pro-animal life, but yet encourage the eating of their foods..


    :confused:

    You think thats something, I wanna ask if PETA have a plan in place for if everyone did go vegan? Since all those animals they are saving are now taking up perfectly good crop growing land (since were gonna need a ****e ton more veggies). Do we shoo them off farmland into whatever wild lands we have to destroy the ecology there, or die miserable painful deaths in the case of dairy cows if they arent milked?

    Oh, but we can still eat fish, that doesnt count.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Lets take a bite out of them so. Save the animals.
    PETA people eating tasty meat :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭homerhop


    We have our own loons, who are every bit as nuts as PETA. Often protesting outside the dáil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭kikidelvin


    No more Pussy eating for me,Im pure veggie from now on.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭Hotfail.com


    Gunmonkey wrote: »
    You think thats something, I wanna ask if PETA have a plan in place for if everyone did go vegan? Since all those animals they are saving are now taking up perfectly good crop growing land (since were gonna need a ****e ton more veggies). Do we shoo them off farmland into whatever wild lands we have to destroy the ecology there, or die miserable painful deaths in the case of dairy cows if they arent milked?

    Oh, but we can still eat fish, that doesnt count.....

    I honestly believe they don't even care about animals, it's just a load of attention seeking shíte.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,895 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    Meat comes from animals? I never knew.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,532 ✭✭✭Lou.m


    realies wrote: »
    An animal rights group has said it is in negotiations to place a billboard ad in Dublin showing a human leg on a plate.

    People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) said the planned campaign comes as gardaí are investigating the discovery of human remains at a recycling plant in Dublin.

    In a press release, PETA said that "eating meat is eating a corpse" and urged people to take up a vegan lifestyle.

    PETA spokeswoman Yvonne McNulty-Taylor said: "Maybe this tragedy will cause people to think about where their meat comes from every time they sit down to eat."

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0807/635652-peta/

    I don't get these people at all, I am all for humane treatment of animals but they go to far, we all have to live a vegan lifestyle and eating meat is eating a corpse so they say.
    So next time your hungry pop down to the local cemetery, it be soul destroying.

    Seriously they need to get a life.

    They don't represent me. I don't eat meat. They seem to do more about shouting at humans than actually helping animals.

    I choose my lifestyle I respect peoples choices. There is a line for me animal cruelty you are a freak I can't deal with you. Fur nah you need to look at your priorities. It is a luxury item.

    I don't think all peta people are as hardcore. But a lot are quite frankly.


    Lots of people help at the DSPCA a lot of them also eat meat.


    I cannot stand by and say eating an animal equates to eating a human.

    I hope we would say cruelty to humans is far far worse than to animals.

    I don't eat em ...my heart says not to. Shrugs but my heart also says don't equate it to eating a person.

    I do think we need to at least collectively look at farming practices though. But mostly at the way we abuse animals in this country such as dog fighting etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,834 ✭✭✭Captain Flaps


    PETA are the worst kind of hypocrites. They really, truly don't give a **** about animals.

    Remember this story from last year? If not, give it a read.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,503 ✭✭✭Sinister Kid


    I was a veggie for 15 years... wouldn't go back. Meat is too delicious... mmmmm BBQ Ribs :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,196 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    LiveIsLife wrote: »
    If you ever have the misfortune to be dining out with a militant vegan who won't let you eat in peace, a good trick is to order 3 meat dishes, preferably from 3 different animals. That way you're not only cancelling out the meat they're not eating, but actually causing more meat to be consumed than if they kept their mouth shut.

    The only way I could ever possibly be said to be dining with a militant vegan would be if they were in a glass cage suspended above the table, entertaining me by flinging their own dung at each other.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    mad muffin wrote: »
    Vegans. We don't eat meat. Just food that looks like meat.

    What does that even mean? Do you know what you're talking about or did you just think you were just being cool saying that? For a start, in what way do vegetables look like meat? If you're referring to tofu, vegans (or vegetarians) do not eat it cos it "looks like meat", which it doesn't BTW. It is just another food product that happens to be made from soy.

    On the topic of PETA, I think their ad campaign is ridiculous. I'm all for preventing animal cruelty and I appreciate their message of "knowing where your food comes from" but the "meat is murder" thing is nonsense. Meat is a source of food. As long as the animals are treated well I've no problem.

    I eat meat maybe once or twice a week. For the most part I eat fish and have a vegetarian diet. Two years ago I was a 'meat 2/3 times a day' guy. I could never see myself going back to that but I do enjoy a quality steak or piece of pork every now and again. Sure, it costs more to buy quality but I know where the meat came from and what is in it. The cost is balanced out anyway since the rest of my diet is quite cheap in general.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Candie wrote: »
    Peta never fail to screw up their public relations.

    They just come across as extremist nutjobs that people don't want to be associated with.

    Which is probably due to the fact that PETA is mainly comprised of extremist nutjobs that people don't want to be associated with :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,834 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Its funny their campaign is aimed at farmed meat.. I'd expect that more pets/ponys are poorly treated than animals on farms.. Farmers have long since figured out that well cared for animals are productive animals so welfare on Irish farms is particularly good, of course there will be exceptions but in the main farmed animals are well cared for in this country..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,215 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Try and find Penn & Teller: Bullsh*t episode about Peta.

    Favourite bit is the when they pointed out how the Vice President of Peta at the time was diabetic and used insulin shots derived from animal products

    "I'm an insulin-dependent diabetic. Twice a day I take synthetically manufactured insulin that still contains some animal products -- and I have no qualms about it ... I'm not going to take the chance of killing myself by not taking insulin. I don't see myself as a hypocrite. I need my life to fight for the rights of animals."

    Translation: "Animals have to be killed so I can stay alive to fight for their right to not be killed!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    Double Qtr Pounder with cheese right now. Mmmmmmmm......

    There is more meat in ice cream to be fair


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭macplato


    Bacchus wrote: »
    What does that even mean? Do you know what you're talking about or did you just think you were just being cool saying that? For a start, in what way do vegetables look like meat? If you're referring to tofu, vegans (or vegetarians) do not eat it cos it "looks like meat", which it doesn't BTW. It is just another food product that happens to be made from soy.

    Ah, c'mon - he didn't mean vegetables that look like meat, just go to any health food store and look into the fridge or in the canned food section: sausages that look (and taste!) like pork sausages, bacon flavoured tofu, beef stew flavoured tofu, chicken liver pâté made of god knows what, "roast duck" made of tofu, that kind of stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,196 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    macplato wrote: »
    Ah, c'mon - he didn't mean vegetables that look like meat, just go to any health food store and look into the fridge or in the canned food section: sausages that look (and taste!) like pork sausages, bacon flavoured tofu, beef stew flavoured tofu, chicken liver pâté made of god knows what, "roast duck" made of tofu, that kind of stuff.

    What about Heston Blumenthal's bacon-and-egg ice-cream? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭macplato


    jimgoose wrote: »
    What about Heston Blumenthal's bacon-and-egg ice-cream? :D

    No, not yet - that means there's a nishe :eek: Jimgoose's bacon-flavoured-tofu-and-egg-flavoured-tofu-ice-cream-tofu-thingy. You should totally go for it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,196 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    macplato wrote: »
    No, not yet - that means there's a nishe :eek: Jimgoose's bacon-flavoured-tofu-and-egg-flavoured-tofu-ice-cream-tofu-thingy. You should totally go for it!

    Hmm. You speak wisely, Grasshopper - there's money to be made. Now, what did I do with that old leftover styrofoam... :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,132 ✭✭✭Just Like Heaven


    I'm a vegan, completely against all farming/hunting/keeping pets everything wish people would just leave animals alone as much as possible but I also hate PETA too.

    I hate everybody basically.

    /runs nude into the forest


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    Oh look, the Westboro Vegaterian Church. Whatever they say to do, the best this is not doing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    macplato wrote: »
    Ah, c'mon - he didn't mean vegetables that look like meat, just go to any health food store and look into the fridge or in the canned food section: sausages that look (and taste!) like pork sausages, bacon flavoured tofu, beef stew flavoured tofu, chicken liver pâté made of god knows what, "roast duck" made of tofu, that kind of stuff.

    Ok, I'll take that point. There are products out there that mimic meat. It was still sweeping statement to make by that poster. Those type of products have no appeal to me and to a lot of vegans/vegetarians.

    It's probably due my own bias due to having people assume that I'm at some sort of a loss without meat. Those meat substitute things are horrendous idea IMO. Either eat meat or don't. It doesn't have to be a big deal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭Reindeer


    I was.

    Warming is still denaturing.

    Most people that eat rare / raw steak with add pepper sauce or other form of flavouring also (including myself).

    You have to cook a piece of meat very well to remove all of the proteins from it. The denaturing thing is prattled on about endlessly. You will get plenty of protein from even a well done steak. Even fully and partially denatured protein is still useful for your body.
    Same with sushi / shashimi -- dipping sauces will be used.

    Very few people crave the taste of raw flesh and will feel satisfied chewing it cold, the way they would with a piece pf fruit for example.

    Cook them.

    In Ireland, probably. Where my Japanese mother came from? Not likely, and that's 100 million of them now. I enjoy meat raw or cooked, and am very fond of steak tare tare and sukiyake, and make them both often. I like my steaks seared on the outside and raw on the inside, with or without spices. I enjoy Sushi as well, with or without sauces. I also appreciate the subtle flavor of raw sesame seeds and salt with short grain asian rice. I also sometimes just eat a bowl of rice with sesame on it as a meal if I am prefer something light.

    I work in Animal rescue as a volunteer(sometimes up to 40 hours a week). I know how these sort of folks think. Some are good people just trying to help out. Some are quite extreme and anti-human, and appear to project their own personal inadequacies, failures, ignorance, and trauma into their work and onto others. They can be profoundly ignorant, too. I know at least three that are home schooled since childhood by someone whom was home schooled in the 60's, and do not even posses a rudimentary understanding of science and history. You almost can not hold any sort of a meaningful conversation with such a person at any level in regards to modern life. It's a will-full, blissful, ignorance. It is akin to religion, really. It's this sort of folk that can easily justify fringe activities like violence or equating animal life and human life.

    I think the issues most people have is the propaganda terrorism so many extremist purvey upon the populace. We get it - you guys like animals. Hey, I love my Greyhounds and think the racing industry can be absolutely cruel and exploitative. But I don't put photos of losing hounds hanging from trees on billboards(but I will tell you I have seen them myself). I don't expect others to turn to the Quran because I cry like a baby and lash out with violence when others don't agree with me. And, I don't think PETA will garner any love acting like idiots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Animal flesh doesn't taste nice. It's horrible.

    That's why we either heat it and / or flavour it: to make it palatable.

    I eat my steak rare, very rare. Yum.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,351 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    I really, really like eating animal corpses through. Had some incredible slow-cooked beef cheeks at the weekend and you know what? Cow's faces taste great!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,770 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    i feel sorry for the plants. they have feelings too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Tarzana


    Candie wrote: »
    Peta never fail to screw up their public relations.

    They're coming across exactly how they want to, I think. This is who they are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    These lads would probably still complain if you ate the animal while still alive, so you can't win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,739 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Animal flesh doesn't taste nice. It's horrible.

    That's why we either heat it and / or flavour it: to make it palatable.
    Raw meat does taste good. I've had raw fish, raw beef, and raw horse and they are all delicious. Especially the horse.

    The reason we cook it is for ease of cutting and to make the nutrients more digestible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Tarzana


    Animal flesh doesn't taste nice. It's horrible.

    That's why we either heat it and / or flavour it: to make it palatable.
    I was.

    Warming is still denaturing.

    Most people that eat rare / raw steak with add pepper sauce or other form of flavouring also (including myself).

    Same with sushi / shashimi -- dipping sauces will be used.

    Very few people crave the taste of raw flesh and will feel satisfied chewing it cold, the way they would with a piece pf fruit for example.

    Meat is as much about texture as it is about taste.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,351 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Dammit, now I'm craving some steak tartar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,671 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Candie wrote: »
    Peta never fail to screw up their public relations.

    except for the naked women. that's really good PR. you'd be amazed at the crap men will listen to if there's a pair of boobs involved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭nicki11


    If they thing meat is murder and hate it so much then why make a crappy version of our most sacred and delicious meat (pause in reverence) bacon


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,166 ✭✭✭Tasden


    nicki11 wrote: »
    If they thing meat is murder and hate it so much then why make a crappy version of our most sacred and delicious meat (pause in reverence) bacon

    Something that is not exactly nice to be eating for ethical reasons can still be tasty.

    I love chicken, love kfc gravy, love pepperoni- all those things taste amazing, but i still think its not nice to eat them because it was once a living thing and the idea of eating them is just gross to me now. If there was a substitute that tasted as good I'd eat them all day long. I don't see why people think that is so strange. The food itself is tasty, the fact it was alive once upon a time puts me off actually eating it, substitutes were never alive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Tarzana


    _Redzer_ wrote: »
    As long as it has a good life and is killed in the most humane way there is, it's fine by me.

    If you eat lamb or beef, you can be assured that if they were raised in this country they had a pretty nice life.

    Chicken and pig products? Not so much. And Ireland is one the better countries in this regard. :-/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Tarzana


    Ranchu wrote: »
    PETA have always operated a policy of all publicity is good publicity and it works well for them. You're all playing right into their hands.

    You're on this thread, so you are too. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭userod


    Why battle nature.

    Are they going to put their billboards up in the plains of Africa too so that maybe the Lions will starting eating grass instead?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    There on rte one liveline now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭nicki11


    Tasden wrote: »
    Something that is not exactly nice to be eating for ethical reasons can still be tasty.

    I love chicken, love kfc gravy, love pepperoni- all those things taste amazing, but i still think its not nice to eat them because it was once a living thing and the idea of eating them is just gross to me now. If there was a substitute that tasted as good I'd eat them all day long. I don't see why people think that is so strange. The food itself is tasty, the fact it was alive once upon a time puts me off actually eating it, substitutes were never alive.

    I only meant why inflict meat substitutes that are inferior in taste just to have it on yourself surely if you dislike meat for ethical reasons you won't want to still be associated with it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    PETA are the worst kind of hypocrites. They really, truly don't give a **** about animals.

    Remember this story from last year? If not, give it a read.


    Wjhen I hear the name PETA, I think of idiots who release invasive species that then decimate native wildlfe.

    Idiots like those involved with PETA are a big reason as to why species like mink have gotten a foothold in Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,166 ✭✭✭Tasden


    nicki11 wrote: »
    I only meant why inflict meat substitutes that are inferior in taste just to have it on yourself surely if you dislike meat for ethical reasons you won't want to still be associated with it

    People don't eat meat for many different reasons though. I just don't like eating it knowing its an animal, I think meat is tasty though I just cant eat it anymore without thinking about what it actually is, I don't have issues being "associated" with it or whatever, although I don't really understand what that means :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭Rachiee


    Of course its eating a corpse but its a different animal so we are less likely to catch something from it so its fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Some butchers group should have an ad "vegetables are grown in the dirty ground, sometimes even in cow shit, ewwww"


    Did peta think people don't know meat comes from animals or something? and felt a need to inform them, like the kelloggs campaign of "rice krispies are made of rice" a few years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Fuhrer


    Rachiee wrote: »
    Of course its eating a corpse but its a different animal so we are less likely to catch something from it so its fine.

    Yeah, dont wanna catch Kuru.


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